The following comes from a November 10 New Ways Ministry blog post by Francis DeBernardo. New Ways Ministry has been condemned by U.S. bishops; see CalCatholic articles No one should be mislead and Censured again.
Yesterday, Bondings 2.0 reported on how LGBT topics were addressed at San Diego’s diocesan synod on the family, basically recommending greater pastoral outreach, and greater education about conscience development. While LGBT topics were only tangentially discussed at the meeting, there is a sign of hope that they will be aired more fully at the diocese’s next synod in 2018.
The reason for that optimistic outlook is that the diocese has already set the topic for that synod: young adults. And as surveys and general knowledge show, LGBT issues are a big concern for this demographic and are some of the main reasons that many youth leave the Church.
At least one diocesan official has already acknowledged the importance of LGBT concerns for the younger generation. The National Catholic Reporter spoke with Fr. John Dolan, vicar for clergy and pastor of two San Diego parishes, about the synod process, as well as about LGBT outreach:
“There are two different forms of doing church,” he said. “One is very dialogical, from a dialogical sense, and the other is from a monological sense. And we have dealt with that monological world: Things come from on high, they get shelved in some pastor’s corner, then there’s some thought that comes down, but ultimately it’s all ‘We’re going to tell you what to think.’ ”
Dolan, whose two parishes overlap the Hillcrest area — understood to be the lesbian, gay, transgender and bisexual center of the city of San Diego — added that the lack of attention to that population at the current synod was ‘the elephant in the room.’
“Young adults have an acceptance of the LGBT experience. It is simply a part of their world, and they look at us, and say, “What is the problem?’ ” Dolan said.
Interestingly, Bishop Robert McElroy, who initiated the synod process in San Diego, said he was surprised the LGBT topics were so strongly voiced by the delegates at the family synod which just ended.
The synod delegates recommended that the diocese establish an office of family spirituality, and that outreach to LGBT people be a part of that office’s ministry. McElroy explained the group’s recommendation to him included that the name be inclusive of LGBT and other non-traditional families. He said they told him:
“Don’t call [it] your Office of Marriage and Family Life, call it the Office of Family Spirituality.”
“They had a pyramid … which was a very inclusive notion of what family means. And they said, ‘This is not a sociological declaration … our Catholic spirituality of family says family for us includes this.’ People who are gay or lesbian or transgender or bisexual, whatever … they’re part of our own families, this is part of what family life means.”
San Diego is on the LGBT road to perdition: “Let’s Generate Bogus Theology”.
To LGBTQ people: Run away from B. McElroy and his minions. Satan has sons, and they know him and he knows them. Learn the True Faith, come home to the Church, go to confession, reject your sexual sins, and learn to live the right way. Pray the Rosary, seek help from Mary. Avoid anyone in the Church that says, “You are OK as you are,” or “We accept you as is,” anything like that (unless you are celibate).
Your sexual expression is not, and can never be, accepted within the Church. It is always a mortal sin, every time. Those who say that having homosexual sex is OK “because God made you that way” are the true sons of Satan. Seek salvation and you will find it. We will pray for you.
“Those who say that having homosexual sex is OK “because God made you that way” are the true sons of Satan. Seek salvation and you will find it. We will pray for you.”
Amen!!
There is no activity that is “always a mortal sin, every time”. You are not teaching the doctrine of the faith.
Sins against chastity, such as homosexual activity, are indeed ALWAYS mortal.
WHere do you find that?
Try CCC 2nd Edition, #2351-2359.
Mr. Northon, those paragraphs don’t even MENTION mortal sin once, let alone say that these activities are ALWAYS mortally sinful.
Tell that to nature. Anyone can just google all the diseases and bodily injuries that are gotten from sodomy. Our bodies were not constructed that way. Stop seducing others into serious sin.
Actually, you are wrong, “YFC.” Homosexual sex is always, by definition, a mortal sin; and no, it does not “count” if someone is raped and sodomized, or if someone lacks mental capacity to sin.
But, you knew that “YFC” and suggested something different to fit your catastrophically wrong view of Catholicism. A person cannot elect to have homosexual sex and not have it be a mortal sin, each and every time. As the CCC, at Sec. 2357 states, “Under no circumstances can they [homosexual sexual acts] be approved.”
Young adults have an acceptance of the LGBT experience. It is simply a part of their world, and they look at us, and say, “What is the problem?’ ” Dolan said.
The problem is a generation of youth (and adults, sad to say) whose values come from Hollywood and not the holy wood of the cross.
And priests like Dolan who doesn’t teach the truth, but allows these young people to delude themselves, believing that it’s all good. It isn’t.
Sodom and Gamorrah directly at Park & University, eh?
Did the Synod settle primarily on LGBTQ issues or were there discussions about the many young Catholic adults who live together without benefit of marriage? The preparations for the Synod led me to believe that this and other items were to be discussed. At any rate
there is more and more evidence that LGBTQ issues are more nurture and less nature.
That’s because homosexuality is a mental disorder.
No there is not more and more evidence more nurture and less nature, and no homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
It is a mental disorder because it is a desire for something that is neither healthy, nor good, nor appropriate for a human being. To desire contrary to the reproductive instinct and purpose of sex is to desire what is contrary to nature and contrary to the intrinsic finality of sex. Individuals who so desire have disordered desires. Desires are mental states, and disordered desires are disordered mental states. Having a disordered mental state is to have a mental disorder.
Repeating the lie about the normalcy of homosexuality doesn’t make it true. It is a mental disorder. Homosexuals have something wrong with them, and what is wrong with them is precisely their same-sex desires/mental states.
There is a new, solidly Catholic therapist who just opened a practice in Carlsbad, which is located in the geographic boundaries of the Diocese of San Diego. One of the things he specializes in is reparative therapy for persons seeking to overcome their same-sex attractions and develop their true masculinity or femininity in accordance to their God-given gender as a man or a woman. http://www.vaticanvalues.com