“Pseudo-Catholic Organization Active in Diocese,” Oakland chancery warns
The following is from the April 16 edition of The Weekly, a publication of the chancery of the Oakland diocese.
It has been brought to the Bishop’s attention that there is a non-Catholic group operating in certain parts of the diocese that sometimes masquerades itself as a Catholic organization. The name of this group is Banal Na Pag-aaral (BNP). It is a movement founded in the Philippines in 1968 which, among other things, teaches that God is to be worshipped as “Mahal na Ingkong.” The BNP teaches that “Mahal na Ingkong” communicates with human beings through Mrs. Salve Carreon, who is the chairperson of the BNP movement. She allows her followers to reverence her with genuflections and other gestures normally reserved to Christ.
The BNP is propagated through weekend retreats called “Apostolic Mission Classes,” modeled on the Cursillo, but intended to introduce new members both to the teachings of the BNP and to “Mahal na Ingkong.” During these retreats traditional Roman Catholic teaching is mixed with BNP doctrine, sometimes giving retreatants the false impression that the BNP is a Catholic organization.
The group has been investigated and condemned by various members of the hierarchy. Bishop Gerald Barnes of San Bernardino stated, “The BNP movement promotes activities and teachings that are not in conformity with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.” Similar statements and expressions of concern have been issued by Cardinal Sin of the Philippines, Archbishop Quinn of San Francisco, and Bishop Larry Silva of Honolulu.
Catholics should be warned that BNP is not a Catholic organization and that their teachings are incompatible with Catholic doctrine.
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 12:22 AM By Clinton
Catholics should also be warned that Most Holy Redeemer is not a Catholic parish and that their actions and teachings are incompatible with Catholic doctrine. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 5:21 AM By Sixupman
By the headline I feared it might be SSPX! Just joking. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 6:07 AM By JMJ
Sounds as though the chairman of BNP, Mrs. Carrcon attended a ‘catholic’ university and graduated with high honors. Too bad that she didn’t learn what God says about receiving honor that belongs only to Him. She is walking on a very dangerous road straight into hell and if she was a Catholic, her suffering will be extremely horrible for all of eternity. Please let us pray for her conversion and salvation. +JMJ+ |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 6:37 AM By JLS
As I got further into the article, I began to realize it was not about the Diocese. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 6:39 AM By JLS
… and flabberghasted to find out that it was also not about the USCCB, or MHR in Oakland. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 6:43 AM By Dan
If Catholics were well-educated in their faith, they would see through this silly woman in a flash, her ultimate end as an anti-Christ, and pray like crazy for her soul; they would hardly need to be warned. That such weeds sprout so easily in the Church’s garden says as much about the church in that area as about this foolish woman. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 8:28 AM By Larry
There are other organizations out there masquerading as Catholic, which the faithful need to beware of. One of them in particular calls itself “The Society of Jesus,” and its members, who are nonetheless validly-ordained priests, are commonly referred to as “Jesuits.” They often run high schools and colleges, where they teach a misleading blend of Catholic and zeitgeist doctrine. Parents are warned against sending their children to such institutes of higher learning in the mistaken belief that they are Catholic. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 9:13 AM By Laurette Elsberry
I am reading this at 9:05 am. The comments up through 8:28 am are most enlightening in that one can see that CalCatholic readers are certainly savvy about the other kinds of false teachers that abound in relation to the Catholic Church. Larry (9:28) is right on target as was JLS at 6:39 am. Very perceptive. Beware of false prophets…… (Mat.7:15) |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 9:45 AM By Anthony
Wow, Larry! That is very interesting. I had a neighbor, not Catholic, who sent their boy to St. Ignatius High. He told me that the religion teacher taught her students that God did not exist. Apparently her reasoning was that she wanted the students to be able to defend their faith. To get a good grade, some of the students agreed with her. It turned out to be a lesson on how to become Judases to succeed and/or how to get along without conflict. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 10:14 AM By Abeca Christian
Clinton I agree, why are they not denouncing Most Holy Redeemer? What is wrong with our church leaders! While it seems obvious that this group is not Catholic why are they not excommunicating Most Holy Redeemer! Well as a Baptized devout Catholic, I want to inform folks that Most Holy Redeemer may bare the name Catholic, but we must be warned that it has many activities that are not Catholic and the lay faithful must beware before entering or nearing such a place! |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 10:24 AM By Peggy
To go one step further on Dan’s comment, “if Catholics were well educated in their faith”…they would see through the hypocrisy of the SF Archdiocesan sponsored “Forward in Faith”. |
Posted Friday, April 20, 2012 10:54 AM By Bud
Larry is so correct! While us “dumb weakly indoctrinated Catholics” read about what appears to be similar to so many catholic mixed with local religions native to other places, we still are not provided any logic or reason wlhy we never get an explanation for the Jesuits et., al. who so easily ignore the faith with their arrogant pronouncements while scandalizing our children in universities with their horrible example. |
Kudos to all those who have aired their views and comments. What I would like to figure out is that, how then are you considered to be a catholic or not. Isn’t it that when you are baptised in a catholic church you are considered a catholic? And you attend activities and learn doctrines thought in catholic schools and their churches or communities. Why is it all of a sudden, that when you attend an activity of a certain group which follows the norms of the catholic teachings, but not approved by the council or so called hierarchy, they are branded a cult? Whilst you keep on hitting on others about what they are doing, Why not check your ranks and marching order.
It’s true all of us wants to redeem if that is the way and it helps you to become a good person why not as long as you have faith in God . ???
in response to Larry from april 2012, I’m just saying that you need to educate yourself a little before you start running your mouth about organizations you know close to nothing about. Pope Francis is Society of Jesus, yes a Jesuit.
I happen to be introduced to this group (BNP), and after so long of being with them, all I can say is, if they are not Catholics, I am confused, because among others, these are the things I notice and see they do by group or individual… 1) go the mass almost daily, 2) hear confession once a month, 3) pray the rosary daily, 4) adore the blessed sacrament weekly, 5) propagate devotions to the Virgin Mary (rosary), 6) take part in sponsoring mass (group) wedding to less fortunate couples, 7) take part in sponsoring mass (group) baptism to less fortunate couples., 8) support their own parish church raising funds, 9) Do medical missions to remote areas…..etc. Well if they are not Catholics, what else are left for them to do to become one?
do not practice idolatry to Mrs. Salve
Salve is not being worship. Just like when Protestant accused Catholics worshiping statues
What else is left? Do not practice idolatry to Mrs. Salve. That is against the 10 commandments!
Email me and I will share you my experiences, you might even consider writing a book not for your glory and mine but for the Glory of the Lord Jesus Christ?
Is this group of individuals are catholic or non catholic? (BNP)
We are all Catholics in the BNP. Before anyone make any comments – if you have an open mind knowing and practicing the dogmas, commandments , beatitudes , cardinal sins that the church is teaching . If you qualify yourself to be an expert in all this – guess what ? You still can’t judge the BNP a Holy Study !
I have been a catholic all my life. I attended carhilic school (primary and secondary). I go to church every Sunday and all other special masses celebrated (i.e easter , christmas). I have a very good parish which i serve through a choir group. I am also part of the hospitality group to welcome our parishioners and lastly i do clean up after mass. In 2012 i attended the Marian retreat run by the BNP movement and by 2013 i graduated the BNP.
I have attended the BNP despite negative write ups on the internet drawn to me by a friend and gossips she heard from people who did not even attend BNP. This so called friend was in the same parish serving in the
Eucharistic ministry. I am not one who judge people or groups just by listening to negative comments about them. In other words i’d like to try to see and experience for myself rather than just hear.
After my experience with BNP movement i knew in my heart and mind that i became closer to God our Father. I begin to realise how important our service to God is. That we serve Him wholeheartedly whether it be cleaning up after mass, in the choir, or hospitality. I also began to pray the rosary daily and hear mass attentively..meaning i listen to the word of God with open heart and mind knowing that He is indeed talking to us through the Gospels read at masses.
Apology for the above typographical/grammatical error. Im sure you will understand my message.
Godbless you all.
My parents were involved in BNP when I was a kid. I remember witnessing Sister Salve levitating while in stage. She also would grow to about 10 feet tall. I remember after these events, she would go through the crowd and “bless” the people in the audience. I recall holding her hand and squeezing her hand. However, I never felt any bones and she was a tiny woman. During one of these gatherings, my brother who was younger than I didn’t get “blessed” by Sister Salve. That night, before he went to bed, he said that someone was looking at him outside the widow. However, the windows and shutters were closed. He described the person to be wearing a brown hood so he couldn’t see the face. My mother then got excited and said that Mahal Na Ingkong was visiting him. It was the strangest thing to be a part of. We’d smell this distinct floral scent while attending church and even at home when no flowers were present. I’d see dark figures in my house. Now as an adult and a Christian, I look back and realize that was a demonic cult. Sister Salve was allowing herself to be demon possessed. This is definitely not from God and not of God. The Holy Spirit does not possess people, only demons possess people. Anyone who are thinking of being a part of this group should be warned that their practices are not Biblical.
The floral scent or incense phenomenon is recognized the Roman Catholic Church as Odor of Sanctity which occured with many Saints. If you are concerned about the dark figures, even the Lord Jesus Christ more than two thousand years ago was visited by the demon especially at the part where he fasted for 40 days in the dessert. Ate Salve was NEVER POSSESSED, EVERYONE is a temple of the HOLY SPIRIT just as yourself and all the good people on earth. We can never limit God’s power, by our own understanding of God. You should have search more and dig deeper before coming into an ultimate conclusion. You know what is the unforgivable sin? It is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. What if God truly works with Sister Salve?
What if not?
I believed in you and if you will read her background I was apalled…. we all grew up CATHOLIC and we should stick to one religion which is the only religion that will bring us to Salvation… this BNP is a cult in my opinion … I do not nderstand who is the one doing the Mass ? is it a Catholic priest or priest created by Ms Salve?…. I dont know I have so much distrust in this group it seems they were so brain washed…. we have to pray for them …I wish someone can tell the truth how wealthy is Ms Salve this group reminds me of the similarity of INC Iglesia ni Cristo….. I am so glad you stick with your Catholicism faith …. they are missing the most important of respecting our church which the wall we embrace and has the ff:…
I recently attended one of these retreats and I felt the love they provided for me, I felt as if someone cared for me. But now that I’m reading all of this I am questioning all of this, I am a Roman Catholic by heart, and just knowing that this is all a scam makes me feel horrible as if I betrayed my religion. Does this make me a horrible person? because I confessed to the ‘priest’ there. After the retreat I would pray to Mahal Na Ingkon believing it was the Lord and I believed ate Salve’s testimony. No wonder when I heard her testimony ,I felt a strange and weird feeling. Because we were in a dark room with a glowing red light and then I felt with my instincts it had to do with the devil and it was not the Lord. I shall warn all Catholics about this!!!!!
True stick with your true faith Catholicism
What is the difference between Mrs. Salve and Archbishop Lefebvre?
I suggest you tweet His Holiness and ask.
Agitation for agitation’s sake belongs in a washing machine, YFC. Get the hence and perhaps you’ll come out filled with understanding an light instead of the darkness you seem to prefer ;^)
The latter doesn’t dress up like Jesus and pretend to be the latest incarnation of him
Brother I am so glad to see a recent reply. I graduated at BNP last January 2015. I really Felt the Holy Spirit. I am now one of the missionary because of what I experienced and continue experiencing. I want to shout to the whole universe be quiet and listen the Lord is back with us . Ate Salve is an instrument to save us again. If only I could make everyone feel the joyful feelings of serving Him! We are not being ask to abandoned the His Church Catholic we are being called to make it stronger to save His people once again.
i was graduated 1992, in BNP if i didnot know this religion, my be my life is wasted, becouse i fill the love of god, if you open your heart, even we have to much sin in our life, we know that god is always with us, ask ordinary people, if they do practising there faith in god, as a BNP graduate we have obligation to do, prayer to Mama Mary fatima, we have Vigil, we have sunday mass, and confesion, ask someone if they do there obligation as a Roman Catholic, if they practicing there as a catholic, how about you, ask your self, did you know that your obligation also is going to church every sunday, what will happen if you did not go and pray every weekend, you have already sin, this is mortal sin, ask your self my brother and sister, what life you have, i didnot say im perfect, but i know my obligation as a Roman Catholic. God bless as all MNI is always with us.
How foolish and judgemental you people are. You dont know about BNP, if you think this is a cult or not Catholic. I was born Catholic and will die Catholic. I have attended many other religious organisations and other Catholic groups. Ive been invoved in many parishes or churches here and abroad. Like many of you mapanira and judgemental people, i was also told BNP was a cult until I attended their retreats, to see if they were what others claimed Cult. I had ti find out for myself,
& Absolutely NOT. My catholic faith has been strengthened, I have been prayerful n i dont want a day to go by without praying a rosary or two a day. It makes me angry that you people can say somthg so bad to BNP and to Ate Salve when u have no knowledge of it or of Ate. BNP is a good group. I have been more Catholic than ever, i thought i have learned so much when i became SRE Catholic Scripture Teacher but that was not enough knowledge. Ive learned so much more about Catholic faith since ive joined BNP. I used to go to church not understanding it but since ive joined BNP ive gained better understanding, i have to really listen to the word of God when attending mass or masses. I put up an altar after attending BNP retreats and i dont just look at Jesus and Mother Mary as statues. I started to feel that I really want to serve God in so many ways, in every opportunity by serving people. I could have gone back to flashy clothes n office job but i do believe God has given me a job in the nursing home to serve vulnerable people in our society.
I hope this clarifies some of your conclusions. My dear people please… before you say something bad about BNP or Ate Salve please, get your facts right or find out more for yourself like I did
May MNI bless you and your family, Sister Carol.
Thank you for sharing my sister in Christ! I felt the same when I joined the retreat 30 years ago, very grateful for the privilege of knowing the Banal Na Pag-aaral, it definitely strengthened and deepened my Catholic faith; attending daily Holy Mass and reciting the Holy Rosary every day; joyful and grateful to God for the graces. Grace and blessings to everyone on this group.
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In a technological advanced world one must research and constantly cross reference their own thoughts and actions as well as information you willfully choose to digest.
“First remove the plank from your own eye,
Then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brothers eye”
“Seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things should be added to you”
“Not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
– Jesus of Nazareth
May God bless you all
A great reminder. Thank you.
I dont know why you call bnp satanic, you are so wrong and probably envious of Ate Salve. Ate Salve never pretended. Ate Salve always lived in humility, Ate Salve carried herself in a very Holy manner, loving everyone like our Lord Jesus did. Ate Salve was full of love and no one who experienced her presence can say what you say as satanic, nor an impostor or pretend in anyway shape or form. All of us who met Ate Salve felt so much loved and under the grace of God. Ate Salve experienced so many hateful people llike you but never hate or judge hateful people,even Priests n Nuns who vilified her, Ate Salve always said pray for those people, do not hate them but pray for them. You obviousky dont know who Ate Salve is, Ate Salve was, has been and will always be very close to the Lord and i personally admire her for her love, courage and for her love and obedience to God, for her pious and never ending prayer especially the rosary and for her love and devotion to Mother Mary, Lord Jesus and the Eternal Father, and Ate Salve never taught anythg against Catholic Church or Doctrine. If anything… Ate Salve said its purely…to hold on to our Catholic faith, to love God and God’s people, meaning everyone and to keep praying and have a true devotion to the Lord Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, attending masses, confession often, know love and serve the Lord our God, she also said…read the life of the Saints. So whoever you are calling bnp satanic, you are so wrong. I hope you will refrain from your evil intention I hope God will forgive you for sending all these horrible lies and deceit about bnp. You ate not doing yourself any favour in the eyes of God. People should be warned agaist your attack because i have attended bnp retreats and all ive experienced was nothing dangerous, only LOVE n FULL of GOD’s Words. We as bnp members are not perfect but like everbody else we try to live under the grace of God and under the guidance of Mather Mary, the way Ate Salve Loved and Obey God and devoted her life into prayer, loving and serving Gid and all the people. I have been strengthened and glued to Catholicism bcoz of Ate Salve. ITS NOT A CULT & ITS DEFINITELY NOT SATANIC. I AM PROUD TO BE A BNP & I WILL ALWAYS THANK GOD, MAMA MARY, ALL THE HOLY ANGELS & SAINTS, MY PATRON SAINT’S coz i moved around n i visit many Catholic Churches everywhere i go, since i became a BNP all i ever wanted… is to go to mass, so, whatever wrongful you say about BNP i hope God will forgive you. You really dont know Ate SALVE. I hope you will refrain from saying bad things about ATE SALVE because ATE SALVE n BNP is not satanic ATE SALVE is, was and ALWAYS HOLY. May God bless and forgive you