The following comes from a May 22 story on NewsBusters.org.
At some point, left-wing Catholics should just drop the “Catholic” part because, really, why bother? They clearly have more in common with their ideological fellow travelers than their co-religionists. Case in point, the National Catholic Reporter’s assertion that “Climate change!” has become the new rallying cry of the pro-life community.
In a recent editorial, NCR, which calls itself “one of the few independent journalistic outlets for Catholics and others,” announced that, “Climate Change is Church’s No. 1 Pro-Life Issue.” The editorial staff warned of the “enormous” problem and urged, “The Catholic church should become a major player in educating the public to the scientific data and in motivating people to act for change.” Strangely enough, the piece didn’t once mention abortion.
NCR acknowledged that while the science isn’t yet perfect, “it is long past time that the question turn from whether human activity is causing climate change to what do we do about it.” The staff heavily referenced the 2014 National Climate Assessment, an overwrought and over-hyped work of eco-alarmism created to justify the Obama administration’s current and future regulatory actions.
But the pro-life rhetoric appeared farther in, as NCR highlighted: “If there is a certain wisdom in the pro-life assertion that other rights become meaningless if the right to life is not upheld, then it is reasonable to assert that the right to life has little meaning if the earth is destroyed to the point where life becomes unsustainable.”
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“Strangely enough, the piece didn’t once mention abortion.”
That’s because most everyone there votes for the Party of Abortion and Sodomy … and receives the Eucharist on Sundays.
Yes. Under our Leftist pope, as long as they’re not part of the FFI and don’t have any orthodox “drift”, they’ll be fine!
To Augustine: Are you Catholic? You seem to doubt the Holy Spirit’s choice. Is it possible (or simply obvious) that the pope, God grant him every blessing, isn’t “leftist,” as you put it, but rather that you are “rightist,” and far from the Spirit’s influence? You are in my prayers, at this very moment, for conversion to the Spirit’s will.
Anonymous, God can also allow for the election of a bad leader as a punishment for an unfaithful people. The idea that the Pope, just because he is the Pope, cannot be weak and/or have incorrect leanings just by virtue of his election, is not necessarily a Catholic perspective. The Holy Ghost’s promise is to uphold the Church, not keep the Pope from every having a potentially bad leaning.
People must work in union with the Spirit. Assuming that everyone at the conclave worked in union with the Spirit in good will is a denial of free will.
That is not to say that Pope Francis is bad and/or evil, but just to say that he still has free will and can exercise it. He is capable of sin just as any man is. But back to Augustine’s point, if there is such a shortage of priests and religious – and there is – why stifle a *thriving* community such as the FFI because Catholic Tradition is now viewed as divisive?
The community was growing rapidly and cleaving to that which is Catholic. That which has formed saints throughout centuries. Could that not be the Spirit moving where He wills instead of where men would will Him to go?
Anon Do you think Pope Alexander III was “choice” of the Holy Spirit???
NCR said “The Science is not perfect”? No kidding! Anyway, maybe NCR hasn’t heard that the latest lingo is not “climate change” but “climate disruption”. :(
As many of us know, the “National Catholic REPORTER” was CONDEMNED in 1968 by Bishop Helmsing.
In 2013 the current Diocese Bishop reiterated this.
The NC Reporter fraudulently pretends to be “Catholic”, and refuses to remove the name Catholic from their name – to suck in the unsuspecting.
https://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Cofv ;
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/colorado-bishop-national-catholic-reporter-is-an-embarrassment-to-the-catho/ ;
https://catholickey.org/2013/01/25/the-bishops-role-in-fostering-the-mission-of-the-catholic-media/ .
The NC Reporter does not accept or acknowledge the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” (which contains the Doctrine of the Faith) – because it would show them to be the liars that they are.
See ” OBAMA’s COUNTERFEIT CATHOLICS ”
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/
Watch the video, but also check out the written documentation.
The REPORTER wants to draw the clergy into something that is NOT their SPECIALTY or area of EXPERTISE
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It is clear the Reporter does not care about the Doctrine of the Faith in the CCC which clearly states that the Bishops’s first task to teach the Faith by spreading the Gospel. (CCC 888)
CCC: ” 898 By reason of their special vocation it belongs to the LAITY to seek the kingdom of God by engaging in temporal affairs and directing them according to God’s will. . . .
It pertains to them in a special way so to illuminate and order ALL TEMPORAL THINGS with which they are closely associated that these may always be effected and grow according to Christ and maybe to the glory of the Creator and Redeemer.”
The Reporter seems to be looking for issues – gearing up for the next elections to avoid the real issues of abortion (purposeful murder of about 1 million Innocents each year in the USA.
(The Reporter supports the LCWR, NETWORK, and Nuns on the BUS – which are all part of the same bunch of heretics and schismatics.)
How exactly climate change denial a religious issue? Bizarre.
The world doesn’t need to become uninhabitable; only unstable for major consequences to life. The 2010-1012 Somali drought killed 260,000 people. Mostly children. Look at the political climate there. Likewise, the drought in Syria has been a major contributing factor to the civil war.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/10/drought-helped-caused-syrias-war-will-climate-change-bring-more-like-it/
How about rise in infectious diseases?
https://www.who.int/globalchange/climate/summary/en/index5.html
It doesn’t take much to see that there consequences of droughts, famines, water shortages, loss of agricultural land, mass extinctions, rise in cataclysmic weather events… the necessity for human migration en masse… is going to predicate wars, political extremism, starvation…
There is an overwhelming body of evidence as to why and how it is happening.
Is it just easier to dismiss it as “alarmism” and blame it on God’s retribution on people you don’t like? Makes no sense at all.
There is no proof that “CLIMATE CHANGE” (aka “GLOBAL WARMING”) is not merely cyclical.
https://www.forbes.comlarrybell/2013/07/02/even-the-new-york-times-has-chilled-on-global-warming-someone-please-tell-obama/
When some parts of the world got colder than ever, the supporters of “Global Warming” had to change the name to “Climate Change” because their credibility was in the toilet.
I’m sure they will change the name again, when science again proves them wrong.
Until proven, it is not the role of the Church to support or not support any unproven theories.
(Be very careful in quoting government agencies since they all ultimately fall under the iron thumb of OBAMA (including the jobs of those in charge)
Let us not forget OBAMA’s buddies at SOLANDRA either – costing the taxpayers $530 Million dollars when they went bankrupt a year after receiving the loan guarantee.
God will determine when/if the world needs changing – not human beings.
Here is an interesting article regarding the Polar Bears from Natural News: “Global Warming Fraud: Iconic Polar Bear On Melting Ice Cap A Hoax” https://www.naturalnews.com/033370_polar_bars_scientific_fraud.html
Left wing, or cafeteria Catholics, are not really Catholic. They may have been baptized into the true faith, but they have lost it and have mutated into another heretical sect. To be a Catholic, you must believe ALL the truths which the Catholic Church has always taught. When you start denying divinely revealed dogma, then you have apostatized., and are no longer Catholic. Before the Vatican Council you would have been excommunicated, but now you just hang around and try to destroy the true faith which others still possess. The enemies of the Church are within, as well as outside the Church.
Father Karl,
strangely enough, right wing, aka cafeteria Catholics, are not really Catholic. They may have been baptized into the true faith, but they have lost it and have mutated into another heretical sect. To be a Catholic, you must believe ALL the truths which the Catholic Church has always taught – not just that which belongs to the right wing agenda.
What truths are being denied by the ‘right’ wing Catholics, Peter? Just curious.
Strangely enough St. Peter leftwing Catholics like LCWR are known for their dissent. I think the time has finally come for our respective sides to our own ways.
Thank you Father Karl.
Liberals are the only creatures on earth that think the weather can be and should be controlled….They will not be happy until they have complete control over our lives, where to live, what to drive, what to eat, what we can say, how we can say it….
Canisius, you are so correct! If the government can regulate carbon emissions then those who hold power within the government can control everything and everyone! The Founding Fathers of the USA drafted a Constitution and Bill of Rights with the awareness that there would always be those among us who would stop at nothing in order to have this kind of control and power over the masses. They understood that an all powerful centralized government would be disastrous to freedom. The Leftist call to reduce “carbon emissions” is a sinister plot indeed!
The National catholic Reporter is once again proclaiming a false religion, in this case the religion of man-made-global-warming-that-requires-action. Like many false religions, this is about greed for both money and power, though I’m sure that many acolytes of this false religion are sincere believers. Why is this religion false? 1. There is serious doubt as to whether the planet is really undergoing a significant warming trend. 2. Even if it were, there is no evidence that this is caused by human activity. The earth has been far warmer in recorded history, and this has nothing to do with human activity, but rather solar and planetary activity. 3. Even if it were true that human activity was causing global warming, it is doubtful whether anything respectful of human life could be done to stop it. 4. Finally, even if something could be done, it is highly doubtful that it would be worth the tremendous cost involved. Global warming, if it were true, is not necessarily a bad thing. Some regions might be harmed, but others might be helped. Restricting carbon dioxide emissions is harmful and sinful.
Wow, you know I was going to pass up this thread and your comment, Brian, in which you simply with the sweep of a hand ignore or contradict mountains of evidence that excess human carbon emissions from the burning of fossil fuels is changing climate in disastrous ways. But then you topped that off with this zinger: “Restricting carbon dioxide emissions is harmful and sinful.”. Where, oh where, do you get any evidence whatsoever that EITHER of these conclusions is true. Restricting carbon dioxide emissions is harmful? Really, how so? Restricting them is sinful? According to which tenet of Christian faith?
Liberals want to restrict carbon dioxide emissions, ie breathing… at their very base liberals detest human life and will make any excuse to see it limited, and at very core they answer to the Father of Lies who hates humanity, they would kill as many human as possible to see a tree live…. Mountain of evidence.. BS… your global warming religion is based on computer models and projections, there is not an iota of empirical evidence not one. the Global warming scam is based on the lefts need to control human by any mean necessary.
Canisius, your own statements damned themselves. “Liberals want to restrict carbon dioxide emissions, ie breathing… at their very base liberals detest human life and will make any excuse to see it limited”
Trust me, liberals don’t want to restrict your breathing, we just want you to start breathing!
No YFC liberals like all totalitarians want to control everything in the end that is what the Left is all about…
YFC, you said that liberals “just want you to start breathing”. Hmm that is a curious statement since liberals have demonstrated that they want no reduction of those who are killed in the womb before they can take their first breath.
Control WHAT exactly? Government controls ALL KINDS OF THINGS, including the federal right to regulate INTERSTATE commerce. If you send your Carbon dioxide over my state borders, as a result of your commerce, you better believe the feds have a right to regulate it.
We don’t want our coastlines from being flooded by rising tides, because you spewed your ignorance of the Constitution and your obnoxious emissions over our boarders.
Your Former Catholic:
You are free to believe your “mountains of evidence”, just as you are free to believe that homosexual acts are not sinful. Don’t let the truth get in your way! Nevertheless, I’ll briefly answer your questions: Restricting carbon dioxide emissions is harmful to the economy. It kills jobs and raises energy prices, both of which disproportionately affect poorer citizens. Here is a recent study, one of many: https://www.uschamber.com/press-release/energy-institute-report-finds-potential-new-epa-carbon-regulations-will-damage-us. Since there is no clear benefit, this harm to all, but especially to the poor, in itself is sinful. I could list other ways this is sinful, but I’ll leave it at this: “Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience” (CCC 1849), and the justification for restricting carbon dioxide emissions is an offense against reason and truth.
The US Chamber of Commerce has no concern for the long term viability of anything. It represents the interests of entities whose only concern is next quarter’s (maybe next year’s) share prices. If Florida is underwater in 20 years, or all species that don’t have a stake in next year’s futures market die off, that is of no concern.
Climate change denial there is simply a strategy. One would assume whoever wrote that press release knows better, but simply doesn’t care. If you look at the world through a lens where immediate personal gain always trumps consequences that others have to deal with, you’ll always arrive at similar positions.
Any impediment to profitability (labor laws, environmental regulation) is always met with the same hollow refrain (job/economy killing hysteria)… It simply shows why regulation is necessary. Left unchecked, such interests are profoundly destructive.
Siollan, :) did you know that Mark Levin, a constitutional conservative and tea party supporter and radio talk show host is on the SAME SIDE as YOU with regards to the US Chamber of Commerce?! He calls them the US Chamber of Crony Capitalists.
https://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/james-beattie/levin-us-chamber-commerce-about-cronyism-not-capitalism
Conservative syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin also agrees with you!
https://michellemalkin.com/2014/01/24/the-u-s-chamber-of-commerce-vs-america/
How funny. Not people I’d expect to agree with, and their objections are a bit different, but it’s interesting to see…
Siollan, the Liberal media is lying to us, which is why I have tired of listening to them. Here is a list of a few more individuals, which may surprise you, who have been strong opponents of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce: former Governor Sarah Palin, and Senators Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Pat Toomey and Marco Rubio. https://www.conservativehq.com/article/12950-sarah-palin-and-senators-lee-cruz-and-paul-fight-crony-capitalism
Brian-
Surely you can do better:
1) You cite a press release from an organization that represents right wing businesses, not a study as in a scientific and peer reviewed study. and
2) Because the Chamber of Commerce disagrees make sit sinful? Really? Maybe you saw the tables get turned at the temple???
If you didn’t perhaps I can point you in the direction of a few good films. Or the Sacred Scriptures.
And anything you cite YFC cannot be trusted as it will come from leftist groups with their own agenda of control…
I cited nothing, Canisius. Yet you have no response to my substantive comments atYour Fellow Catholic says: May 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm
The only thing you brought to the table were ad hominem comments about me.
Global warming is not a good thing. It just so happens that those who are hurt by it are the poorest – like those in Sub-Saharan Africa, for instance. The consumption of the rich causes real and documented harm to the poor. This should be of a concern to all Catholics and any with well-formed consciences.
Global Warming (aks Climate Change) is merely a theory and has not been proven.
It can be a bad thing when used by capitalists and communists to control people for no real reason at all – except control.
It can be a bad thing when the cronies of various politicians (including Obama and his Solyndra buddies) waste tax dollars that could be used to help people in need.
Yes, we do have an obligation to help those who are unable to help themselves. But we have to quit wasting tax dollars on diversions that are unproven.
Brian, you have common sense on your side, a rare commodity these days and certainly politically incorrect! We are being oppressed by people who are relying on computer models! It has been proven that computers, as great as they are, do not even come close to the human brain! Brian, I’ll bet on your common sense any day!
It used to be that in science you had scientific hypotheses and scientific proofs. We are told that we are throwing our money away if we take, let’s say, a certain nutritional supplement if it hasn’t yet been scientifically proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it will improve one’s health even if antidotal evidence clearly demonstrates that it will.
Yet here we are demanded to completely change our lives, and open our pocket books based on antidotal evidence that the earth will warm to disastrous levels in 100 years! Of course, if the scientific hypothesis proves wrong, none of us will be here to protest! What a scam!!!!!!
The lamesteam media predicts Record Low Turnout in the CA Primary, which means that those who can be bothered to exercise the Franchise bought so dearly with the sacrifice of Patriots over two centuries – will be able to have a greater influence than the ‘who cares crowd’.
Catholics who claim to care about Anti-Catholic Misandry in Govt. – but cant be bothered to vote, are just wasting their time, and ours.
Here is a site with some Insights: https://www.electionforum.org/
The following was posted on CNSnews.com on May 13th:
The world has “500 days to avoid climate chaos,” French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said alongside Secretary of State John Kerry at the State Department on Tuesday.
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/french-foreign-minister-we-have-500-days-avoid-climate-chaos
The video of this and other comments made by the French Foreign Minister as well as John Kerry is posted along with the transcript of their comments.
The worst year for tornadoes in the USA was 1979 – historical fact.
The “Global Warming” “Climate Change” group does not take ACCURATE historical weather fact into consideration. Weather is cyclical.
In fact since “Global Warming” is a joke, they had to change their nameto “Climate Change” to allow for cold weather as well.
“Climate Change” can mean anything – rainy one day, sunny the next.