The Dhillon Law Group and LiMandri & Jonna LLP, in conjunction with the Center for American Liberty, filed a motion today for leave to add a claim for punitive damages to Chloe Cole’s complaint against the Permanente Medical Group, Kaiser Foundation Hospitals, and the doctors who fraudulently coerced her into a medical gender transition when she was 13-17 years old.
The following comes from the memorandum in support of the motion.
“Chloe’s experience is a perfect example of what happens when social and political ideologies drive medical models of care instead of scientific evidence. When Chloe arrived in June 2017 and said she was transgender, the appropriate medical sequence of events was assumed. There was no gender evaluation.
“A simple request of “Tell me the story” would have unearthed that the origin of her gender dysphoria was feelings of inadequacy about her breast size and the shape of her shoulders and hips. It would have included knowing about how she had been influenced on social media, and what her contacts there had told her. That would have led to a discussion of what she had learned that was valid and what was unreasonable pressure from people who did not know her and likely had their own political interests at heart.
“There was no discussion of core gender identity and how she had felt being a girl up to age 11, prior to online pressure. There was no discussion about gender role behavior and the style of a boy or girl she saw herself as. There was no discussion about her awareness of her own sexuality. Since she
sees herself as androphilic, a discussion of the experience of transmen in the gay
male community would have been appropriate.
“Instead, the moment she said she was transgender, it was assumed that no further evaluation was necessary. There is no evidence that the person she saw for her first evaluation (Dr. Asulyan) had any experience in evaluating transgender children or adolescents, and her clinical notes would indicate she
didn’t. She simply put Chloe on a medical conveyor belt, and before the next session had already made an inquiry about an appointment for Chloe for evaluation for puberty blockers and hormones.
“The first time Chloe saw a true gender specialist, Dr. Watson, was for the evaluation of appropriateness for mastectomy in July 2019. Dr. Watson saw the changes Chloe had made, and that she had been
living as male. Dr. Watson did not know or question that the original diagnosis was
made by Chloe, not a gender specialist following a careful evaluation.
“As an institution, Kaiser is well aware of that there are serious risks and critical knowledge
gaps in this area. In Dec. 2017, Kaiser published a study of 6456 transgender patients at Kaiser
from 2006 to 2014, in which Kaiser admits as follows: “Critical knowledge gaps include the effect
of HT [hormone therapy] and surgery on gender dysphoria (the feeling of distress when natal sex
does not match gender identity) and other mental health issues, hematological side effects of HT
and risk of cardiovascular disease, metabolic or endocrine disorders and cancer following hormonal
or surgical gender affirmation.”
“Despite being well aware of and publishing a study identifying these critical risks and knowledge gaps, Kaiser follows a policy of doing whatever the patient asks in this area without disclosing any of these risks….”
From the Center for American Liberty
Thank you for fixing the headline.
Abusing a minor (or anyone) should not be tolerated.
A confused 13-year-old (or any child) should not be making life-altering decisions and be manipulated by the gender ideology lobby.
“She said she was transgender”…That is from her lawyers.
Who is responsible when the patient gives the doctors wrong information?
I feel like this girl is being used.
Is she being paid? Are they hoping for a big settlement?
When you read her statements about how she liked the attention and positive reinforcement of transitioning, it feels like she is doing the same thing now-getting those needs met.
They set her up for a lifetime of unneeded medication and surgery. No one can change his or her sex. Male or female is throughout ones DNA, with very rare exceptions. It is bad enough, but sometimes necessary, to have to have a mastectomy to cure cancer as one’s body is never the same. It is a horrible abuse to take off perfectly healthy breast tissue, especially on the underaged who have no idea of the consequences.
Be careful what you ask for because you might get it.
She was confused, used and abused. Do you think a 13-year-old child should be able make irreversible, lifelong medical decisions?
She was harmed physically, mentally and emotionally.
If a 12-year-old says he is a giraffe and wants to live in a zoo, is it okay to stretch his neck and put him in a wildlife enclosure?
Children are often confused at times. They’re immature. That’s why we don’t let them drive, use firearms, get tattoos, drink alcoholic beverages, go to porn stores or vote (among other things).
That’s why the parents have to give permission.
Wow…blame the victim. Stay off rape jury trials.
Why? Because I would not assume guilt?
No, because you’d blame the victim. It’s perpetrators, not victims, who should be punished.
Why are you saying victim and perpetrator?
This is not a criminal case.
It is a civil case.
Kaiser has asked for dismissal saying it is a frivolous lawsuit.
Kaiser did not do anything illegal.
Chloe and her lawyers are on TV and testifying before state legislatures trying to make it illegal and in some states it has been made illegal.
I do not think at the time that Chloe had her treatment that it was illegal anywhere.
Chloe was given the treatment that is given to transgender teens because she told them she was transgender. Chloe wants to change the standard of care. She says that their standard of care was deficient.
I agree with her but I don’t think she is going to win the lawsuit.
You can disapprove of gender affirming care for minors (or adults, too) and still evaluate claims of medical malpractice rationally.
“Transgender people are the most celebrated subset of this community. I saw the unbelievable amounts of praise and attention they got online and subconsciously, I yearned to have a piece of it.
With every milestone in my medical transition, I was given more and more attention and celebration. It was the ultimate high. Even in person, I got more attention. Girls would have crushes on me and I would have people come up to me in the hallways asking to make friends and it was unprecedented for me. I felt like a celebrity.
Being a kid, I didn’t know just how superficial these relationships were until they all suddenly abandoned me just for struggling to become who I am. ”
https://personandidentity.com/detransitioner-chloe-cole-spoke-out-against-gender-affirming-health-care/
I feel sorry for the poor souls who are fed to the gender transition monster. If they were able to find a shoulder to cry on, perhaps they could have been saved. It is unfortunate for children that love can no longer be found in this world.
The pope is right that transgenderism is evil.
No. He did not say that.
Pope Francis called it “diabolical” and “terrible” and one example of ideological colonialism. He probably didn’t call it “evil” because he was speaking in Italian. Are you insisting upon that one specific word? Give credit where credit is due. You’re not testifying at his canonization.
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/popes-francis-again-confronts-gender-ideology
He was talking about gender theory, not people being transgender.
Of course, he was not condemning people with gender dysphoria. He was condemning a diabolical ideology that denies science, natural law and divine revelation and harms people who need help. As the first poster above said, the Pope said transgenderism is evil, not trans persons.
Gender theory is not transgenderism.
Although to affirm that situations like that of Chloe are not approved by the Pope, I quote from Dignitas Infinita:
Teaching about the need to respect the natural order of the human person, Pope Francis affirmed that “creation is prior to us and must be received as a gift. At the same time, we are called to protect our humanity, and this means, in the first place, accepting it and respecting it as it was created.” It follows that any sex-change intervention, as a rule, risks threatening the unique dignity the person has received from the moment of conception.
If I were pope I would clearly say that as well as a few other things that would set things straight. Either be Catholic or get out and be Protestant. The Catholic Church is hardly recognizably Catholic anymore because it’s not clear about teaching.
Kaiser is my health provider. Is that wrong? I thought it would help me thrive.
Bayer and Merck also tell their customers they’ll help them thrive. Yet, they helped exterminate Jews and others during the holocaust.
Henry Kaiser fought the Nazis, but now the company bearing his name promotes genocide of the most young and vulnerable.
And, mutilates children.
Every time I get surgery, I have to sign a paper that says I understand all the risks-and they are listed. And it usually says something like-risks include but are not limited to such and such. And they always include dying from the surgery or the anesthetic.
I think the outcome is going to depend on what they signed.
There was one doctor who would not agree to give her hormones, according to the mom’s statement, but they got into another doctor who would.
I don’t see how they can rule in favor of Chloe. How would any doctor anywhere be able to practice?
I think the lesson here is don’t go to the doctors who specialize in this unless you are sure.
There are no real tests for this yet and if they refuse treatment and the patient does kill themselves, which so many transgender youth do, then they would be liable.
I feel really bad for Chloe. And her family.
But I do not see how, in something where is there is no medical test available, how the burden of proof of the condition can be put on the doctors.
Feelings of inadequacy about breast size is not gender dysphoria.
99% of women don’t feel adequate as women.
That is just part of being a woman.
That is why they have all these “I am enough” statements now.
No woman has to look like a supermodel to please me. I like women of all shapes and sizes. I like women because they are made in the image and likeness of God and are destined for eternal glory in the Kingdom of Heaven. I wish these troubled young people could find Christians that love them.
The issue is that they do not love themselves. Or like themselves.
Everybody wants to look different. Some people do something about it.
Most of us decide “I yam what I yam.”
Has anybody commenting here even read the documents?
I don’t think it is a smart idea to inject botulism into your face, but it is not medical malpractice.
You may not approve of gender affirming practices, but they are not medical malpractice.
The lawsuits seem to rest on what information the parents were given when they questioned the surgery and that the Gender Center took Chloe seriously when she presented herself as transgender and did not question it.
Online it is said the the policy is that a patient’s gender is whatever the patient says it is.
By the time you go to a gender clinic, you’ve already crossed the line where somebody is going to help you discern that.
Chloe states that her parents were shocked when she told them she was not trans after all.
The lawyers are saying that once she realized at 13 that she was not going to be voluptuous she decided to become a boy. But it doesn’t seem that she told anyone that. They are telling the court a lot of things that the doctors probably never heard. They are saying that the doctors should have asked the questions. That is not how it works anymore.