Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:03 AM By JLS
If the diocese ghettoizes the gay (gayttoizes them), then they won’t be bothering people at other parishes.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:24 AM By JMJ
Once again: misusing the word gay as if it was the right word to be using for such a disgusting type of sexual behavior. Too bad your parents didn’t put the tag of Gay somehow in your name: Gail, Gayle, Gaylord, etc.. I bet you wouldn’t like it when someone insults you in this manner. Very sinful. +JMJ+
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:26 AM By Ross
somewhere over the rainbow??!! Hilarious!!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:29 AM By Loraine
I would like to urge every concerned Catholic to Please go to www dot sanfrancisco hyphen catholic dot com and educate yourselves to the scandalous activities and events which have been allowed at MHR, I would like to note that most of the scandals at MHR have been during Archbishop Niederauer’s leadership of the diocese and that his office is aware of the scandals. I for one have called two or three times and left messages for his Excellency expressing my concern and digust as to what has been allowed at MHR. I have also directed his staff, a secretary and Maurice Healy, to the website I noted at the top of this comment. I think it would be very helpful if California Catholic Daily would include the reference this website and include a link with every article regarding MHR or any pro homosexual scandal in the SF Diocese.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:37 AM By St. Christopher
This is certainly precious — “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” sung in at a Catholic Mass. No wonder that so few people, including clergy, have any idea what it means to be Catholic. Of course, the Church leaders are mostly at fault here, for permitting this level of insanity to happen. The new pastor described as likely been vetted by homosexual leadership to confirm that he too is lost, and will therefore be acceptable to them. What MHR and the Archdiocese of SF need is to shut down the Diocese and engage all clergy in a cram course of theology and effective outreach to those outside the Catholic Church, including any having sex outside of heterosexual marriage. Parishioners at MHR, and throughout SF, are at risk with such scandalous administration. Where is the USCCB and the Vatican in all of this? Look at the intensity of the opposition to Tradition, to groups like the SSPX and others that wish only to worship consistent with the Church’s teachings throughout the centuries. Many bishops and clergy, including outside of CA, see MHR as more of a model parish, than a grave problem. With a world-wide schism — see Austrian and German clergy in this regard — all but certain, the Pope needs to draw a clear line in the sand and let the Holy Ghost bring His cleansing fire to the Church.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:42 AM By Daniel
Homosexuality is defined by sex. Heterosexuality is defined by God.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:43 AM By John
We were so pleased when at the end of Mass on Sunday we sang, ‘I Left My Heart In San Francisco”. Maybe next week at the end of Mass we can sing a more traditional song like, “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”. It will bring a tear to your eye.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:55 AM By Shar
The Pope has stated that the Church is about to become a lot smaller, let it begin….. God Bless America…
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:56 AM By jp
Wow, hope he brings lots of rosaries and purell.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:07 AM By Sue
Am I missing something? Where’s the big change? Sounds like more of the same perverse abuse of the sacred liturgy. May God send them some real help.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:07 AM By Juergensen
The song remains the same.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:18 AM By AnnAsher
Really? Somewhere Over the Rainbow ? How utterly cliche’. This “parish” is disturbing. How does Rome allow it?
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:46 AM By Al Janson
Gay people have a right to attend mass but should also be informed that if they are active sexually that it is sinful and should not receive communion. I do not think it is wise to let groups of gay people basically take over or participate in majority in the council, etc. The pastor should emphatically make known the position of the Church and not go with the flow.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:47 AM By CalWalkr
It’s all about being “Pastorial”… God calls on all of us to reach out to all of His people. If we bar the GLBT community from our parishes we will never be able to bring them (and all of us as well) closer to God. We should not condone the over the top, in your face antics of the extremes but we should always be welcoming to those in search of God’s love and welcoming embrace. If the best way to accomplish that is to have one or two parishes that openly welcome gays and lesbians then good for those who who are doing the outreach. The rest of us need to “get over it” and support/applaud them for their pastorial commitment.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:48 AM By Elizabeth
PLEASE everyone, pray for a new Archbishop who is orthodox and will do a ‘major house cleaning’ at MHR and throughout the archdiocese.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:10 AM By MacDonald
Father Brian Costello is, thank God, very Catholic, and will have no Gay Pride Parade nonsense or anything of the sort. The thing he praised was about HOSPITALITY, for which he is famous. He’s down to earth, not hateful, about as gay as the Holy Father, and believes in traditional, healthy Catholic stuff — he even introduced the Traditional Latin Mass to his former parish, Mater Dolorosa in South San Francisco. I will pray for him very much in this new assignment, which probably no OTHER priest in the Archdiocese of San Francisco would be willing to take on, given the problems. However, Father Costello is an obedient solider of the Church and will do his best. PLEASE EVERYONE PRAY FOR HIM, as this is not going to be easy!!!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:17 AM By max
Singing “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” in church is something I will never forget….” GOOD GRIEF!!! whhatever happened to church music, instead of show tunes??? this new priest needs to set some paramenters for his new flock so they don’t look like goofballs to the rest of the catholkic world!!!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:29 AM By Patrick
One does not have to be hateful to realize that practicing any sex outside marriage is wrong and against God’s Law. The song, “Somewhere Over the Rainbow,” is certainly not Catholic and violates the liturgical rules, few as they might be, of the Church.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:31 AM By M. Gamache
I sounds like a lot of people who belong to this Church are not Catholic. I hope this new priest knows how to teach. Looks like some of these people have bought the lie and have got away with doing things their way insted of Gods way. May God have Mercy on them. May God have Mercy on the pour priest.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:33 AM By Laurette Elsberry
Why is the letter from the Yorba Linda resident printed here? This is undoubtedly a PFLAGer (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) attending the sodomite weekend called “Gay Pride”. Of course he is excited about he and his daughter being affirmed at MHR church. How better to be confirmed in your sin than by having the Catholic Church let you wallow in it! And for those of you who aren’t aware, “Over the Rainbow” is one of the sodomite movement’s anthems…….. I doubt if anything will change at Most Holy Redeemer. There is no will to confront the problem head on. The Catholic Church in California has been taken over by the “social justice” crowd who see “gay rights” as something to protect and foster. Is that how Jesus sees it?
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:40 AM By Deacon Don B
This is an abomination before God! And the blames lies on the shoulders of Archbishop John Quinn who is supposed to be the shepherd of the flock. Unfortunately he has allowed this and Nancy Polosi to continue to make a mockery of the Eucharist and the Church by not excommunicating her for her defiance of Church teaching that brings scandal to the Church with her promoting the murder of innocent children in the womb and the abomination of what has happened at Most Holy Redeemer Church.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:43 AM By Carolyn
Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:44 AM By Chris
Thanks to CalWalkr for reminding us all that we are all God’s people and that the only way to God is through His Son. Our priest’s are walking in Christ’s sandals, doing His work and need our support, not cheap shots.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:05 AM By Jacqueline
May Our Lord remove the smoke that has entered the church….Please forgive them for they know not what they do and if they do know, please change them for the end is very near. I pray this prayer in the name above all others, Jesus, for the gay community throughout this nation and for the clergy who approve of their ongoing lifestyle. May they all be converted before it is too late. Amen.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:08 AM By lisag
There is going to be a “holy war” at this parish if any major changes take place. The gay rights activists would love it too. After all of these years they will not just pack up and go away or say, “your right I must change”. This could be a huge problem for the diocese. I can see national headlines, church encampments, desecration and bombastic speeches. Whoever takes over will need to be a saint in the making to endure the righting of all of the wrongs.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:17 AM By Life Lady
Wow it sounds as if the faintest line has been drawn in the sand and that the new pastor will need a lot of prayer to overcome the indulgent administration of previous pastors. The person selecting the music for Mass needs a lesson or two in what is proper for that and then everyone needs to take a deep breath, say a prayer and then begin the long trek back to the Truth about the burden of sins of the flesh which are most offensive to God and to the persons who suffer under that oppression. None of us must forget that every person created by God is worthy of our prayers and patience if they turn from sin. If they decide to remain in their sin they still need prayer. God listens no matter the outcome. We never know what good we do with prayer.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:27 AM By Karen Ryan
Wow, I still can’t believe how far homosexuals have come in the Catholic Church, not through God’s plan, but through man’s. I will pray for these people because when they die they will be quite surprised who will be greeting them. Not God, but satan and his minions. Life is but a short time, but eternity is forever I would tell my students. These people think they are getting everything they want on earth, but watch out eternity, there is a special place in hell for you.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:34 AM By Bud
Next will be the “blessing of the baths”!!! What are we complaining about if everyone from the bishops on up seem to believe this is an “ex cathedra” decision and must be accepted as a matter of faith! I’m tired of the silence especially the belief that each bishop is so totally independent of the real truths that we supposedly must follow.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:35 AM By love
The situation seems dire in san fran. But before we judge too harshly let us look at the states of our own lives. We may be surprised that a gay person with good intentions makes it into heaven faster than us. Just saying lets not be too self righteous.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 10:03 AM By Michael
There is certainly a great deal of self-righteous anger in these posts. I would only ask that people remember our Lord’s response to those who wanted to stone the woman who was caught in adultery. How many posters to this sight are themselves without sin? They should also remember they are not the Church “police”, responsible for keeping us on the right path. I trust the Holy Spirit to do that.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 10:04 AM By Curtis
I am disturbed by the hatred expressed in these comments. Certainly obsessive condemnation of our fellow man cannot be a Christlike expression of love. When our judgement of others defines our religious practice it is we that our “lost” and have truly lost sight of Christ’s message.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 10:24 AM By WhereIsLove?
Wow. The comments on here really make me embarrassed to be Catholic. Which of you that have said such horribly judgmental things are without sin? I guess you’ve fed your share of hungry people, clothed as many people as you can and healed all of the sick in the world and have nothing better to do than gossip and judge people you don’t know the first thing about. I’ll pray for all of you. Much love, to my fellow Catholics.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 10:43 AM By SNoel
I feel sorry for any priest that has to pastor this parish. Maybe the best course of action should be to close MHR.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 11:01 AM By MD
If I were pastor of this parish I would not only allow them, but would encourage them to march in the pride parade, but with signs about abstinence, purity and repentance. Maybe the new pastor will share the truth about human sexuality with all the men and women who have bought into the lies of our culture of death. Lets pray for him. God Love You.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 11:05 AM By Rod
Why not excommunicate everyone at MHR? It would be so much simpler. Then True Catholics® from the neighborhood can attend. Oh, wait… there would be no one left, because it’s a GAY neighborhood. Some folks here seem to forget that the Church’s mission is to Minister to the Community. Each community has its own unique needs, and MHR has found its niche. It might not be right for Topeka, but then a church from Topeka would be uncomfortable in San Francisco’s Castro district.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 11:25 AM By Diane B
I don’t get it: the place for people who think differently from the Magisterium is the protestant church. They welcome self-revelation. The Catholic Church is “apostolic,” teaching not only what Jesus taught, but also the well-informed disciples. The church has worked to uphold all the teachings since Jesus Christ walked and preached on this earth, including those of the disciples. Like it or not, they taught that the homosexual lifestyle is condemned by God. It’s the sexual revolution that embraced every kind of sex. Are we going to live our lives based on the impact of the chemicals found in a pill??
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 11:33 AM By Elsie
It saddens me to see that we confuse “tolerance” with true Christian love. If I truly love my brother or sister, I would want for them to go to heaven. To encourage anyone to continue on a path that is condemned by God, is not loving @ all, but actually apathy disguised as love. Let us love our homosexual brothers & sisters enough to encourage them to lead a chaste lifestyle. They have a tough cross to bear & the Lord will help them with it if they ask Him to.We need to pray for this parish & for all those who bear this terrible cross.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 11:47 AM By Fr Bill
There is a place for those who actively practice homosex. It is the Confessional.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:00 PM By Bakersfield Crusader
An empty but orthodox Most Holy Redeemer Church is better than a half-empty by heterodox Most Holy Redeemer Church. Maybe someone will get a clue that the church is there to help them resist the temptation to act out their homosexual impulses.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:01 PM By Marty
More of the fruits of Vatican II. We need a schism. Let those who won’t serve leave, like all the rest of the Protestants.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:09 PM By Concerned
Everyone please remember that most of these poor gay people were raped as children and are not intentionally emotionally damaged. You who have had the pleasure of leading a normal sexual life and were not shunned, rejected and bullied could take a compassionate view of these hurting people and kindly redirect them toward God’s standards. Harsh condemnation will not heal a traumatized person, patience and gentleness will.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:09 PM By cpatt
First off the Pope, nor the Catholic Church hates the homosexual person. They dispise the sin, not the sinner. Secondly, I will pray for this priest. He needs all the help he can get. He can accept the people, but not condone the actions of the parishoners. I am sorry that the gay community has corrupted MHR, but God’s mercy will prevail.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:16 PM By JMJ
Bishops are accountable to God for the faithful in their charge and the clergy in their obedience to him as their leader and father-figure. Jesus is the heart and soul and substance of the holy Catholic Mass, no other can take his place. The faithful know this, the faithful want only this, nothing else will do. Return the holy Mass to the worship of Christ, and his priests to his service.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:18 PM By gilad
I wish every parish made us feel welcomed! Now, arriving to Mass late, does anyone look at there watches anymore?
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:21 PM By Blessed
Seriously where is the Vatican. I can feel and see Jesus crying over this church The Most Holy Redeemer. What a blasphemy! These priest should be removed and the church closed until exactly a purifying can be done and a re-consecration of this church to the true faith. THIS IS HOW THE ADVERSARY ENTERS OUR CHURCH.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:24 PM By Sawyer
Admonishing the sinner and instructing the ignorant are spiritual works of mercy. Remember that when small-“c” “c”atholics such as those who posted between 10:00 and 10:30 this morning attempt to shame you into being reluctant to evangelize.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 12:25 PM By Juergensen
The sodomites are minions of Satan and they have infiltrated the Church. I am convinced this is what Pope Paul VI was referring to when he said “da qualche fessura sia entrato il fumo di Satana nel tempio di Dio” (“through a fissure the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God”). Omelia di Paolo VI, June 29, 1972.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:04 PM By Rick DeLano
@ MacDonald re:Monday, May 07, 2012 8:10 AM: Thank you very much for this. I will immediately add Fr. Costello to my daily rosary intention, and also offer a communion for him soon.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:07 PM By Maureen W.
Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ if Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Chris is Lord.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:18 PM By Len
Just to give some insight into a few things, I have visited the St. Martin De Pores Church in Yorba Linda, Ca, and I could see why the visitor to the Church in the article was to her liking. The songs are largely protestant-style/folky, there’s way too much chitchat before/during/after Mass, and it lacks all the quiet reverence that you would normally get from a traditionally Catholic Church. Very typically modern, with people also dressing less appropriately too. The Orange County Diocese has VERY few Churches with a more trad Mass(except for the Abbey-Thanks Be To God). So, based on this, I can see why the woman mentioned enjoyed the San Fran Church.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:28 PM By Peter K
This must be what the Apostles called “the Synagogue of Satan”
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:45 PM By Gary M.
This parish is a great opportunity for Catholic lay missionaries from other parishes to ecuminize the gay and lesbian church goers. Just think of how effective it would be to teach real Catholicism to souls seaching for God. After all, isn’t this what it is all about. . . saving souls. We could teach authentic Catholic doctrine, including “no sex outside of marriage” (defined as between a man and a woman), and, once they are in the State of Grace, ask for their participation in the Sacraments. You see, being gay is besides the point. Being saved is the point.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 1:48 PM By polycarp
When the sacred worship of God in the Catholic church is abused and misused, the faithful complain justly, and for doing that they have to endure the harsh criticism of ones who say they are “hateful” and “judgmental”. So the faithful are damned if they do and damned if they don’t defend what they hold dear and sacred.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 2:03 PM By ellen
What saddens me is the lack of true Christian Charity& polarization that exists in this article & responses.We are all called to be witness’s to our Blessed Lord’s word,obey his commandments ” Love God ……and love your neighbor….Each of us must honestly discern what the Lord wants of us & how best to respond so let us pray for each other.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 2:37 PM By JLS
cpatt, there is no such thing as “the homosexual person”; the person is the creation of God, and God does not create homosexuals.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 2:39 PM By JLS
Concerned, the problem with your hypothesis is that most “gay” people never repent and turn to Christ. I find it not so much of a conversion issue, as a defence of the faith and society issue.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 2:42 PM By JLS
No gay person has ever entered Heaven nor shall any gay person ever enter Heaven. Don’t believe it? Then check with Church Doctrine.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 2:47 PM By JLS
To Deacon Don B., this is a heads up: Archbishop John Quinn is no longer archbishop of San Francisco. This may shock you, but he retired seventeen years ago, in 1995.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 3:04 PM By Jimmy Mac
This is old news. Have your spies been asleep at the wheel?
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 3:25 PM By lome
We will call them the name God gave them..”Sodomite” (practicing homosexuals.)And those apostate pastors, ” Hirelings”..not shepherds.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 3:49 PM By Helene
The Truth will set you free, not your brokenness. Courage (the group and the virtue) is what is called for here.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 3:57 PM By Ed
Len, FYI…The traditional Mass (Latin) is said at 0700 on Sunday at the John Paul II Polish center in Placentia, CA, next door to Yorba Linda.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 3:59 PM By DENISE
get into meditation everybody. buy a picture of JESUS and meditate on it for 15-30 minutes one or two times a day. it will take you to another level spiritually. say whatever prayer you want to while meditating. it is time we all keep climbing the stairway to heaven.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 4:16 PM By RR
I get so frustrated when posters come on here and say things like, “don’t judge”, “you who are without sin”, “self-rightous”….Please, people. We are NOT without sin. What we are doing is admonishng the sinner. We are ALL sinners, but the difference is that we are not on here trying to get the Church to accept, promote, and condone our sins like the homosexual agenda. The homosexual agenda is hard at work here trying to take control of the Church. ACTIVE homosexuality IS an abomination in God’s eyes and of the Church. It will NEVER be accepted, so if that means all the ACTIVE gays will leave MHR, then so be it. I know one particular regular poster here will say, ” You would just love it if all the gays left the Church.” My response is: No, I wouldn’t want all the active homosexuals to leave the Church. What I would want is for them to repent of their mortally sinful lives and obey God’s laws and the Catholic Church’s teachings on homosexual acts. Homosexual acts of sodomy, done by homosexuals AND heterosexuals are mortally sinful and can NEVER be accepted by God or His Church. THE END!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 4:33 PM By Elizabeth
PLEASE EVERYONE, WE ARE NOT TO CONDEMN PEOPLE…..BUT WE CERTAINLY MUST JUDGE THEIR ‘ACTIONS’. PLEASE GET IT STRAIGHT, I AM SO TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY DON’T JUDGE A PERSON. WE MUST JUDGE THEIR ACTIONS.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 5:13 PM By MarkF
As a man who has personally known this sin in the past, I really am increasingly offended by the remarks made on this website. Many seem to get a perverse pleasure out of observing, at a distance, a parish that is probably not very faithful to the fullness of the gospel. But are you all so blinded by whatever darkness that is inside of you that you cannot see what you have become? Does hate have to beget more hate? I am completely in support of what Concerned said above at 12:09 PM and to a lesser extent what WherIsLove said at 10:24 AM. I have to wonder what those who hurl around words like sodomite and abomination really are interested in. How much twisted pleasure can you all get from this? Yes, I totally agree that having S&M groups at a Catholic church is very disturbing. But what I see coming from so many on here is a sickness of its own, the sickness of deriving some sort of comfort from observing the sin of others. Besides satisfying some dark place in your souls, what does all of this repetitive posting about abominations and disgusting behavior actually do for the world? Can anyone really say that these sorts of posts actually help the body of Christ in any way? What is much more interesting to me is how the kind grace of our Lord can transform all of us, if we let him. I agree with the facts about MHR as we known them – that this parish has been allowed to become a place where the fullness of the gospel has been watered down, and where outright disobedience has been celebrated. But how much different is this from the standard parish where 2/3 of the married couples use artificial birth control, without one word said from the pulpit against it? I feel like I am in between to sets of people who have gone mad. One side (like at MHR) sees that few in the Church live up to her teachings in full and takes that to mean that they too can do as they please. And the other side gets their kicks out of bashing people anonymously through the internet.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 5:20 PM By Maria
So so sad and pretty disgusting what this priest has allowed in his parish. He is leading the flock to hell. The Lord has said there is destruction coming to San Francisco by way of an earthquake so please pray for this city before it is too late for many will perish if not enough prayer is said. May the Lord have mercy on this city.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 5:56 PM By OneoftheSheep
Somewhere Over the Rainbow? Really? The level of spirituality is puerile.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:03 PM By MarkF
Ellen, I agree with your but only part of the way. I too am bothered by the tone and the language on here that is certain only to turn away the very people who need to hear the fullness of the truth the most. But I disagree that we are only to “honestly discern what the Lord wants of us.” We are not as alone as all of that. We have the Church, the Bible, the magesterium, the doctors and the saints. We are told to have a fully developed consciousness, and that means to know and accept all of what the Church teaches. Within that boundary, we are to follow our conscience. I’d like to know where you are coming from. Would you support, as I do, that all parishes teach that homosexual actions are always wrong? (But doing so in a way that actually works, and not in a way as is demonstrated on here all too much)
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:07 PM By RR
Elizabeth: I second that!!!!! I get so tired of it. Nobody here has ever said they are without sin. NOBODY! We are told by the Church that we are to practice the Corporal and Spiritual works of mercy. That is what people here are doing. ACTIVE homosexuals are on here promoting their agenda and they need to be told that what they are doing is mortally sinful. We do this because we do care about them and love them. We all want them to get to heaven someday. If they continue to live their ACTIVE homosexual lives they will be worthy of hell as ANYONE who continues to live a mortally sinful life.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:25 PM By anne
Sodom. Isn’t that where the Sodomites lived? And how they were living upset God so much, he completely destroyed the City and those who were sodomizing each other. Be careful, City of St. Francis. The Warning is very near!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:25 PM By max
just learned that FATHER BILL YOUNG, the only priest in the arhcdiocese of san francisco who is competent to celebrate the TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS, livesx at most holy redeemer rectory, where FATHER BRIAN COSTELLO will live. FATHER YOUNG is very consevative and many gay people come to him PRECISELY because he’s strict and they want to live holier lives…wow. i’ve also read that FATHER COSTELLO asked FATHER YOUNG to come to his former parish in south city and celebrate the TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS, so this may be a very good thing for most holy redeemer. maybe they will offer the TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS there again, as they did under FATHER YOUNG several years ago…?
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:27 PM By gospa
This is a mockery of the Catholic church. Yes, we should welcome all people, but anyone attending church should adhere to Jesus’ teachings. If they are not following Jesus wholeheartedly then they shouldn’t be there. It is not a social club where individuals make the rules, this is the church with a 2,000 year history of following Jesus and what He wants us to do. Let’s keep it that way and not let anyone corrupt it.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:29 PM By Karl
Our parish, MHR, is a big mix, and sometimes a big mess, like all the other parishesw I read about on this blog. But we try to stay close to the Lord, be faithful to Sunday Mass, support the needy, and change our lives. Just because you are gay doesn’t mean you are running around like a dog in heat -0- many gay people are celibate like single people in OTHER Catholic parishes. We have some nut cases, but then so does the cathedral, where folks walk in naked, or drunk, and create a scene. Even in ritzy neighborhoods we see nutty stuff, like people bringing their DOGS up in a basket in the Communion line (!!!), claiming they are service dogs for their nerves.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:54 PM By Helen
I have NEVER seen “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” in sacred Hymnals. This type of perverse behavioral is what caused the abuse scandals in the first place. Sounds like the same “agenda” at the Church of St Francis Xavier in NYC. They also have Zen meditation to round it off. Lots of prayers needed for these “types” of churches and especially their pastors.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 6:56 PM By Bud
Curtis, PM and the rest of the bleeding hearts making excuses for a bishop, priest and gays welcoming sick drag queens posing as a NUNs and having the audacity and ugliness to go to communion while the priest just stupidly stands there, stupid parents of gays (PFLAG) who are already on a guilt trip for having queer kids…..this is nothing but a community that knows exactly what it’s doing; insulting and scandalizing and at the very least using their own lifestyle to demand it be accepted. There is no excuse left for what’s going on unless the clergy allowing it have some secret dispensations that conflict with what we are instructed as Catholics to believe. Not only this one “church” but look at the wonderful and arrogant supposed cream of the crop Jesuits….and others playing the drama rules of tolerance at the cost of our own loss of faith!!!!!!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 7:04 PM By Narob
“Somewhere Over The Rainbow”! The results of Vatican II. “Ye shall know a tree by its fruits.” And the fruits are there! It all speaks for itself.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:14 PM By PJT
Cal Catholic’s obsession with Most Holy Redeemer parish has now reached an unhealthy stage.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:34 PM By JLS
God does not condemn actions; He condemns people, Elizabeth.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:44 PM By Linda Maria
As a child, I was taught that all Catholic parishes all over the world, are exactly the same, and one must never be afraid to step inside a parish church in any city, and go to Mass, or make a Visit to the Blessed Sacrament, or participate in any religious devotions. Catholics all over the world are obliged to attend Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation Masses, and wherever they are in the world, the Catholic Faith is One Holy Faith, and everyone can thus fulfill their religious needs and obligations. The same Holy Mass, and all Sacraments– exactly the same! This, of course, was in the days before Vatican II. But today, it is very hard to find even one or two parishes, where we find the True Faith preached correctly, and the Mass and Sacraments administered correctly. So many Church leaders have gone astray! Whom do they think they’re kidding?? Almighty God, at His very own altars? The Church has a very serious obligation to teach the Catholic Faithful their Faith and Morals, and how to be good practicing Catholics! God is waiting and waiting for our “Church gone astray,” to carry out Christ’s holy mission correctly!! Christ died for our souls, to set us free of sin, and lead us all to Heaven! That is very important! A parish church is not a silly joke, or a place for “wayward babies” to play!!
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 8:48 PM By k
RR, this article is about a priest. It is not about homosexuals-well-it is if you count the allegation that active gays run MHR and have a large say in who their pastor will be. The only action we have been given to “judge” this priest by is a letter that this priest put in his parish bulleten. It does not condone homosexual sex or any other sin. The article presents the past of the parish to show how former pastors have supported gay people. I suppose the implication is that the new pastor will, also. MacDonald, who knows this priest, has posted a defense of him.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 9:47 PM By Jacobum
Is there any doubt why the Church is in such trouble. All self-inflicted thru moral relativism and corrupted Bishops and leaders. Truth is a minor inconvenience. What don’t the Bishops et al understand about TRUTH as in: “Truth Himself speaks truly or there’s nothing true”..by St Thomas Aquinas. Any questions as to what is “Truth”? Please refer to the Bible. After all the CC compiled and validated it over approx 400 years and the Magesterium, thru the Holy Spirit maintains dogma and truth. And the current crop of banana boys both in and out of the Church actually think they can change “Truth” to rationalize their colon proclivities? They don’t call California and SF in particular, the “Land of Fruits & Nuts” for nothing.
Posted Monday, May 07, 2012 10:06 PM By CC.
Some of our bishops are rotten! They allow that. Homosexuals will never be true representatives of Christ. They do not believe in the true presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing what they are doing. They don’t want to leave because they have it too good! May God have mercy on their souls!
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:05 AM By Mathew
Satan is creeping into the inner circle of the church. If we cannot trust even our pastor, whom shall we trust. In India we are saddened by the news that some of the parishes in US tacitly approve sexual perverts, which God has forbidden.in India , we cannot even imagine this.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:07 AM By Michael
Carolyn says “they no not what they do”, but the great sin of gays is that they do know what they do.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:51 AM By Frank
St Francis who is the patron saint of SF…better get going and pound sense into that area before god sends one helluva quake hmmm. Maybe another Sodom and gomarrah scene again….possible or far worse
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:26 AM By Chris
One cannot claim to be walking with God when holding the hand of the devil.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:44 AM By BETH
People who say that we should NOT judge ACTIONS violate the teachings in the New Testament and in the CCC. These are the people who support ‘Relativism’ – where there is no right and wrong, or they are severely misinformed.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:45 AM By PETE
The CCC must be followed in ALL Catholic Churches. There are no exceptions. Bishops must make this happen in their own Diocese.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:41 AM By Diane
St. Ambrose, a Doctor of the Church said,” God forgives a repentent sinner, but He does not always give the grace of repentance to every sinner” Sounds to me like those LGBT people at MHR have no intention of repentance. The diocese has to handle this firmly, because the LGBT untends to infiltrate as many Catholic parishes as possible and force the diocese to accept their evil or close the parish. Thank God that the amount of homos in this country is less than 2% of the population. They want legal marriage and adoption of other peoples children in order to increase their numbers, especially since AIDS killed so many of them. They will fail in their objectives. I’ve begun to agree with Pat Robertson that AIDS arose in the homo people in this country as a punishment for sodomy and true to their violent nature they attempted to spread it everywhere. There should be another plague coming for them soon. This time abandon them to it.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:55 AM By John Chuchman
Supremacists of Any Kind We abhor the Hate Groups like the White Supremacists who spread Fear and Violence among peoples of the world. Most people speak out against the perceived evil they represent. Are Religious Supremacists any less guilty? When Religious Hierarchs discriminate against women, married men, gays, lesbians, any who do not follow their own man-made rules, are they any less spreaders of hate? The White Supremacists, though evil, are open about their views; the hate spread by Religious Discrimination and Arrogance is subtle and hypocritical. They hide under the cloak of Religious Piety while programming their constituencies to look down upon and exclude those who do not toe the mark. Religious Supremacists may well be far more pernicious and evil than their skin-head relatives. Note how they bemoan infringement on their freedom to oppress and discriminate against others. Look not so far for the Purveyors of Hate.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:04 AM By George
I expect to be judged for what I have done not for what some priests or a bishop in California has done. We have many places to worship according ot ourCatholic concience. I dont feel compelled to get involved in the so called gay Catholocism bitterness. God will judge us all in the end which is not far down the road for any of us. We may be surprised to find what we find at that awful excercise. Perhaps if we really love God we will be given the grace to accept the reality He is in charge and we should . expect Gods will to prevail as He has promised, Im not gay but think this is a very complicated and soul tearing issue
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:17 AM By Richard
Thank you dear, loving Catholics for caring so much about our little parish. God bless your hearts. (And yet when something big hits this site, involving war and famine and genocide, there are like three posts max. Folks in here must LOVE talking about gay people.)
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:34 AM By kaves1
Richard, those espousing war, famine,genocide are not attempting to change Church teaching on such. However, some homosexuals are attempting to change Church teaching on homosexuality.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:57 AM By gk
JLS I thought people condemn themselves [while, even to the end, our Provident Father is always offering forgiveness if only we seek it]?
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:41 AM By Daniel
Gary M. (May 7, 2012 1:45 PM): You hit the nail on the head. Yes, this is the thing to do in this situation. Thanks for the insightful comment.
Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:49 AM By Dana
Richard…not so much. I did give the web address of what I thought was a very intriguing magazine article in another post, however that might tickle your fancy. Just click on the article “No Secrets” and scroll to May 07, 2012 12:09 PM By Dana ” for your delectation. No one has read it, or if they have, have not commented. Please let me know what you think. It deals with the gamut of what you described! What a coincidence!
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