We’ve been had.
Since many religious leaders have freely expressed their opinions about Covid vaccine mandates, I too will be permitted to state my thoughts, at least as a private individual.
First, despite what the Bishop of Rome has mandated for his own jurisdiction and what some lesser bishops have required in their dioceses, the official teaching of the Catholic Church is that vaccines “must be voluntary” (the Vatican’s Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, Note on the morality of using some anti-Covid-19 vaccines, December 21, 2021).
The reason for this is that, in the case of the current vaccines, no compelling evidence exists that their effectiveness is proven to such a degree, nor that the disease itself is lethal to such a degree, as to force universal vaccinations. Of course, while they are largely ineffective at preventing Covid, the current vaccines are greatly effective in generating immense revenues for the government-pharmacological complex.
I say that the vaccines are ineffective based not on what I read on the internet or see on the news, which posit all sorts of contradictory evidence. I say this based simply by looking around. In the few dozen people that I know who have recently contracted the Omicron variant, most have been vaccinated. The vaccinated who have contracted Omicron have at least the same severity of symptoms as the unvaccinated. The vast majority of those who contract the current variant get over it within a week, whether they are vaccinated or unvaccinated. I have known families in which the virus sweeps through a household, but only the vaccinated get sick (this makes the unvaccinated feel a little sheepish, and the vaccinated feel a little resentful).
When the government was putting billions and trillions into developing a “vaccination,” it promised taxpaying citizens that once we took the drugs, we could return to the personal freedoms and economic prosperity we enjoyed before the lockdowns. The restrictions and government-induced fear, however, have not let up, particularly in those areas of the country where the vast majority are vaccinated (as in the San Francisco Bay Area, where I live).
In my opinion, the vaccines hardly work, but they do not need to work. The virus is taking its natural course of becoming more easily transmitted but less virulent. If we allow it to, the population will achieve herd immunity, which honest immunologists recommended from the beginning (see The Great Barrington Declaration). Natural immunity is always preferred to artificial manipulation of our bodies’ immune systems. But there’s one problem with natural approaches to human health: you can’t make big money on them. They are free, and freely chosen by free people.
OK, so we’ve been had. The government has not been entirely honest with us, but doesn’t every government manipulate evidence to govern its people? In fact, don’t we play loose with the facts to some degree these days? We might be a little uncomfortable with government manipulation, but as long as the economy still works, we can live with it. As long as we can still get next day delivery on a bit of government corruption is OK, right? As long as there’s still money in our credit cards, and as long as we can stream pornography on our phones, we can live with government control and Big Tech censorship, right?
Our problem is not Covid, and it’s not even big government, big pharma, and big tech. The problem with ourselves. We have stopped believing in God, and stopped following his laws, and so we are at the mercy of the laws of men.
The above comes from Jan. 10 posting on blog of Father Joseph Illo, pastor of Star of the Sea, San Francisco.
Touche! Fr. Illo hit the mark.
You mean “Bullseye!”
“Touche” is for fencing swords, “Bullseye” is for arrows and bullets. All the same to me. (Laughter.) I did hit some “bullseyes” with arrows in my teens.
I was teaching one grandson how to use a toy bow and arrow in my late fifties or early sixties, and I aimed for my icon of St. Nicholas on the mantle, thinking I would not even come close. Well, the rubber tipped arrow hit him smack dab on the face and sent him to the floor.
I found myself apologizing profusely, and promising St. Nicholas never ever to do that again. It did not damage him at all. He’s a sturdy old guy.
Easy mistake to make, but She can’t even admit that she either made a mistake or does not know what touché means. Pride lives loudly with this one. I feel touched.
No, false accuser, it was not pride. I was defending the appropriateness of Fr. Illo’s argument, and I did admit to my grandson and myself that I should not have aimed for the icon. Go twist someone else words.
Yes. Big
NO NO NO Nanette
It’s not big government that’s the problem.
It’s BIG TLM!
Good tongue in cheek.
TLM ?
TLM Traditional Latin Mass.
In fairness ccc removed my sarc tag.
A tip o the hat to the Padre for noting my poor attempt at a funny
I attend SSPX BTW.
Don’t you know, that Fr. Illo says the Tridentine Latin Mass daily? He is a good priest.
I am shocked by this. Nobody knows the future but God. Bearing false witness is a sin.
Does he not remember Italy 2020. India 2021.
God answers our prayers and it is attributed to man having lied.
Speak for yourself when you say we have stopped believing in God and following his laws.
Go tell the families of the dead (51/2 million people). Go tell the children left orphans by this disease.
I understand that he is talking about the Omicron variant. It did not exist when the vaccines were developed.
Like Pope Francis asked I still ask for the end of Covid everyday and I pray the Sub Tuum Praesidium every rosary.
God has answered our prayers in so many ways and nobody gives Him any credit. I credit Him with every good.
God didn’t make the vaccines, man did.
Man cannot make the vaccines without God’s help. Especially as fast as they got them to us. President Trump and Vice President Pence did a great job on that with God’s help.
Unless the LORD build the house, they labor in vain who build. Psalm 127:1
Can can sin without God’s help (unless you wish to make God responsible for sin like the Lutherans and Calvinists do). The vaccines were tested and/or produced with aborted fetal cells.
God has no part in sin. They are not tested or produced with aborted fetal cells. You mean cell lines that originated with cells from an aborted fetus. I don’t like that but God said to take the vaccine. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ. You can take the vaccine.
God brings good from evil. God loves all people, even the sinners. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and he died for sinners.
Your infatuation with COVID shots is your prerogative, but is insupportable with evidence.
What source for COVID shots efficacy do you watch?
The big push for the jab is global tyranny. Watch the video — it is excellent!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/01/19/clarity-of-the-bigger-question-why-this-massive-push-for-vaccinations/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=clarity-of-the-bigger-question-why-this-massive-push-for-vaccinations
The global push for the vaccines is life. Saving lives. Period. Five and a half million people worldwide have already died from COVID, at least 80% of those were unvaccinated. I find your lack of care for life horrific coming from a Christian.
YFC, if you don’t mind me calling you that, I really think they are afraid of something else, more than death from COVID. And it is not just for themselves but for the common good.
The problem is they are being misled from taking care of a real evil (physical evii, not moral) by concern about a hypothetical evil.
Peggy, I know this is hard to believe but those “pushing” the COVID vaccine want you to stay alive and be well. They want life as it was before the pandemic.
Whatever a Great Reset is-we are Catholics. We have the almighty Jesus Christ who from before the world was created, knew all this was going on. You were created to know. love and serve Him. Get with the Lord.
Peggy, take every conspiracy theory with a huge grain of salt.
I know a man whose whole family but him got Covid.
Three weeks later, he got it and he is much sicker than anyone else.
You don’t know the future.
I have not got Covid (praise to the Lord).
You cannot know who did not get it because of the vaccine or who did not show symptoms because of the vaccine.
Everyone in my family who got Covid recovered. But you can get it more than once and you can die from it even if you have had it before.
So, you sound confused. Which is understandable.
COVID shots were promised as vaccines. But they are not. Which is why CDC changed their definition of “vaccine,” so they could continue to call them vaccines.
Read RFK Jr’s book on Fauci. Fauci is a career criminal.
Dave, the COVID shots are vaccines. They overwhelmingly reduce serious illness and death due to all currently known variants of COVID 19.
A vaccine is a material introduced into the body to jump start the process of making antibodies so that if the person is infected with the live virus, the immune system is ready to handle it. That is what happens here. That is why these are legitimate vaccines. Please don’t try to confuse people.
Vaccines are not live virus so they do not cause the disease.
I believe some of the anti-vaxxers are the ones with the phobias but health anxiety is very hard to treat.
Also hard to treat is a suspicious or paranoid world view which may have preceded Covid or may have come after.
I am not saying you have that.
People make decisions based on differing criteria.
As a Catholic, the Church’s guidance is more important to me than the CDC.
The CDC, I feel, has not been something to have confidence in so you can look at other governments, other studies etc. You are not just confined to them.
I don’t listen to Fauci at all.
RFK Jr. has been an eccentric “anti-vaxxer” of all types of vaccines, for many decades. He is also a conspiracy theorist. Last month, he and his wife threw a big holiday party, at their Calif. home. Their party invitations requested that all guests either show proof of a COVID-19 vaccination, or else proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test. When confronted regarding his strange request in his party invitations, he replied that it was his wife’s fault.
It’s well known that obesity is the primary comorbidity factor. The obese have about a four times greater likelihood of dying from covid. If you’re young and healthy, there’s no need to get the jab.
I am not sure what Father Illo means by “Pope Francis has mandated for his jurisdiction”. I see online that employees of the Vatican must be vaccinated but not the churches of Rome.
I am just appalled at someone saying that this disease is not lethal to a degree to force universal vaccination. I agree as does the Pope that vaccination cannot be forced but at what death rate does Father Illo think the vaccine could be forced on others.
Vaccines don’t prevent the disease. It puts something in your body that will pre-emptively create anti-bodies so that if you get the disease, your body will have already figured out how to defend yourself from it. Like the flu vaccine, they are not 100% effective.
Also, San Francisco did a great job at trying to prevent spread of the virus. Where I live, a lot of people don’t take it very seriously. I do not think whatever his personal experience has been is representative. Someone at my Church got Delta after being vaccinated. She was hospitalized and is home, but several weeks after going home, she said she was at about 50%. She said she would be dead without the vaccine. She is not obese.
Seek counseling for your COVID phobia. Along with the woman from your church who just as easily may have been made sick by her “vax.”
I do not stream pornography on my phone. I am more than a little horrified by this suggestion.
I have been to Star of the Sea and I liked going to Mass there and I liked this priest. I hope he didn’t mean that he does that.
I want to send love to Father Illo, even though I am critical of this writing, I still love him.
I would like to make two points.
Whether the vaccines work or not is not a matter of opinion. It is too soon to evaluate efficacy on Omicron. This is an ever-changing situation. We have had 100 years to monitor and study flu and the flu vaccine this year was said to not be very effective.
The second point I would like to make is when someone tells you something and your personal experience is different, it does not mean that the other person lied. That is a possibility. In the case of a pandemic, every person’s experience is going to be different. Some may have similar experiences, some different. The government and the media, I believe, want to influence behavior and we all know that. That too does not mean that they are lying. Look at all the information you can and make the decision for yourself. If the government tells you to stand 6 ft apart and you read an article that says you need to be 12 feet apart, stay as far apart as possible. If the government tells you that you don’t have to wear a mask if you are vaccinated, it does not mean you cannot wear a mask. If you know you have been exposed and you are more comfortable with a 10 day isolation than a 5 day, do that if you can. I would prefer to err on the side of caution.
Feel free to be cautious. But you might consider what you are being told in light of reality.
You say it is too soon to assess the efficacy of COVID shots, but then offer an assessment of this year’s flu shot?!
The flu shot is given yearly. We have many years to compare it to.
We can compare the efficacy of the COVID vaccine to less than 2 years and it is such a new disease that everything is guessing.
But thanks for thinking critically.
The UK is going to scrap all Covid restrictions and treat it like a seasonal flu. Just like it should have been from the very beginning, but the left-wing elites wanted to entrench government control and steal an election. They wanted to convince large numbers of people to take an experimental jab. I’m one of the smart ones who never fell for any of it, and I never got the jab.
Regarding the pic: the definition of what a “young adult is” (up to age 39 in many dioceses) is ridiculous. I also don’t see any rosaries in the pic.
Young adults should be up to age 27 max. Problem is that the church has lost nearly all of Gen-Y and Gen-Z that they need to have an absurdly wide age range for “young adults” in order to appear to have a big program. And 23 year-olds don’t want to be in “young adult” activities with 35 year-olds, especially when the older ones try to hit on the younger ones. Creepy.
Rosaries were cropped in making the photo fit Cal Catholic horizontal photo format.
As one who was involved in successful young adult ministry for a number of years, I concur. There should be ministry with and a place for all in the Church, but that doesn’t mean all are “young adults.” A 20-year-old college student is in a considerably different “place” than a mid-thirties professional. That was one of the disappointments our young adult children had with Catholic “young adult” groups. Generally, an 18-year-old does not want to socialize with a 39-year-old. At 21 years older, they could be their parents! This problem is what causes a lot of Catholic young adult groups to fold. Maybe our Protestant friends get it right when they generally have two ministries or groups: College and Career. Or, have a Catholic singles group for older Catholic singles. When I was a young adult and our pastor asked a couple of us to start a young adult group, he asked that we have it for 18-25 year-olds, so it wouldn’t be just another Catholic singles pick up group. He told us that. Later, we extended the age to 30. But, the diocese I was part of at the time directed it to be 18-35, which is still too big an age difference. The USCCB states: “Young adults are persons in their late teens, twenties, and thirties.” Let’s hope dioceses and parishes don’t feel compelled to that unworkable definition for ministry. Let’s provide something for Catholics who are truly young adults.
You are right that the success of young adult groups really depends on who is in the group and what activities are there. Our young adult group was run by a young married couple.
They just went to coffee houses and talked about Catholic subjects.
Everybody really liked the couple but they were not people who made normal choices in life. They had unusual jobs, lived in an usual manner.
I think the discussions might have been a little too theological where just a couple of people talk and everybody else listens and it’s interesting but it’s not something you are going to give up a nap for.
There just was no real reason to keep going for many of the young adults. Then, it gets down to 4 people and then if anybody tries to join, it is like you are intruding on a friend group.
Fr. should be ashamed of himself. I wonder where he got his medical degree?
Bob One, I have made the decision to not use shaming. I feel like that is emotional manipulation or even arrogance.
Have you every really thought about it or are you just using a common expression?
I do not think he thought this through very well but maybe he was just venting on his blog.
I cannot say that I see the point of it, really.
Stella Maris Academy
Well said, Father
Wish he was our parish priest.
Thank you Father. Yes, virus gonna virus.
Is Amazon Prime really the opiate of the masses?
What does ‘still money in our credit cards” mean?
Shouldn’t that be debit card?
You aren’t running up big credit card debt are you?
Pay it off and tear up all but one card.
When has the government not lied to the American people?
I don’t know anything about porn on phones. Don’t do that. It’s weird. Most people are ashamed of things like that, if they do them.
Why isn’t big tech censoring that?
San Francisco is a different world. I agree that it was the crown jewel of the United States but y’all need to get back to God.
I can’t recall a Catholic priest ever refer to the Pope as the Bishop of Rome. I’ve heard lots of Lutherans call him that, and I’ve heard Catholic priests use the term in a proper historical context. He’s not wrong to use the term of course, he IS the Bishop of Rome and the primate of Italy. But he doesn’t handle day to day governance of the diocese. So, I don’t know, I just found the tone to be a bit off and possibly disrespectful.
YFC, I never though about that but you are right. The governance of Vatican City and Rome is done by Vicar generals.
Thanks so much. I love learning new things about the Church.
“Bishop of Rome” is the Pope’s oldest title, that upon which all other titles are based. He is Pope because he is Bishop of Rome, not the reverse.
Agreed Tom. And I love the title Bishop of Rome. And many other titles including Roman Pontiff – Supreme Pontiff. But context and tone are everything
the pope himself refers to his position as the bishop of Rome
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, in #882,, “The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter’s successor, ‘is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful.'” I’ve heard priests use that title and it appears right after “Pope” in the Catechism and, it seems to be, common usage. I don’t believe it’s at all disrespectful. He is first and foremost a bishop, with a unique role among all the bishops, successors to the Apostles. And, you mentioned Lutherans. Of course, the first Lutheran, a Catholic priest, was most disrespectful in calling the Pope the Anti-Christ. And, Herr Luther denied the Pope virtually any special place in the Church. Luther published On the Babylon Captivity of the Church, which charged the papacy with leading church members into a new imprisonment. Criticizing those who claimed that the Pope had “the power to make laws,” Luther wrote, “Unless they will abandon their laws, and restore to Christ’s churches their liberty, they are guilty of all the souls that perish under this . . . captivity, and the papacy is of a truth the kingdom of Babylon, yea, of the very Antichrist.” I’ve never heard a Lutheran refer to the Pope as the “bishop of Rome,” only as “the Pope.”
Fr. Illo was just listing the sins of humanity using hyperbole. He never meant he or anyone else was committing each and every one of all those sins. Geesh! can’t you distinguish from what is to be taken literally from what is an exaggeration to make a point?
My post was meant primarily for Creeped Out who posted 1-18-22 at 11:45 pm.
The jabs are not vaccines. They destroy our God-given immune system. The “elite” are being given placebos. More people are dying that have taken the jab than those who have refused to for many reasons, primarily for Catholics that they were developed with fetal cells, but also because. There is also a long list of other contaminants designed to trigger early death from “other causes” sooner or later as well as manipulation of our DNA. And the vicar of Christ (although PF has recused himself from that title) is NOT God and cannot change God’s laws. PF is a man of this world and as capable of sin as the rest of us. Yes, covid is a nasty virus, but the remedies were cheap, safe drugs that we were denied (hydroxchloroquine and ivermectin). Hospitals were financially incentivized to use remesdivir, which had a 50% death rate (mainly from renal failure) in the clinical studies. Ventilators (also paid bonuses by the government) finished the job. Hospitals were also paid for every covid death they recorded regardless of the real cause (even gunshot wounds) if they happened to test positive for covid. As far as testing, they amped up the cycles which created many false positives to scare the world’s population into compliance, a destruction of the economy and division among the people. Why, you ask, why? Read the Great Reset and Agenda 21, now Agenda 30.This has been a long time in the planning and it’s not over yet. This conspiracy, and it IS a conspiracy not a theory, is being brought to you by the globalists, very very very rich people who have the power and financial resources to create a one world government (if successful), a one world religion (Chrislam), total control of the economic system and your life through transhumanism. Look that one up. If ANY of this is new to you, then you are naive, God bless you. Read Revelations. Much of this has also been prophesied as well. Get on your knees and pray because God and the rosary is our best defense. And the second best thing is to do some research. The mainstream media is gaslighting us. Nazi wisdom: Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. Trust ONLY in God.
Anna S, if you had any real personal knowledge of any of this, you would be too afraid to put it online.
Anna, every sentence you wrote was incorrect. You are repeating things you heard on the internet or the far-right TV or radio, all of which is untrue. Facebook deletes accounts that produce these lies. I wonder why this site allows proven misinformation to be published at the expense of public health? Horse medicine, as just one example, is not a cure for covid and its variants. Elites, whomever they are, don’t get placebos. Please, stop printing this kind of untrue information.
Anna S., did you ever think that the people who tell you this stuff-all of which is wrong- want you to die? I hope it is not your family.
But your solution, praying, especially the rosary is the right thing to do.
Speaking of your family, if they are trying to tell you this stuff is wrong, please listen to them.
You may need professional help.
If you have read the Book of Revelation, then you know that what is going to happen is going to happen and the Christ will have the victory.
Trust God.
You have come to the right place of praying the rosary and reading the Bible and trusting God.
Stay there.
Make sure you are consecrated to the Immaculate Heart.
We might be a little uncomfortable with government manipulation, but as long as the economy still works, we can live with it. As long as we can still get next day delivery on a bit of government corruption is OK, right? As long as there’s still money in our credit cards, and as long as we can stream pornography on our phones, we can live with government control and Big Tech censorship, right?
A working economy, next day delivery, using a credit card are not sins.
Using pornography is. And there have been plenty of priests caught doing it.
We should be giving thanks to God, making reparation for our own and other’s sins, worshipping God and praising Him and begging Him for all the help we and others need.
In other words, praying.
And doing works of mercy.
And fulfilling our duties and obeying God’s law.
Of the people on ventilators at our hospital today (50ish) only 1 is vaccinated. All the rest are unvaccinated.
Please talk to your doctor. Don’t go by online conspiracy theories.
Father Illo and Archbishop Cordileone have perfect faith that allows them to proclaim they have special protection from God that prevents them from getting the virus. Too bad Cardinal Burke did not have the faith to have such holy protection from the virus.
So Angelo, your comment implies that anyone who gets the virus is not a person of true faith? Is that what you meant to say?
Ugh, don’t bring up Burke. Now the trads will defend him.
Invoking The Great Barrington Declaration (excellent resource by the way) is somewhat misleading in re Illo on vaccines and even herd immunity.
https://gbdeclaration.org
GBD co-author Bhattacharya on vaccines (50 min. mark):