The following comes from a Feb. 27 story in the Orlando Sentinel.
Walt Disney World will no longer subsidize local chapters of the Boy Scouts of America, in response to the national organization’s continued ban on allowing LGBT troop leaders.
The theme park has donated in the past to the Orlando-area Boy Scouts as part of its Ears to You program, which gives money to causes for which its employees volunteer. The Walt Disney Company’s Standards of Business Conduct includes protections against “harassment or discrimination” based on, amongst other things, “sex, sexual orientation, and gender identification.”
The Boy Scouts of America voted last spring to allow openly gay youth scouts, but kept its ban on openly gay troop leaders.
“We recognize that many Scout units have received financial support over the last several years from this grant opportunity and are sad to see it go,” the Scouts’ Central Florida Council Board President Robert Utsey wrote in an email to local members. “The National BSA Council has reached out to WDW to try to resolve the situation, however, according to WDW, their views do not currently align with the BSA and they are choosing to discontinue this level of support. We will continue to keep an open line of communication with them, but at this time, are unable to reverse their decision.”
Every year, tens of thousands of LGBT people gather on the first weekend in June at Walt Disney World and other Orlando theme parks and resorts, making it one of the biggest LGBT group celebrations in the world. Disney does not officially recognize the “Gay Day,” but has not discouraged the tradition, which has earned it the wrath of conservative and religious groups. It also has offered health benefits to same-sex partners of employees since 1995, and allows same-sex marriage ceremonies on its grounds.
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The sodomites crave access to boys, and it’s not to read them bible stories. Indeed, there’s a reason why sodomites, who are only 2% of the population, make up 33% of all child sex abusers.
Pure myth (but I can only assume you know that).
https://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths
No, pure fact, as established by the plethora of scientific studies published by the Family Research Council (and dutifully ignored by the media).
Next time try to get information from something other than the pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, leftist Southern Poverty Law Center. But that’s probably your go-to place for information, right?
The Family Research Council is a bonafide anti-gay hate organization rightfully ignored by the media (and anyone else with a any sense of moral decency.)
FRC an anti-gay hate organization? Don’t make me laugh. The real haters are the ones who are forcing us to accept these gender identity disorders and put our kids are risk. Who lacks moral decency?….Talk about calling good evil and evil good..
The Family Research Council is a Christian organisation, which is why it is hated by you, Siollan Murphy, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and all homosexualists.
peter the resources you pull from are from Anti-Christian, anti-truth and anti-faith!
If you would have any moral decency you would stop being so anti-Christian! It seems like the truth hurts your pride so much that you would slander a moral organization!
juergensen you are right on the money. Those who support “gay” ideologies would hate anything that defends the natural law. Since the natural law was handed down to us from our ALMIGHTY God, the ALPHA AND OMEGA, then they have issues with our Lord. They rebel against His natural laws so they will slander and shut down anything who speaks up in truth. Jesus came to save us from our selves! These activist homosexuals and heteros do not reflect on the necessity of salvation, they only want to change God and His natural law. How can they change something that is not up for debate nor changeable! They don’t want to give up their fleshly desires, NO! But they want to intimidate so others will accept their choices away from GOD! DO THEY NOT KNOW THAT OUR FAITHFULNESS is with our Lord! Don’t they know that we have saints who were murdered because they did not cave in to man’s ideologies away from God!
They submerge themselves with information that only satisfies their edification of their choices away from God. PITY THEM! For it will take God’s grace to convert their hardened hearts. We have no power over their choices, it will take our Lord to move their hearts in the right direction. We just have to do our part, pray in charity.
peter, after reading your slanderous remarks, I imagine that you must REALLY fear the Family Research Council. In my opinion it would be much more productive for you if you transferred your fears toward BIG GOVERNMENT. :)
The Family Research council is a political organization that operates expressly to spread misinformation and debunked junk science (lies) for the purpose of influencing public opinion, and ostensibly public policy. There is nothing scientific about it. The “research” you refer to is so old and thoroughly debunked, FRC had to create the fake, but official-sounding American College of Pediatricians to lend it an air of legitimacy.
If you’re looking faux science to confirm a bias, guess you found it, just as you could with Young Earth Creationism, or any number of superstitious beliefs. Don’t look to closely, as it collapses under the slightest bit of scrutiny. Is a lie less of a lie if you delude yourself into believing it?
SPLC may have a bias, but it does not seek (or need) to spread defamatory misinformation under guise of empiricism.
Here’s a more annotated version from a professor at UC Davis:
https://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Wrong.
The Family Research Council is a Christian organisation devoted to Christ and protecting the children. It only reports what the media hides: the plethora of scientific studies showing that sodomites make up 33% of all child sex abusers, despite being only 2% of the population.
And, these numbers are not from the FRC, but rather from a plethora of scientific studies and journals explicitly cited by the FRC in its papers. Just one example:
Kurt Freund, et al., “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,” Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (1984): “The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent” (197).
Too bad for all the homosexualists pushing the sodomite agenda, with the Internet this scientific data cannot be hidden from us anymore.
Siollan,
Here’s your bottom line: The practice of homosexuality is a mortal sin and will result in consignment to Hell if unrepented. Celibate homosexuals are not guilty of mortal sin otherwise. But how many homosexuals are celibate?
The FRC is a Christian organization using the language of science, in an unscientific manner, to work backward from a set of conclusions based in dogma, to be used for political ends. The word “agenda” has become a pejorative cliche, but that’s a quintessential agenda. And that’s not science.
Its fine to believe something based in biblical reading or magisterial authority, but that’s not what you’re doing. You’re quoting disingenuous propaganda and presenting it as empirical.
And it’s not like FRC is fooling anyone. Their work is in the political realm, and has little, if anything in the way of scientific credibility, even when drawing conclusions from credible source material. But FRC wants to be seen (at least at a superficial glance) as credible, and relies on the endorsement of an equally political group (the American College of Pediatricians) that is intentionally designed to be confused with the American Academy of Pediatricians. Pure cynicism and deceit. How Christian.
The FRC is motivated to promote the idea that gays are pedophiles, not because it’s true, but because fear is a useful tool.
You can’t conflate homosexuality with pedophilia, because pedophiles and people who have adult peer relationships (both gay and straight) are distinct and overwhelmingly don’t overlap. And pedophiles are far more likely to cross gender barriers than adults of either orientation who have peer relationships, which at least partially explains the higher incidence of homosexual pedophilia.
Here’s something (that actually uses your Freund data) to explain:
https://individual.utoronto.ca/james_cantor/blog1.html
Siollan, the FRC is a political organization? Since folks like you seem to prefer to push your agendas through our much trampled on political process, I first figured that you would be embracing of them. But No! Then you bring up Almighty Science! I suppose you embrace the notion that CO2 is destroying the planet. Of course, if you are concerned about reducing CO2 levels, which you and I and all of our fellow human beings expel with our every breath, you must also be concerned about reducing the amount of humans living on our planet. This might explain your powerful embracing of sterile sex, which of course does not result in families i.e. more people. I GET IT NOW! :)
juergensen God bless you for defending FRC. You are a noble soul and so are others who defend the truth.
Jurgensen – here is the quote from Tammy Bruce and “The Death of Right & Wrong:
Tammy Bruce -Author of the book The Death of Right and Wrong
On How Homosex Abuse Creates Homosex Abusers.]
Although regularly censored by the ‘mainstream’ media, author Tammy Bruce long ago provided the essential insights in to the problems with Ephebophile Chicken Hawks targeting Boys for Homosex Rape
“..If the Catholic Church had been as eager to defend its principles as the Boy Scouts have been, so many lives would not have been damaged or destroyed.
Frankly, even before the depth of the Catholic Church’s problem became known, it was common knowledge that many gay men pursue sexual relationships with adolescent boys. Why?
Based on my experience in the gay community, I believe it’s due to the fact that so many gay men had their first sexual experience as an adolescent with an adult male.
That is a traumatic experience, and as long as the wound remains untreated, the victim feels compelled to continually reenact the experience so as to master it or project it on to others… The other reason actually discussed in the community is that, because of the Aids crisis and the emergence of drug resistant strains of contagions like herpes and gonorrhea, gay men are compelled to seek new, untouched young men.”
international law by reason of the identity of the group or collectivity.” CCR alleges that the defendant plaintif, Sexual Minorities Uganda, as well as individual staff members and member organizations, suffered severe deprivations of fundamental rights as a direct result of a coordinated campaign “largely initiated, instigated and directed” by Scott Lively.
In a conference call with reporters, CCR Senior Staff Attorney Pam Spees said that the Alien Tort Statute act had been applied in other specific cases of human rights violations against individuals. But she acknowledged that if this case prevails, it would establish a precedent for applying it to the crime of persecution, which, as a crime against a group, is different from a general “ordering the killing of people in his custody.” She pointed out U.S. asylum cases have acknowledged sexual orientation and gender identity and expression as legitimate claims for persecution.
And what do you think the majority of our own Catholic church’s sex abuse scandal was about? ….In case you do not know, the majority was homosexual abuse….
Jurgensen – I dispute your ‘33%’ mark and assert that Homosex Abuse of Boys is a Homosex Behavior, not a Heterosexual one.
Perhaps the confusion comes with those on the ‘Down Low’ (Like POTUS Barry Soetoro & his Beard Michelle – conveniently supplied by ‘reverend GDA wright) and others who hide their Pederast Pogroms behind Women’s Skirts – like Ariana Huffington’s Husband did – until he expose that lie too.
Still – Even Rock Hudson’s ‘marriage’ to his Agent’s Secretary in a ‘love match’ – just before he was to be exposed – was more convincing than the scam put on by POTUS Down Low Soetoro and his pals from Chicago’s “Man Country” Bathhouse where he hung out – literally.
Regardless – whether it quacks like LARRY BRINKIN (Who was Sentenced for Racist Toddler Rape Porn to Felony Imprisonment / lifetime registration as a Sex Offender) and Brinkin’s Homosex Husband…
Or Pretends to be Heterosexual and does the same Evil to Boys Exclusively
– Tammy Bruce Got It Right in her book “The Death of Right & Wrong” – Excerpt to follow:
Tammy Bruce -Author of the book The Death of Right and Wrong
On How Homosex Abuse Creates Homosex Abusers & Ephebophile Chicken Hawks target Boys for Homosex Rape
“..If the Catholic Church had been as eager to defend its principles as the Boy Scouts have been, so many lives would not have been damaged or destroyed.
Frankly, even before the depth of the Catholic Church’s problem became known, it was common knowledge that many gay men pursue sexual relationships with adolescent boys. Why?
Based on my experience in the gay community, I believe it’s due to the fact that so many gay men had their first sexual experience as an adolescent with an adult male.
That is a traumatic experience, and as long as the wound remains untreated, the victim feels compelled to continually reenact the experience so as to master it or project it on to others… The other reason actually discussed in the community is that, because of the Aids crisis and the emergence of drug resistant strains of contagions like herpes and gonorrhea, gay men are compelled to seek new, untouched young men.”
“Almost without exception, the gay men I know (and that’s too many to count) have a story of some kind of sexual trauma or abuse in their childhood – molestation by a parent or an authority figure, or seduction as an adolescent at the hands of an adult.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is itself a hate group. Left-wing, pro-abortion,pro gay”marriage”, pro-Socialist, Anti-Christian.
And 66% are heteroseuzl!
The Boy Scouts have the same problem as our Church…..many young boys around some local leaders with sexual issues about boys. If the Scouts allowed gay scout masters, obvious problems would immediately develop and lawsuits would commence. Problems based on common sense are always frowned upon by ideologues. Most parents would object to having an 18 year old male run a Girl Scout troop, but gays think we shouldn’t think twice about having men sexually attracted to boys being around….boys!
Again, completely premised on a lie: that gay men are pedophiles. Gay men are not attracted to children any more than straight men are. Gays are gays. Pedophiles are pedophiles.
Presumably, anyone wanting to be involved in Scout leadership is going to be a parent of a child involved in it, and a member of the community (school or church).
You hit on a similar problem in the Church, though, and why the idea that identifying and excluding gays is going to exclude pedophiles (in the priesthood or in the Scouts) is misguided and ineffective. You end up excluding anyone in an open, well-adjusted peer relationship, and keep everyone with dark, heavily-guarded secrets. The priesthood is even worse, as it can function institutionally to attract people who wish to repress their sexual inclinations, and the only ones left that are maligned by out post-Sexual Revolution society are the truly aberrant.
Personally, I was a Boy Scout, and one of the leaders in my troop was definitely a pedophile. He wasn’t identifiably or openly gay, but he was a creepy, lecherous, childless, middle aged man who followed me home from school in his car a number of times trying to get me to get in… No clue how he was involved in Scouts in the first place (how could he not have raised serious red flags?). He was just some dude from the parish who was career military, and presumably knew about camping.
Practicing homosexuals have their own life to correct, before trying to teach children.
Oscar, simply true!
The rate of abuse in the homosexual orientation is over 30%. Heterosexual abuse is 10%. Of course, not all homosexuals are pedophiles but the majority in our Church’s sex abuse scandal were. You can deny all you want but the truth will set you free..
Good Cause, an 18 year old gay male is still a male and not a female. There is a difference. There is such a thing as self-control. Just because these guys love scouting does not make them dangerous.
This is s0 tragic! Well, we cannot support Walt Disney Studios, any longer! People do not seem to understand– there is a big difference, between whole-hearted acceptance of all people, regardless of who they are– and yet, to tell people, they must abide by a good Christian moral code, too! Especially in regards to groups involving family life, and children! Do we want a child to have to deal with, or be potentially exposed to– the dangers of possible immoral, deviant, gay sex acts?? I thought the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts originally preached the virtue of Chastity and respect for God, for all the Scouting children! Why can’t they do this, as part of their program?? Then, tell everyone– “matters of sex are totally inappropriate, for the Scouts, and against Scouting rules,” and that is that! No sex discussions allowed! Any boy with sex issues, must deal with this with his family, or with a professional, (such as a counselor, clergyman etc.)– and this is only a PRIVATE matter!! All Scouts must abide by the rules of Chastity, as well as selfless service– and grow up to be nice gentlemen, believing in God, with good morals; a fine community member, and hopefully, a role model for others! That’s the way I see it!! Oh, what a BIG MISTAKE they are all making!! So TRAGIC!! The Boy Scouts was never meant to be a place for sex discussions, for children!! Ridiculous!!
huh? The Boy Scouts was never meant to be a place for sex discussions for children. That isn’t going to change. Homosexuals are not boogy-men Linda – LOL! Won’t someone please think of the children!! (Cue smelling salts.)
Very true, homos are not Bogeymen, they are sick, pathetic people who are living in a world of denial and deception and guilty of practicing crimes against nature. This description describes those who practice and act on their homosexuality. Celibate homosexuals are not guilty of mortal sin as long as they are celibate.
You sound unusually corrupt and evil! What is wrong with you? Does anyone have to tell you, that childhood is a sensitive, delicate, and sacred thing?? Have you NO RESPECT?? Of course, no one, including gays, are to be viewed as so-called “bogymen!” That is ridiculous! But there is a time and a place, for discussion of sex matters, which are also deeply personal! Scouting is no place for childrens’ sex discussions of any type at all! Scouting is a place for building GOOD CHARACTER!! And GOOD CHARACTER training always includes the “Golden Rule”: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Adults who want sex discussions for children are EVIL!!
I totally agree, Linda. Having homosexual scout masters is not going to change that. You seem to be implying that discussions of adult sexual activity will for some reason become commonplace if homosexuals are allowed to be scout masters. That’s just fear mogering. Any homosexual wanting to become a scout master would be because they have children of their own and want to participate in and support activities with their children and their community as any good parent should.
Linda,
You just explained why when the Communist took over a country, they imprisoned and murdered Scout Masters and some Scouts even before they did so to Church Leaders!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Former 30+ year Scouter
Instead of persecuting a traditional Catholic college in Fort Worth by prohibiting the TLM, the American bishops should be promoting a nationwide boycott of all Disney products. But do you think this will happen? When donkeys fly! In the pre-Vatican II days, every bishop would have gone on the bandwagon to condemn such outrageous behavior. At least the Boy Scouts are standing up for morality, and have not caved in like the Girl Scouts did many years ago. Today’s news that some Republicans want to allow for sodomite weddings just shows what is happening. The bishops just keep on fiddling and flying around, while the Church and society burn. As I told a bishop two years ago,” God will not be mocked, and He holds us clerics responsible when we are NOT taking care of our flock.” Please, dear Readers of Calcatholic, stay away from all Disney products and their theme parks. By patronizing them, you will be causing scandal, and may be committing mortal sin.
Utter nonsense.
Every word that Fr. Karl says is true.
peter, you are correct — utter nonsense.
Father Karl sees an intrigue around every corner.
Anonymous writes: “…Father Karl sees an intrigue around every corner.”
The only intriguing thing here is the dogged attempt to recast that which is unnatural, unhealthy, instinctively repulsive, non-productive and amoral as somehow misunderstood, beautiful, and deserving somehow of public exultation… and pride.
As for seeing around corners, at least Fr. Karl is using his eyes to actually see (that is their natural function) instead of intentionally blinding himself and others. Is that cognitive behavioral therapy technique or just solid, fill glasses?
Good grief.
You have it right Peter. Disney movies and products are a welcome change from the glorification of violence in many R ratedd movies and some rap music.
A mortal sin to go to Disneyland? A waste of money, certainly, but a mortal sin?
That is possible only if purchasing the computers and software we use to post here is a mortal sin. Those purchases benefit companies just as friendly to homosexual marriage and just as unfriendly to the Boy Scouts, as Disney.
Sad isn’t it, Brian S, that we are all unwittingly supporting the sodomite agenda. And it is so prevalent that even supposedly good Catholics will casually dismiss involvement as so many, “…purchases benefit companies just as friendly to homosexual marriage and just as unfriendly to the Boy Scouts, as Disney.”
While that may mitigate the culpability of objective mortal sin for the individual, it is surely disgusting as what is being promoted is highly offensive to God. But nobody seems concerned about offending God or even loving Him. Just steering clear of any ownership like a bumbling Adam with his index finger pointing anywhere but at himself.
That’s the utter yuck of it all.
Ann, only a willful ignorance could explain anyone being unaware of the positions of Apple or Microsoft toward homosexual marriage, or of Disney, and for long before now, so drop the excuse that you do business with those companies “unwittingly”, Ann!
Ann, am I to believe that you are buying products in ignorance of the long-standing policies of these companies? I certainly do not!! Meanwhile you simultaneously accuse me “casually” dismissing the significance of this? Who is pointing fingers at whom?
We live in a deeply offensive time, and you are being offensive to suggest that only you, and are concerned about it. Yuck, indeed!
It was the seemingly casual dismissal of Fr. Karl’s message with an its-everywhere mentality that caught my attention, Brian S. Written on the tail end of ‘utter nonsense’ by a previous poster, it was too hard to ignore.
That said, you are correct in that it is a deeply offensive time in which we live. Catholics unwittingly support that which we label sin all the time – which is what I said, Brian S. You may be diligent with every dollar. You may not pay taxes due to the United States funding of abortion. I don’t know. But the reality is, for all of ‘our’ watching there is a certain amount of unwitting support for that which is sinful.
But for ‘all of us’ Adams out there pointing the finger at Eve, we need to remember that God sees the three remaining digits pointing back at ourselves. Heck, He doesn’t even need to see the fingers. But putting the priority back on the desire to please and not offend God Almighty should start taking priority, not just slipping out of the ‘guilt’ of mortal sin.
God bless.
I wasn’t being casual. “It” IS everywhere, Ann, or haven’t you noticed? It is not the unwitting, it is the normal intercourse with the world that results in some money we spend winding up in the hands of evil men.
Time after time in these threads, I urge the cause of small business and well-distributed property against the current order built by and for the benefit of the large corporations, and each time I’m called a socialist, and reminded that the Church must stay out of economics.
Yet this is a good example of exactly how large corporations bend our society in nasty ways. What would hurt Disney more effectively than the fantasy of mass boycott would be the restoration of sensible copyright law, to replace the current regime of re-writing it to the order of the Disney Corporation each time Mickey Mouse approaches the public domain.
I don’t think we need to embrace socialism to get back effectively at Disney. Better to have Catholics behave in a Catholic manner. Beginning with teaching and being taught exactly what that means, nasty doctrine and all.
So saying, sex has always sold. That is to people interested in it. And that pool is growing as Catholics discard doctrine in lieu of ‘it’s everywhere’ ‘don’t be mean’ ‘don’t judge’ ‘it’s too hard’. As to that, it is everywhere, doctrine does appear mean at first much like chemotherapy would, judging actions is something we do everyday when it matters to US, and life is hard.
That’s why I liked Fr. Karl’s post about boycotting Disney. It’s long overdue.
Good Points Brian:
Far Far too often are the donations of the Faithful spent outside the Faith – enriching those hostile to the Church & Magisterium, and essentially paying for our own persecution.
I have been absolutely shocked by Some (Thankfully Not Most) of the ‘teachers’ I have encountered in the Catholic Schools where I have taught as a Substitute, some of whom use the classroom to Trash the Church – in thought, word & deed.
I once took over for the last 6 weeks of the semester a class that had been (if not physically or sexually – but emotionally and academically) abused by a radical Anti-Catholic Homosexualist Activist.
This womyn particularly hated Males, and thus Boys provided her a target for this Misandry (Hatred of Men & Boys, Masculinity & Normal Heterosexuality) – Boys who dared not even speak back, let alone quote Church Teaching to her.
Anywayyy… The internet is a Tool that Should allow Catholics to Connect with Others, and Hire Catholics to do Catholic Good Works as well as other jobs.
What goes around comes around – Unless we send it outside the Faith, in which case it doesn’t return via the Sunday Collection to renew our ability to do More Good.
Socialism must never be embraced, Ann. You are continuing to ignore the point, which is that the biggest corporations are the biggest advocates and funders of gay rights. Father Karl’s assertion that touching anything they produce or sell thus represents a mortal sin would require a response even beyond that of the Amish. It is ridiculous. Realistic alternatives exist that would reduce the power of these unholy legal “individuals” however.
If it proves your point to assert that Fr. Karl’s sentiments are ridiculous then you are playing into the hands of those who would divide the lovers of God, Brian S. Very logical of you, however, to want to have what you consider realistic alternatives, but not at the expense of belittling those on the same team – especially a well intended, faithful priest.
That was my point.
That said, the Amish might seem absurd and reactionary, but at least they actually attempt to practice what they purport to believe. I can respect that even if I don’t share their beliefs.
God bless.
I don’t know Father Karl. However, anyone (priest or not) who seriously asserts that simply buying produts or services from a gay-friendly business is a mortal sin should at least be expected to explain what exempts their use of the computer they use to broadcast the assertion.
The Amish certainly earn our respect, but most Catholics are not called to separate themselves from the world in that way, and neither are the Amish as removed from the world as you might think, being forced to deal with economic pressures through such things as public sales work, and other compromises opposed by many within their community. Similarly, and to help us deal with the problems of moving within a sin-filled world, the Church has long developed guidance distinguishing between formal and material cooperation.
Primarily individuals need to consider the effect that their specific action (i.e., buying Disney stock, a “Fantasia” DVD, or a “Mickey” shirt at St. Vincents’ DePaul) will have on the likelihood of Disney’s sinful act and the closeness of their own relationship with Disney, Inc.
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01100a.htm
Brian writes: I don’t know Father Karl. However, anyone (priest or not) who seriously asserts that simply buying produts or services from a gay-friendly business is a mortal sin should at least be expected to explain what exempts their use of the computer they use to broadcast the assertion.
Like I said, Karl, you are entitled to your logical approach. But going after those on the same team does little good when fighting a common enemy.
God bless.
Correction to Brian S.
Like I said, Brian S, not Karl, that is Fr. Karl, you are entitled to your logical approach.
God bless.
A common approach requires common agreement. You still haven’t explained how your purchase and use of Apple or Microsoft products – both gay-promoting companies – is acceptable while another’s purchase of a “Mulan” soundtrack CD from Disney is not.
At any rate, my beef is not with the suggestion that Disney theme parks should be avoided. It was the assertion that going to one is a mortal sin. That isn’t “going after those on the same team”, that is objecting to scandal-mongering.
You are really focused on your point, Brian S. Got it. That said, life goes beyond Apple or Microsoft products or the gotcha of supposedly catching others out. That’s why I indicated we are all guilty – that is me included – of aiding and abetting that which is anti-Catholic and sin. You seem to be confused into thinking I’m expunging myself by the term ‘unwitting.’ That said, I’m as guilty as are you, Brian S. Even by paying taxes….unless of course you’re hiding off grid in some self sustaining bunker where you grow your own food by hand-harvested seed.
As to ‘scandal-mongering’, a call to boycott Disney is not scandal mongering, nor is the intimation that things are reaching such a peak that Catholics should all look into the level of sin in which we are involved. That’s a wake up call, Brian S.
And a wake up call might be what is needed to bring about the ‘common approach’ you suggest. That is we all need to wake up instead of sloughing off this increase of sin. (That goes for priests, religious, and laity.)
God bless.
No, Ann, you don’t get the point. I’m not trying to trap anyone. It can’t be a trap, because it isn’t a mortal sin to buy an Apple computer. My point is that contrary to Father Karl’s assertion, it is almost certainly NOT a mortal sin to go to Disneyland. The scandal I referred to was of asserting otherwise, because it accuses many of mortal sin on insufficent grounds.
Brian S, God love you, I got that point on my first response to you. So yes, I agree, buying Disney might not be mortal sin. I concede to your issue. I did on my first reply. But you – like many – seem fixed on dismissing the horror of being tagged with the commission of mortal sin to the negation of the message or the spirit of what is being conveyed by Fr. Karl – that of our increasing involvement in grave offenses against God. As if guilt is some technicality only.
That is the scandal I’m referring to. That of Catholics offending our Beloved Father grievously, but since technically we cannot be charged with the crime, seemingly going about our merry way. It’s more like litigation than the loving exchange of those not wanting to offend a good and loving Lord.
If you don’t ascribe to the scandal in that, then so be it. I welcome Fr. Karl’s wake-up calls as often it is the bold, sometimes over-the-top statement that gets one to think. And think hard which is something we should do.
Ok, Ann. Point fully run into ground. Probably not the first time that has happened around here – or even in this thread.
One person’s “wake-up call” is another’s “crying wolf”, however. And describing Catholic teachings as exercises in litigation is a common complaint from non-Catholics as well. I’m reminded that Cardinal Newman (defending the Jesuits) observed the oddity of those who claimed to abhor lying roundly criticizing those who would define what it consisted of.
AM, you reject the notion that you should worship in a church in full communion with Rome. So I hardly think you are one to talk about scandal. #justsayin
Nine ways of being an accessory to another’s sin.
1.By Counsel
2.By Command
3.By Consent
4.By Concealment
5.By Defense of Evil Done
6.By Partaking
7.By Provocation
8.By Praise
9.By Silence
Then you need to take a very hard look at the contributions and support that these companies deliver to dubious causes. It may not be mortal sin, but support implies approval and approval strongly suggests complicity. Are you complicit in their sin?
You are using the same technology, made by the same handful of companies, as I am, hosemonkey. What is the answer? Are you complicit in their sins?
Nobody, including the Roman Catholic Church, has done as much to eliminate child abuse as the Boy Scouts. Back in the 80’s when I served on the Executive Board of a large regional council, all boys and leaders had to take training, to teach the kids how to recognize unwanted advances and how to report it. Scout leaders are not allowed to be alone with boys. If they are having a one-on-one it must be in a room with a window in the door. Today, we would never let a priest/nun/teacher be in a room with one child. But, to the notion of Disney cutting off the money, we need to understand that the day when it was acceptable to oppose people who are gay is over. In today’s news, the Pope even intimated that while same sex marriage was not ok, there are many situations when civil unions would be acceptable. The sands are shifting under our feet. In twenty years we won’t recognize ourselves.
Wrong Bob One,
True Catholics will still recognize themselves as well as other True Catholics!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and on your amoral soul!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Bob One in twenty years, I pray that the faithful will still remain faithful. This world is temporary. We all must die some day. It is the ones who persevere in the truth that will reap far greater rewards. May Jesus be our strength and courage to continue to do what is right. We must be meek and humble and understand that some things are not in our hands. We must trust God and leave in His hands. We must reflect on our own sins and better our selves for our Lord.
Civil unions are not same-sex unions.
The interview is here:
https://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=9491
Many nations have regulated civil unions. Is it a path that the Church can understand? But up to what point?
Marriage is between a man and a woman. Secular states want to justify civil unions to regulate different situations of cohabitation, pushed by the demand to regulate economic aspects between persons, such as ensuring health care. It is about pacts of cohabitating of various natures, of which I wouldn’t know how to list the different ways. One needs to see the different cases and evaluate them in their variety.
Here is a link to Father Z’s perspective and comments on the matter of the TLM being denied at the Fort Worth campus. https://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/
I don’t understand how going to Disney theme parks or buying a Disney product could be a mortal sin. What mortal sin would it be?
How would it be scandal?
Even using Catherine’s list of being an accessory to a sin, what sin is it?
As everyone knows, Disney is no longer the child oriented Walt Disney of the past.
Money from Disney is now very tainted and the BSA are better off not getting that sordid money.
The current president of Disney Studios is Alan Bergman who is a major contributor to ultra liberal pro-abort, pro-Gay Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Max Baucus and a Los Angeles based unions.
Every time you pay the exorbitant price for your children or grandchildren to go to Disney land or every time you purchase a Disney product, you are contributing to an immoral business.
If ALL Catholics and Christians would put their money where their mouth is, Disney and a whole host of corporations would be hurting. The Boycott List names corporations who contribute to Planned Parenthood and I would bet that many also support the gay agenda. But most don’t seem to care enough even when they find out about these businesses. Entertainment is everything to many families no matter how damaging to our culture it may be.
Let the kids watch Duck Dynasty. Grandpa Phil will keep them straight on gays.
Why don’t Catholics just “pull an Amish” and withdraw from the world completely?
That way, we wouldn’t support anything.
Anonymous hider, Where is you’re true charity and desire to not come across as a piece of soggy limp white bread soaking for hours in a bowl of cold milk? Why are you now insulting the Amish? The Amish do NOT have the fullness of the truth yet they have for the most part maintained their identity, values, morals and beliefs to such a degree that the entertainment industry thought it would be fascinating to view those few who have left those beliefs. The TV show is called Breaking Amish.
The Catholic Church has the fullness of truth. Those who stand for nothing will fall for everything and by the looks and realities of the terrible devastation in the vineyard, many have fallen for everything that the world is selling. How many Catholic shepherds and Catholics *broke away* in their schism of the hearts when they decided to disobey and ignore Humanae Vitae? This is NOT being in “full communion” with Rome. This was joining communion with the culture of death and the world now shows this to be true. Mass fraternal killings are now an everyday event. The use of artificial contraception gave way to abortion, the homosexual agenda and euthanasia. It is the Fullness of Truths of the Catholic Church that many within have *broken away* from and to date there is no particular interest in watching what has been quietly been taking place in the hearts of many for years.
Catherine, thank you for your remarks. I concur!
You are welcome Tracy. God bless you!
Anonymous, do you mean “Bad company ruins good morals” – St. Paul,
1 Cor 15:33?
or
“As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self condemned” – St. Paul, Titus 3:10-11
If the USA continues on it’s current path, it will be like Sodom and Gamorrah.
Murdering over 54 million innocent unborn babies; contraception, divorce from a valid marriage with a civil remarriage (adultery); sodomy marriage,
fornication (living together without marriage; soon to be supporting euthanasia: supporting drug use starting with marijuana to dull the mind and promote a lack of moral inhabitions; billions being spent each year on sexually transmitted deseases mostly due to sexual sins; money pressures from the weathly (like Disney Corp) for sodomy approval ?.
I would not take a child there, at least not here in California, from what I have heard is going on there. It is not totally deviant — yet — but a lot of tattooes, piercings and hand holding of same-sex couples are going on there on certain days. If it keeps up, you can look for it to get worse. Some of the Disney movies for children have sexual innuendo in them now. Even one of my more “progressive” relatives complained how bad some of them have gotten.
Tattoos!
Piercings!
Holding hands!
This is PRECISELY why the burqa should be worn — by men and women!
It is not funny, Anonymous, This seems to be one of the most destructive generations I have lived through — to themselves — beautiful young women destroying their arms and legs with huge tattoos up and down them; men with multiple piercings, even on their faces; cutters (young people who cut their bodies) and those who destroy them with drugs and sex change operations. What on earth has happen to some of our young people?
When the laughter fades along with the youth of this current generation, Ann T, the sagging and fading of said tattoos, the gaping of past piercings, and the internal effects of drug and alcohol usage will come to roost. Those who survive and learn will warn their children’s children. Some won’t even have to say a word as their very presence will serve as a cautionary tale.
We humans are some stubborn, hard learners.
Yeah, peter, we know that. The Civil Rights organizations have told the truth about them.
?. Muslim men wouldn’t be caught dead in one. The thought that women need to cover their faces while men don’t is totally foreign to me.
Part of thatcomment referred to the burka. They seem creepy to me.
The Family Research Council is one of the great Truth Telling Organizations de-bunking the Abomination today, and their research is thorough and compelling in its honesty – which is just one reason whey they are hated so much by the Gaystapo.
As for the Bona Fide Radical Homosex Trolls who want to sell us all down south with their intellectually impoverished hate propaganda – FRC Stands Against Such Evil…
Which is why so many of the Trolls here (and elsewhere in our Bought and Paid for ‘free press’) seek so desperately to trash them.
Want to know more about what FRC Really Stands for – then Check out the source for yourself and don’t rely on recycled Troll droppings for ‘news’:
SEE http://www.FRC.org
The Happiest place just got ‘Happy-er’, and now the Boy Scouts must truly roll down that slippery slope towards the pit of Pederast ‘tolerance’ that they started earlier, and Pander or Perish as the Gaystapo Demands.
Plans are afoot wind Walt’s Grave with electric cable & magnets, so that as he spins they get even more ‘happy’ energy for free.
Remember – There are Catholic / Christian Alternatives available for All of Good Moral Character.
“Disney to end Boy Scouts funding over gay policy
LOS ANGELES – AP – The Walt Disney Company will cut funding to the Boy Scouts of America beginning in 2015 because of a policy that bans gay adult leaders in the organization.
The Boy Scouts organization is “disappointed” by the decision, which will affect the organization’s ability to serve children, Deron Smith, a Boy Scouts spokesman, said in a statement Sunday…
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/03/02/disney-to-end-boy-scouts-funding-over-gay-policy/?intcmp=obnetwork
If Americans are upset about the behaviour of various corporations in supporting immorality, then they should boycott those corporations and make their objections very clear to the people who make the decisions in those corporations. If enough decent Americans boycott and object and make their objections widely known, a definite impact on the bottom line of those businesses will occur, and that’s where the power lies. Most people will grumble and complain, but they will not take the actions needed to cause change. If American Catholics and their Bishops would act as a bloc, and put their money and their votes where their mouths are, we could change this country profoundly. Imagine 80,000,000 Catholics voting and acting against abortion, gay “marriage”, pornography and creeping Socialism. Sweeping changes would be possible. Catholics need to unite against these mortal issues.
hosemonkey,
Real Catholics probably already unite against those mortal issues; however what are we going to do about people like my professed Catholic friend who says when I object to a movie because of who and what is starring in that movie: “you need to put the actors and actresses who “star” in the movies in perspective with the story of the movie and go see the movie!”?
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth, I know what you mean, but we cannot boycott everything. There have been some wonderful movies that have had actors or actresses who led very bad lives. It is a judgment call for each person — if the movie is a decent one but all the actors live extremely bad lives, then maybe it is best not to go, but that is not usually the case, and we need to encourage Hollywood to make decent things.
On the other hand, many of us are choosing to go to movies put out by Christians and others who have good moral values. St. Luke’s Production and Quo Vadis are two that I know.
That is Quo Vadis Catholic Theatre Company in the Bay Area.
Anne T I agree with you.
hosemonkey, “Imagine 80,000,000 Catholics voting and acting AGAINST abortion, gay marriage, pornography and creeping Socialism. Sweeping changes would be possible!”
Someone should put those lyrics into the form of a song! :)
Don’t let the homosexualists on this forum mislead you. Below is a link to the Family Research Council article – citing 76 footnotes to external scientific sources – proving that homosexuals, despite being only 2% of the population, make up 33% of all child sex abusers.
https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3
Lol. I had to look up ‘homosexualist’. Apparently it means ‘homosexual’ (which I’m not, btw.)
Footnotes mean nothing. You can find heavily annotated research from the Eugenics movement, or centuries worth of the “science” of racial superiority, or tobacco industry studies concluding cigarettes are good for you. If the conclusion is intentionally deceptive, or simply false, it’s false.
The test with the FRC would be peer review, and you’re not going to find it, because it’s not science, it’s political advocacy.
No, “homosexualist” means one who celebrates and exalts homosexuality. You know who they are, right?
no one knows what homosexualist means because it is a made up term by those who hate gay people
Homophobic = Made up term by homosexual activists who reject God’s revealed truth.
Definition of lemming …….A person who blindly follows others.
Lemming is probably the perfect analogy to use here; you’re drawing on a myth perpetuated by deceptive footage staged by Disney, no less.
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=56
Catherine, I would just leave you with an interesting thought: Homosexuality exists naturally in many species and in many human cultures. Homophobia, on the other hand, must be taught. It does not occur naturally.
There is a natural instinct to ostracize that which is inherently abnormal in the wild, YFC. Nurturing and charity for those who are perceived as different or weak is more the exception and that which is promoted by Christian principles.
There is a distinction, however, as that nurturing and charity is supposed to be directed at the individual, not in glorifying the particular abnormality, deficiency, or objectively sinful inclination that is not good for the society as a whole.
The 76 footnotes to external scientific sources cited in the FRC article mean nothing to you because you never let facts get in the way of your opinions.
Here’s a 2002 letter from the author of (the still extant) material cited in footnote #5:
June 10, 2002
Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.
FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL
801 G Street N.W.
Washington, DC 2001
Dear Dr. Dailey:
On the web site http://www.frc.org you reference my work in your article on “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse”. I am writing you to object to my name and research being associated in any way, shape, or form to lend legitimacy to the views proposed in your paper.
If you are, in fact, familiar with my research, you must realize that my studies have indicated that homosexual males pose less risk of sexual harm to children (both male and female)—from both an absolute and a percentage incidence rate—than heterosexual males. Your statement that “the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners” appears to come from the assumption that if an adult male is attracted to a male child, this adult male’s sexual orientation is ipso facto homosexual.
Since your report, in my view, misrepresents the facts of what we know about this matter from scientific investigation, and does not indicate that my studies on this topic reach conclusions diametrically opposed to yours; I would appreciate your removing any reference to my work in your paper lest it appear to the reader that my research supports your views.
Yours truly,
A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D.
Nice try, but Groth was cited only one time in the FRC article, and it was in footnote 6, NOT in footnote 5, as you claim.
More, Groth wasn’t cited for anything to do with whether homosexuals are more prone to child sex abuse; rather he was cited for the simple proposition that “some authors now believe that boys may be sexually abused as commonly as girls (Groth, 1978; O’Brien, 1980 [6].”
As such, your purported “letter” is at best irrelevant if not a forgery.
Correction: footnote 6.
The letter was first published in the Washington Blade and disseminated widely by the Human Rights Campaign. While both have an identifiable bias, there is no evidence to suggest it’s fabricated.
And it’s hardly irrelevant. For one thing, it undermines your earlier assertion that the mere existence of annotation implies credibility. If citations are used to support conclusions contrary to, or outside the scope of research cited (as elaborated more fully in the UC Davis piece), they are merely name-dropping, duplicitous dressing feigning the aesthetic of legitimacy.
Also: the context in which the Groth reference appears makes the suggestion that abuse is even more widespread and disproportionate than documented, in support of a specious greater central premise that the research contradicts. Any reference that suggests otherwise would be objectionable.
It’s telling that despite an explicit disavowal and request to be removed from citation, the author’s name still appears 12 years on. It’s apparent that validity under scrutiny isn’t even presumed necessary. Demagoguery is about emotional impact, and this is obviously a successful example.
It’s sad to me to see such willingness to accept deceitful, demonizing propaganda. Even if it represents a favorable world view, it’s propaganda.
It is also apparent that the footnotes might have been adjusted over the years, added or subracted, so that when we reference to a numbered footnote on the web, we have to understand that things like the number are malleable. Scollian’s refutations stand.
Wrong.
The issue is whether homosexuals are more prone to sexually abuse children than are heterosexuals. The FRC article cites 76 footnotes to extraneous scientific sources showing that indeed they are significantly more prone.
Of those 76 footnotes in the FRC article, your “Groth” was cited only one time, in only one footnote (footnote 6). And, what “Groth” was cited for in that footnote had nothing to do with the issue at hand, viz., whether homosexuals are more prone to sexually abuse children (cf. n. 6 – “some authors now believe that boys may be sexually abused as commonly as girls (Groth, 1978; O’Brien, 1980 [6]”)).
This is typical of homosexualists: using red herrings to obfuscate and divert attention from the facts.
Probably pointless to belabor the point, but…
“With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that “the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls” – doesn’t hold up.”
https://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
“the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.”
Those who are supporting a boycott of Disneyworld, Disneyland, and all Disney products are correct.
Do not take your children or grandchildren to Disney, and not do purchase Disney products.
“All those who are willing to be saved through the cross will find salvation there. But those who desire to be saved without it will perish miserably. There is no salvation except in this cross.” (St. Francis de Sales, Doctor of the Church)
“Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had yourselves washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” (1 Cor. 6:9-11)
“Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.’ They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church)
“Homosexual persons are called to chastity.” (Pontifical Council for the Family)
Ways of the world do not produce good fruit. Lets pray for the conversion of all sinners and let it begin with self.
“[A]ll striving against nature is in vain.” (Pope Leo XIII, “Rerum Novarum”, 1891)
“[A] thing is said to be natural, if it agrees with nature, and unnatural, if it disagrees.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church and “greatest theologian in the history of the Church”)
“[C]opulation with an undue sex, male with male, or female with female, as the Apostle states (Romans 1:27)…is called the vice of sodomy.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church and “greatest theologian in the history of the Church”)
“[C]ertain special sins are said to be against nature; thus contrary to sexual intercourse, which is natural to all animals, is unisexual lust, which has received the special name of the unnatural crime.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church and “greatest theologian in the history of the Church”)
“juergensen” and “Fr. Karl” are correct: Almost everyone loves Disney, from its 1950′s TV show, to Disneylands everywhere, it is as much an American iconic brand as it anything, even Coca-Cola. However, management of Disney has a darker purpose than entertainment and that is the advancement of the LBGT political and social agenda. Morever, America’s bishops, a truly cowardly lot (with some, but few, exceptions) say and do nothing about this. And how can they? As a classic vampire movie, “Fright Night” (1985) showed, when a crucifix failed to repell the blood-sucker, “You have to have faith for that to work, Mr. Vincent.” We are controlled by an “Office of Bishops” that demonstrates members with little faith (although they have many, many demands for “obedience”). And they simply detest anything Traditional, the most recent example being the overwhelming, and unnecessary, response by Bishop Olson (Ft. Worth, TX), outlawing use of the TLM by Fisher-More College. Bishops simply despise Summorum Pontificum and have refused to obey it, as well as its instruction, Universae Ecclesiae (yet they demand obedience). And, with the at least apparent disinterest by Pope Francis in much that is Traditional, the long-knives have come out: Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate; Fisher-More college; where next to cut anything Traditional? Too bad that we cannot all have bishops like Bishop Morlino (Madison, WI), or Cardinal Raymond Burke.
I prefer the modest simplicity of Pope Francis to the ostentatious finery of Cardinal Burke. I will say Cardinal Burke probably never had an impure thought about a woman. Pope Francis worked as a bouncer as a young man so he saw more of that part of life than Cardinal Burke did.
Just a Ploy – Houda Thunk It??? Ahem.
Boston St. Pat’s Parade rescinds invite to gay group, says application was a ‘ploy’
BOSTON, March 6, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The organizers of Boston’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade have rescinded their controversial invitation to a homosexual advocacy group, saying they believe the group’s application was a “ploy” made under “false pretenses….
“In the footsteps of St. Patrick, [Immaculate Heart of Mary School] does not condone and will not appear to condone the homosexual lifestyle,” Brother Thomas Dalton, the school’s principal, said in a statement reported by the Telegram…
“We must stand firm with the Church which states in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, promulgated by Pope John Paul II, that ‘homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity’ and ‘are intrinsically disordered,’ ” Brother Dalton said.
The parade has historically upheld a “no sexual orientation” policy, meaning they bar participants from promoting homosexuality…
But at a meeting Sunday night, the organizers said, “it was made clear to us that the LGBT Veterans for Equality do not have 20 United States Veterans who wish to march. Rather, they presented only one supposed Veteran and a group of others carrying rainbow flags. When asked about a Color Guard, their loan Veteran replied that he wasn’t sure he could supply any more Veterans willing to march.”
– Brother Dalton explained that homosexuals flagrantly trying to push their way into the faith-based, family-oriented parade is not new.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/boston-st.-pats-parade-rescinds-invite-to-gay-group-says-application-was-a?
Like the Larry Brinkin Pederast Posse in power in the Demicrat Party, those who would use and abuse Children to coerce Mandatory Pandering to Intrinsic Evil…
Love to Troll this and similar boards Anonymously, sometimes acting as a committee taking turns to shovel ‘truthiness’ in place of reason based piety – because it works, as in it pulls otherwise legit posters in to endless exchanges of ‘happy’ drivel…
But Always using the politically sanitized and gaily misleading euphemisms that are the Lies at the heart of their scam.
The Attack on the South Boston St. Patrick’s Day parade by the Gaystapo is a great example -0f the scam, and of persons of integrity and courage standing up to it.
For as Edmund Burke said: “All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
URGE VETERANS TO REFUSE DEAL (Via Americans for Truth)
Boston Catholic Activist Urges Irish St. Patrick’s Day Parade Group Not to Give in to Pro-Homosexual Pressure
Today’s ‘Catholic Voice’ news paper for the Oakland Diocese had a big front page article about “Diocesan scouts honored with religious awards” (BOth Boy & Girl Scouts).
However – as a former Life Scout I cannot any longer support an organization that allows those pushing intrinsically disordered behaviors (even if not acted upon) being given access to Catholic Children.
Although the Boy Scouts caved on a vitally important point, the partnership of ‘girl scouts’ with Pro-Abortion / Homosex activist groups is even more disturbing.
I know of one organization that seeks to promote Catholic Virtues in a ‘sort of scout’ organization ( the “Scouting” term is itself generally copyright protected) – but have heard or read nothing about it in ‘Catholic’ Publications.
Welcome To St. George Scouting
The scouting programs sponsored by St. George Catholic Church are a ministry based on the programs of the Boy Scouts of America and Girls Scouts of America. Their goal is to teach self reliance and leadership skills that will last a lifetime to the young men and women who take part in the program.
https://stgeorgescouting.org/