Tomorrow the bishop of Chengde, Msgr. Giuseppe Guo Jincai, will ordain 3 priests for the so-called diocese of Zhangjiakou. It is a cause of great pain and scandal among the faithful of Hebei and many say that “once again the Agreement between China and the Vatican has been betrayed.” Also because there are some candidates with mental problems and others with moral problems among the ordinands.
Msgr. Guo Jincai is one of the bishops whose excommunication was lifted by Pope Francis, on the occasion of the Sino-Vatican Provisional Agreement (22 September 2018). Msgr. Guo was ordained bishop in 2010 without a papal mandate. At the signing of the Agreement, the pope also established the diocese of Chengde for him, which already existed according to the administrative divisions of the government, but had not been recognized by the Holy See. Bishop Guo is also one of the two bishops who was allowed to participate in part of the Synod on Youth.
The diocese of Zhangjiakou is another diocese established in 1980 by the Chinese government, but currently not recognized by the Vatican. It is entrusted by the government to a diocesan administrator, Fr. Wang Zhengui.
From the Holy See standpoint, the territory of Zhangjiakou belongs to two different dioceses: Xuanhua, entrusted to Msgr. Agostino Cui Tai, underground bishop currently being held in an unknown location by the police; and Xiwanzi, entrusted to Msgr. Joseph Ma Yanen.
It was Fr. Wang who pushed Msgr. Guo to ordain the 3 new priests for the so-called diocese of Zhangjiakou.
The problem arises from the fact that the ordination will be carried out without any prior consultation with the two bishops who, from the point of view of the Holy See, are responsible for the faithful of Zhangjiakou, even if neither is recognized by Beijing.
By dispensing with the consultation with the actual pastors, the Holy See is circumvented and the episcopal structure is designed according to the wishes of the Chinese government. But this, in itself, contravenes the premises of the Agreement, according to which, pending a dialogue on the administrative structure of the dioceses and on the recognition of unofficial bishops, everything was to supposed to remain on standby.
Failure to consult with the other two bishops also leads to new problems. Of the three candidates expected to receive the priesthood tomorrow, one was expelled from the seminary because he exhibited mental problems. Another candidate – according to the faithful – has moral problems.
Tomorrow’s priestly ordination would appear to have been hurriedly organised by Msgr. Guo Jincai, who is vice-president of the National Patriotic Association. The Catholic faithful maintain that Msgr. Guo and Fr. Wang Zhenghui, are pushing through a hasty ordination in order to “to impress the city and the government,” given that the Winter Olympics will be held in Zhangjiakou (February 4-20, 2022).
And with the advent of so many tourists, there will be a need for many priests, which the so-called diocese of Zhangjiakou does not have. In fact, it has only 10 priests. The diocese of Xuanhua has 46; that of Xiwanzi has 23 priests.
The above comes from a May 10 story posted on AsiaNews.
Thank you Bergoglio and McCarrick…
Totally agree. And remember what Pope Francis said previously:
It reminds me of a prophesy of St. Francis:
Where did you find this prophecy?
Interesting. The traditionalists in this country are trying to do the same here by ordaining priests who should not be. A recently laicized priest in Sacramento is a good case study of this phenomenon.
So Mr. Robert, what is you opinion of the Chinese communist arresting Faithful Chinese Catholics but promoting those whose allegiance is to the communist party?
How do you define “traditionalist”? I’m confused by your use of the word.
Didn’t we just all read about quality over quantity? Same comments apply.
Moral problems probably means homosexual. There’s a bomb waiting to burst.
Fireworks– yes, there certainly is a “bomb waiting to burst.”– plus, many potential, tragic crime victims of the new, “bad priest.”
To bohemond– yes, shame on Bergoglio, McCarrick, and the Holy See.
Gossip is a sin. If you believe the Eucharist gives grace and Confirmation gives grace, well ordination also gives grace. Who are you to say that the grace of God given at ordination won’t strengthen these men to serve God faithfully and effectively?
See many of the people posting here are just Trump fans who don’t really want what’s best for the church. They give thumbs down to the possibility that ordination will be a source of grace for imperfect men. All they can do is react with clicks from their “China bad” and “orange man bad” Neanderthal mentality.
What’s best for The Church is for The Church to pick their successors, not some government. And yes the Catholic Church is against the CCP, because all communism is against the unique dignity of each human person. See various papal encyclicals. But the government trying to rule is also a problem here, Henry the VIII tried it and we all know he had to make his own church to do it, just as protestants do. But The Catholic Church founded by Christ picks it’s own Bishops, just as Christ picked the 12 Apostles and they in turn laid hands on and ordained others. No one ordains himself, nor did the Roman government ordain men, just like the US government does not ordain Bishops. Hope this helps clarify your confusion.
PS I see no one speaking of our last President but you. So please don’t spread hatred on this website. The Church is to be ONE. One under the Pope and the Bishops. And yes there are Judus’s. But Christ already knows this. For Christ himself picked one who would seriously betray Him. He gives all the opportunity to know Him. But we in the end pick who or what we will serve.
Sorry– priestly selection, preparation and ordination, is a huge responsibility! You don’t just put anyone up there– it’s not a joke! Unfit mem must never be ordained! Wolves among the sheep– extremely dangerous! Where is your common sense?
Anyone that agrees with this , would you go to confession or seek guidiance on any issue from these “priests” whose first loyalty is to the ccp ? We have too many bad priests we don’t need more .
Unless you’re going to China it won’t affect you.
Anonymous at 8:51 pm Your lack of concern for our Chinese brethren is disgusting , as I said we don’t need more bad priests ,our Chinese brethren deserve and need good and holy priests as do we all , your attitude and lack of concern is one of the reasons why we have so many problems, that it may not effect me ignores that this type of bad priest spreads their errors and hurts the body of Christ , that would be the church. Do you also dismiss abuse from the hierarchy with the same indifference ?.
Fake bishops, fake dioceses — it’s all on America’s horizon too.