The following came from a July 9 email from a CCD reader.
Please join David Lehnhardt and other faithful Catholics in praying The Sacred Heart of Jesus Divine Mercy and The Immaculate Heart of Mary’s Rosary Friday evening, July 18, in reparation for San Diego “gay pride” weekend. Though this is primarily a Catholic event, all Christians of like mind and heart are invited to walk with us in solidarity.
We’ll meet at St. John the Evangelist parish, 1638 Polk Ave. in Hillcrest, for 5:45 p.m. Mass followed by 7:00 p.m. Adoration and Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament, and then begin our walk immediately afterward.
We’ll pray aloud the entire Rosary (all 20 decades) and the Divine Mercy Chaplet for purity and chastity as we walk the “pride” parade route along University and Sixth Avenues. Our walk will take us past many “gay” bars and other restaurants where many “pride”-goers will be partying. Please bring sacramentals, such as holy water and blessed salt, religious images, and crucifixes.
Last year, we had only a handful of prayer walk participants, and the crowds were very hostile to our presence. We expect similar hostility this year, so we really need more prayer warriors–and our Lord Jesus Christ needs us to be His witness in the midst of this satanic evil.
Please, please join us if you can. If you can’t, please pray for the prayer walkers and for the conversion of “pride” participants and enablers. Share this message with others, and invite your friends through Facebook at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/events/249581321832999/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming.
If you actually throw holy water or salt at someone, that would be grounds for the latest lawsuit against the Catholic Church.
Why would you personally want to throw anything at anyone?
Are you some kind of nut?
Why don’t you join those praying the Rosary instead?
If you are talking about “Exorcism” of the Devil, that is not done by the Laity.
CCC: “1673 When the Church asks publicly and authoritatively in the name of Jesus Christ that a person or object be protected against the power of the Evil One and withdrawn from his dominion, it is called exorcism.
Jesus performed exorcisms and from Him the Church has received the power and office of exorcizing. In a simple form, exorcism is performed at the celebration of Baptism.
The solemn exorcism, called “a major exorcism,” can be performed only by a priest and with the permission of the bishop.
The priest must proceed with prudence, strictly observing the rules established by the Church.
Exorcism is directed at the expulsion of demons or to the liberation from demonic possession through the spiritual authority which Jesus entrusted to his Church.
Illness, especially psychological illness, is a very different matter; treating this is the concern of medical science. Therefore, before an exorcism is performed, it is important to ascertain that one is dealing with the presence of the Evil One, and not an illness.”
Thank you Beth. Anony speaks out of fear. The more connected we are with God, the more embarrassed one would feel to make such a comment as Anony just said.
Yes all those sacramentals are necessary because walking near those places of sodomy, they truly carry strong spiritual war attacks and sometimes they can intimidate us because many of us are not prepared to face them.
I would like more of the Traditional element of the faith to join you, I recall in the past, it was usually a few of the devout NO parish church goers that would show up for such things.
Beth make sure you let the police know that you will be doing a peaceful prayer walk, which is your right, so they can keep you all safe. I admire the good you are all doing and it’s refreshing to hear of a Catholic parish be so involved in something this positive, I recall in the past, I knew of a few non-Catholic Christian groups that tried reaching out to homosexuals, but now to hear about this Catholic parish, it gives me hope. I wish I knew you back in the years when I use to do more.
I had a very good Catholic friend, God rest her soul, who set up prayer gathering too for many good causes. Especially one year, we all gathered protesting the “gay” last supper play. Even a holy priest showed up to pray with us. I miss those good ole days, maybe God will refresh me and I will once again be that person that use to do more, I just don’t have it in me anymore, my health and personal life crises just prevent me but I will be praying for you and who knows, God works in great ways. I will pray and throw myself at the cross begging God to bless all your good work! To protect you and bless you all! Don’t give up!
Don’t feel you’re failing, Abeca. You’re putting your efforts to what God has called you to do..your family comes first after our Lord and through your prayers and concern, you are still fighting the battle. May God continue holding you and your loved ones in the palm of His hand!
Holy water and Exorcist Salt will deliver the demonic spirits that are attached to the souls that are living in grave Mortal sin. YES .. it is TRUE.. Demonic Possession is real and when you are around those living in SIN of the Flesh the demons are with them. You can protect yourself and hopefully deliver those poor souls as well. It is a great sacramental gift from GOD.
Unless you are a Priest with permission of your Diocese Bishop,
YOU are not permitted to mess with exorcisms.
If you personally throw anything at anyone, you will most likely be arrested.
And rightfully so.
Jesus never threw anything.
HE did throw the money changers out of the Temple…..
Don’t tell the truth, it might offend someone, especially those who don’t mind offending , or worse, the followers of Christ.
John and Peggy, I don’t understand your post?
But he did not throw anything at anyone.
What did Jesus throw at any human being?
Inside a Temple is not a public sidewalk either.
Has the Bible been stricken of the account of Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple and overthrowing their tables? Jesus, just as his
father, did definitely display his anger when evil began corrupting his people.
We’re not Jesus. Only He has the authority to do what He feels. We need to act civilized and no throw anything and anyone.
We should be similarly zealous in the defense of God’s house – to include the Church and those souls in which He dwells by way of sanctifying grace.
Other than a few tables and chairs
Prove it. Chapter and verse please.
You are not going to get away with heresy.
And let’s not forget that He even made a little scourge of knots, and chased the immoral people out of His Father’s house with it like a whip.
Jesus is not the pacifist and ‘non-judgmental’ or ‘all accepting’ man immoral people would like to think He is.
God gave each of us a free will, with which each of us can use Heaven or Hell.
Jesus never made anyone follow Him.
He never threw anyone off public property either.
Some of you people are heretics.
Usually comments discouraging any good to do God’s work, are usually ones not coming from a heart of good will.
Our Lord Jesus judged and what He has judged, we must also do the same! What our God hates, we must also hate, what God loves, we must also love. We must be like minded in Christ and before we can be like minded with Christ, we must have a personal relationship with God! We must love Him with all our might, mind, and soul! Nothing else matters but to be pleasing to God. We must be decent and hold common sense in our Lord, so we can combat the indifference’s that many fall prey too.
God bless this precious Catholic witness! Jesus Christ is our love and our everything!
Jesus did not hate anyone. Just ejecting persons from His Father’s House is not hating them. During His Passion when He had every reason to hate, He asked His Father to forgive the persons who were killing Him.
Besides, He gave a New Commandment: “To love one another like I have loved you.” He also said to love your enemy and do good to those who would destroy you.”
Throwing anything at anyone from a public sidewalk is not God’s work.
Jesus never did anything of the sort.
Yes, be a prayer warrior. Of course there is hostility; homosexual sexualists — and far too many “Catholics” — will celebrate sodomy, and people that have turned towards their evil lust and away from God. Sadly, the chant of “God made me this way,” is the everywhere offered reason that sodomy will be smiled upon by God. Either the Bible is a crock, and the Church a liar throughout history, or the homofascists represent — along with abortionists, also widely praised and accepted in the USA — evidence of a living and reprehensible Lucifer, praying, no devouring, those that he tempts. Pray very hard for them, even though the homosexuals will scorn you, or worse. They know who you are, just as the demons in the possessed knew who Jesus was — and they asked that He let them enter into a nearby herd of swine, that turned mad and ran over cliffs into the sea. See, Mark 5:13. You are confronting the same “Legion” that are strong, very strong, among homosexual sexualists. Very difficult, but a true act of Catholic love and charity.
Amen, thank you for post.
You’re a liar and a charlatan. No one in the mother church refers to gay people as homo fascists-only people from evangelical groups user that kind of offensive hateful language. You’re not Catholic.
anonymous you are a coward to not use a name, you are the one who is not Catholic! Editors why have you allowed this anony post to use the word charlatan and liar to a Catholic? This anony person would very well be a homosexual activist, why else would this anony person bully in such a way! We can see what we are having to face, don’t let these anony persons discourage you, have convictions that are honorable to God and detest what God detests especially sins against the Natural law!
Before any commandment came to place to mankind, God gave His natural law first, then all rest commitments came after that!
Anonymous,
To post as “Anonymous” says coward to me. “Anonymous”
does not have the conviction nor cojones to attach his real name to his posts, but instead chooses to cower behind anonymity, the tactic of catty homosexuals.
Why not ask the CLERGY to lead?? Why not also hand out materials to people, on living a Christ-like moral life, of selfless love, service, chastity, and prayer?? Also, the group “COURAGE” should be active, ministering to the gay people! And where did the Legion of Mary go, and the Knights of Columbus?? They, too, should be walking with this group, and ministering to everyone! This kind of thing is desperately needed, in San Francisco, too!! We really do need powerful and holy Church leaders, to teach people how to lead a good, moral, truly Christian life– built on a strong daily Christian moral foundation, of daily practice of Virtue, especially CHASTITY, and selfless love, prayer, and service, for the glory of God— just for starters!!
because the clergy knows better than to get involved with this fringe group of nutjobs. the church is trying to attract more customers, not scare them away! and besides, they have their own issues to deal with like all those pedophile priests.
If you are alluding to the past abuse problem, it was more homosexual than anything else. Most of the victims were older than 12.
oh, so that makes it ok?
What would make you say that, someguy? Of course “it” isn’t okay. But let’s really name the problem so it can be properly addressed. That is if your objective is really to root out the problem and not just deflect or pander to the politically correct.
There is a homosexual problem within the Church, one which reflected itself most recently in the homosexual oriented predation of young men. Own it. Say it. Look at the data. Then attack the problem and get rid of it.
Not owning it only perpetuates the problem. That’s why when making a good confession, the first and foremost application is to ‘Know your Sins!’ Not masque sins or color them purple so they’re not so icky sounding.
Linda Maria why why why? To many why’s? Geese, just work with this group before you just keeping putting up more walls, don’t you know that even saints said that it would take the lay faithful to do God’s work! It only take a few to move hearts you know.
You just gave more ammunition to the gay activists with your comments of division! Many promote the Latin Mass but why are some not here with this group doing good? But any bad news of the Catholic church, there are those comments from some who promote the Latin Mass to bash the church but now that we read ones that are working God’s mission, there is always more flaws some want to nit pick on. I only say this because I recall comments in the past from this poster!
The question is “why” don’t you just join them that evening! Stop building more walls that divide and that don’t get things done! If you wait for what you ask to happen, then you will just make more excuses to not act and it will slow down the efforts many good try to get done! Don’t wait for others just do it!!
“and our Lord Jesus Christ needs us to be His witness in the midst of this satanic evil.”
YOU are the reason people are leaving the Catholic Church in droves. YOU do not show love or compassion, but rather judge others as being satanic.
I pity you for your narrow world view and the capacity you have shown to hate–and not love–your fellow man.
There is no “hate” here, but from you, ZRAinSWA……the prayer warriors are praying for the lost souls of their brothers and sisters who are “active” in the homosexual lifestyle–asking for their conversion from sin. That’s not hateful…..thats authentic love of their neighbor (just like the walk for life is). Why would anyone take time out of their busy lives to walk a parade route saying the rosary for people they do not even know?—–out of love, thats why. And ZRAinSWA, it’s not the “narrow world view” that you should worry about but the “narrow gate” to heaven.
Sandra, I am completely comfortable with my relationship with God, and your prayers and approval are neither needed nor desired. And just FYI, a lifestyle is owning a Mercedes and living in a big house or playing Ultimate frisbee. Being gay is not a ‘lifestyle’. It not something that is chosen, but rather what I am. Period. If it were possible to choose sexual identity, then you should therefore able to switch your own sexuality. Could you do that yourself? No, of course not. That’s foolishness.
If your God is so shallow that he would condemn those who are born a certain way, then He is a shallow bully unworthy of worship. Fortunately MY God is one of love, not one of hate and I am not at all worried about your fictitious “narrow gate”.
ZRAinSWVAHomosexual Acts are Mortal Sins, and you will go to Hell if you do not repent and try not to sin again.
Please let me know where in the Torah, Quoran, or Bible that God approves of sodomy? Unless you have made your sexual activities your own god.
Is this about praying for the conversion of sinners, or making a public display of disapproval of an entire class of people? Don’t answer that, everybody knows the answer already. If you were really concerned with their souls, you would follow Jesus precepts about prayer:
“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6″But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 7″And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.…”
I’m afraid you display your total ignorance when you quote this Bible passage. I remember counseling and praying outside the abortion clinics (death camps) and uninformed (or nominal Catholics-In-Name-Only) would shout out this passage to intimidate me. My first thought was how sad that they haven’t got a clue that they are being used by the Devil to persuade me to leave.
Perhaps you should read this….rescue those unjustly put to death…or the works of mercy…admonish the sinner…instruct the ignorant…Jesus confronted evil so must we…..
Of course you would go around pretending Christ’s own words don’t apply to you. Why would they apply to you? You are free to ignore his direct instructions about how to pray. Sure, pick and choose.
Yes, YFC, we should not show disapproval of an entire class of people. Your latest comment is such a good example of your lofty standards. You would never show your disapproval of an entire class of people, ever ever ever. When Orthodox Catholics read your comments, they can’t help but feel so loved.
You’re right!! Casting shame on others is all this does. Jesus would be so mortified about the sin of pride that is going on with all these judgmental “Christians”.
John, Where does it say in the Bible that Jesus wants anyone to TOLERATE Mortal Sin?
It does state that He wants us to judge with right judgment. – Jn7:24
If you love your neighbor you will not want him or her to spend eternity in Hell. – this is real love..
such hypocrisy! The gay pride parade in the past had gay men dress as nuns! They comment here judging Catholic Christians yet they mock nuns!
They judge this prayerful small group because they fear that it will grow and that they may change hearts, remember their goal (Gay agenda) is to normalize the “gay” lifestyle so they will discourage any peaceful attempt to move hearts in God’s direction. How can they preach what God loves when all they do is defy God and His natural law. They know nothing of what God really loves!
YFC….Look who’s picking and choosing?
YFC – are only the wicked sodomists permitted to be on a public sidewalk?
You of all people should be praying for these people.
Praying for the Souls of others also includes setting a good example; and I can’t thing of a better example than praying the Rosary.
Yes God loves, and yes God is merciful to those who repent, and yes God is just.
CCC: “2092 There are two kinds of presumption. Either man presumes upon his own capacities, (hoping to be able to save himself without help from on high),
or he presumes upon God’s almighty power or his mercy (hoping to obtain his forgiveness without conversion and glory without merit). ”
No repentance – no forgiveness – no Heaven.
YFC, if Jesus wanted us to only pray in private, we would not be going to Mass for His Eucharist.
You indeed are a hypocrite, and you could burn in Hell for purposely misquoting the intent in the Bible. – No one is praying on the sidewalk for adulation of others (which is what that Bible passage is about), in fact in this case they probably will suffer from insults and be spat upon.
The desire to follow the inclinations of the flesh are what leads people away from God and His Church, ZRAinSWA. Much like the rejection of house rules leads many to leave the largess of home so they can do whatever they please.
It’s an old story.
ZRAinSWA Ann Malley is right on! Listen to her!
and mb is correct! mb there are a lot of anti-Christian bigots in this blog, you’ll read them by how they promote their “gay” agendas and how they bully. They are the biggest judges, they judge everything that the Christians do to honor God.
We judge what our Lord has already judged and that is honorable and truly following Christ!
@ZRAinSWVA
The “do not Judge” and ” bigot” words are the “race cards” or our times.
If you read the bible, it compels us all to show the way to all who are going astray from God, to all who can’t find their way, and all who are lost.
All Christians have been commanded by Christ to help our erring brothers.
This is NOT judging. YOU however, will indeed be judged for not obeying this command…and more so, for berating those who do.
Matthew 6
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.
Throw ANYTHING at me and you’ll have a lawsuit on your hands. Guaranteed!
Quoting scripture yet you forget Leviticus’ clear warning against Sodomy. No one but Jesus will judge souls, yet each person is called to judge actions so as to warn those who stray from His commandments. All are sinners, yet we are to help each other through this valley of tears, ever wary that Satan exists, hell is real, and we could go there.
Too true, John! I must have misread your previous post, or you’re another John? I know I am sounding cranky today, but I’m just a poster, not an apologist. The whole idea of a gay pride parade is just so utterly repellent and absurd that I find it a challange not to speak out when I read some of these comments…like suing someone because they got sprinkled with holy water? They walk among us, and I’m know we’re called to love our enemies but, oh, my! it makes one want to throw up one’s hands or maybe just throw up?
That one was from John, the Lessor
….?
Strange how so many gay people check out these Catholic sites…
Yeah, I hope they will throw Holy water at them, for repentance, conviction, enlightenment and liberation.
mb …I read this site because I’m a Catholic who just happens to be a lesbian …and..like a lot of other gay people, I cross my self with holy water at least once a week.
C & H,
Repentence is possible even at the last moment of your life, sincere repentence and crossing yourself with Holy Water may prevent your being crossed with fire
for all eternity and admittance to Purgatory and the cleansing of your sin.
Jesus was referring to the religious leaders of the day who only cared about themselves. Witnessing and bringing people back to Christ, praying for their souls is not selfish and is in fact what Jesus told us to do….Confront evil…
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”
Hdtex is afraid of the holy water, he/she thinks it will melt him/her. I see someone is watching too many witchy poo movies. Ever watched real life movies like the RITE? I can understand why demons are afraid of holy water.
My attorney friend said that frivolous lawsuits are up on the rise. Go ahead waste your money suing, it won’t hold up. Plus the holy water is to bless the street and the path they walk on.
If any of those homosexuals spit on those praying, please sue them! For their spit is definitely not holy water! Their spit is meant to harm but holy water is meant for good!
Read the passage again. It says that the purpose of the hypocrites was to be seen by others and thereby thought to be more holy.
This prayer is for the help of others.
I’m confused, if your deity is all-powerful, why does he need human agents to carry out his bidding? If he has an issue with with the pride event or anyone participating, why can’t he just zap them with lightning, fire, lasers? Your god sounds very ineffective, you might want to look for a replacement who can carry out its own wishes.
Your arrogance towards God will change, either by a willful change of heart or through your judgement, which every soul encounters immediately upon death. Many scoff now but will wish they had turned to their Savior who still loves them.
if your deity can’t stop a single pride parade, i doubt it will be doing much to me or anyone else “immediately upon death.”
He gives everyone freewill, to see how they love or despise Him. At least you used the word “doubt” so perhaps you’re not 100 percent sure. If you are wrong and enter judgement without turning to him, it’s an eternity at stake. If I am wrong, I’ve missed out on some good times.
Where do you get the idea that sinning evokes good times? Quite the contrary. Trying to live as God wants you to becomes more difficult as you get better at it because the enemy works harder on you, but it is worth it. It gives a much deeper satisfaction than the shallow pleasure of sin.
Start with saying one Our Father every day.
it was a figure of speech. i don’t believe anything happens to me “immediately upon death.” other than my body starts decomposing.
if you want to believe in fairy tales and it helps you sleep better at night, that’s your problem. but your god doesn’t exist any more than any of the over 28,000,000 gods that humanity has believed in at one point or another over history (look it up, true fact). amazing how everyone always feels their god is the best!
I won’t be able to attend but I will definitely keep all those making prayer on July 18th in my prayers. I pray for all children of God who have gone astray in their use of their bodies, as well as for their families, for courage and perseverance for those participating in the prayer walk and for all those who have posted comments.
Harrasment. But you know if they were to do the same to you at your events they would be called “bullies” who are “persecuting” you.
It must be great knowing that you have the same “values” as savages like the KKK, Nazis, and Al Qaeda towards LGBT human beings.
It always amazes me that there are such ignorant bigots still carrying such uninformed, naive assessments about Christianity outside of paganism and islam. If you had any understanding of the kkk, for example, you would know they were precursers of the modern democratic party. Southern democrats up to and including Lyndon Johnson were racists and bigots. Actually, I’m so utterly bored with the specious, mean-spirited but oh-so-predictable outbursts of liberals that I’m not wasting another word.
Dana we shouldn’t care what they say. Have you noticed during an exorcism, the demon talks and talks, mocking, discouraging and using what it can to stop any good? Notice….this is the same. Just watch any documentaries of exorcisms and see how it all acts the same. They want you to argue back but notice that the priest performing the exorcism, he ignores the comments and carries on with holy words, it does not entertain or acknowledge what the demons are saying.
It’s too bad that there will be no clergy leading this prayer group. And I agree, where is the Legion of Mary, the Knights of Columbus? A handful of lay faithful, while commendable is going to be attacked and lambasted and vilified as if they are just some ragtag group of extremists, when the truth is at least 1/2 of the Catholics in the pews are not proponents of the homosexual agenda. I wish I could say 100%, but we know that’s not the case. God bless you and your efforts. Prayers for all.
Good post, LS. I will put these brave souls in my prayers as well. They would do well to pray for protection against demons, vicious animosity and hatred to be bound and contained, as well. It’s like walking into a black sabbath coven. How I wish the luke warm, neutered Catholics could be spiritually reawakened once again.
LS its called fear.
For those making the parallel of walking the streets praying the rosary to coming into a Catholic Church and interrupting mass: please note that the streets are public, people have the right to walk and speak in the streets; while the mass is a remembrance service — “do this in memory of me”. It is a solemn event and yes, it would be rude to say the least to interrupt it. Would you walk into someone’s house purposely to interrupt or disturb them?
But to tell people they cannot walk down a street while praying sounds more like a dictatorship to me.
Hence the term homofascists, Benna! They continually and continuously perpetuate the myth that they are martyrs and persecuted victims. Ugh. It’s like pedophiles rising up in anger because they have to report their new addresses. Since when does sexual promiscuity and unsanitary sexual habits give anyone the privelege of comparing themselves to black people fighting for civil rights? These people have the same rights and privileges as ALL American citizens. What these bullies want is for everyone to congratulate them and approve of their licentiousness and dishonour to God and His commandments. They’ve got the backing of some very rich and powerful people who are trying to turn this country into an amoral, lawless morass of evil. Money is all that talks these days. They won’t be able to buy their way into Heaven or to pay enough to change Church teachings, however. Poor, deluded souls.
Dana, dear, judge much?
I’m now in the 28th year of my relationship. No promiscuity there, sorry. And just to educate you, when you have sex with your husband, please keep in the mind that the urethra also carries pee, so how unsanitary is that? And do you ever have sexual relations during your special time of the month?
We do NOT have the same rights and privileges, and for you to say so demonstrates how willfully blind you are to the struggles of those around you. My spouses’ brother was gay, and was beaten to death with a tire iron. The murderer was found but not prosecuted because of the prejudice of law enforcement and courts at that time. I suffered years of abuse for being gay. I can, right now, be fired in Virginia JUST for being gay–which is just one example of the many ways LGBT folks can be discriminated against by others. We are not bullying you, but rather standing up against the hate and discrimination and bigotry of people like, well, perhaps you.
You need a good history lesson on how your Bible was constructed and written and what it is and is not, and how the Catholic Church has wielded the Bible and papacy as a sword to gain power and wealth and to control the masses. I personally think the Catholic Church was one of the most evil institutions ever created, and I’m glad to see it moderate itself in recent years.
Oooh, that was a difficult post to read, zra…slogging my way through the blur of such condescension and arrogance was rather like a sidetrip through Okefenokee Swamp…even my glassy are foggy! I have no doubt y’all’s lessons and interpretations of the Bible and Church teachings would provide a veritable wonderland of new insights that I would never have imagined but the CCC and the Douray-Rheims and Ignatius Study Bible have been faithful old companions for years and it sounds like the world through your glasses is a pretty dog-eat-dog-everyone’s-out-to-get-me kinda place, God bless your pea-pickin’ little ole heart.
Well, please let me know when they do one in downtown san diego around the straight clubs in reparation for the sins of straight ppl. Different bibles say different things, I’m pretty sure he didn’t pick up every person (money changers), but caused commotion by flipping their tables and chasing them out. He also ate with sinners, drunkards, gluttons, and tax collectors. Pretty sure he didn’t picket.
No, He straightened them out. (Excuse the pun.) By the way, there are many who pray in adoration before the Blessed Sacrament in churches for ALL sinners, jayjay, they do not leave out anyone.
Calling people, whether liars, adulterers, or thieves, “satanic” is just awful. I’m a devout Catholic, and I think this is the worst thing I’ve ever read. The people who wrote this and advocate this type of abusive name calling are guilty of the sin of PRIDE! Jesus is our advocate (not an accuser) and responds to all with love and compassion. This march is a feigned attempt at “converting” people, and exposing the marcher’s sin of pride. Convert yourselves first, and repent from the sin of pride. May God restore us to peace and forgive us all our trespasses. Praise God for His love and forgiveness. Leave judgement to Satan.
haha. Oh, the irony. The sin of pride??? When a host of people who despise Church teachings are parading down public streets proclaiming “Gay Pride”. Duh! And leave judgment to Satan? Um, I hate to disillusion you John, your being such a devout Catholic and all, but it will Jesus Christ judging souls. You might think it unfair and mean to point out peoples sins, but that’s what all the apostles, saints, bishops etc. have done through the centuries. If your best friend won’t tell you, who will? Jesus most assuredly will be our accuser. Wow, you’re wrong on so many levels it’s mindboggling. Where do you people get these strange ideas?? I would highly recommend your reading the entire book of Mathew without delay. You obviously have never read it or taken a serious Bible study. Pray first. Then read what Jesus REALLY said about Hell and judgment. Your eyes really need opened! Also, here’s the entire statement of what Jesus said about taking out the plank out of your own eye….
1JUDGE not, that you may not be judged, 2For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3Any why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye? 4Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and THEN SHALT THOU SEE TO CAST OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THY BROTHER”S EYE.
6Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you.”
Why do you suppose Jesus added that about not giving that which is holy to dogs? These people who are faithful to God, His Word, and His Church are not some prejudiced, ignorant bigots but are sinners who know what it is to confess their sins, humble themselves before God and to share that hard won knowledge with other sinners who have no idea, apparently, that they are sinning GRAVE sins. If we do not tell sinners, it is we who are accountable. If they hear the truth and reject, they are a dogs who reject the pearl of wisdom. Any Catholic who believes it is wrong to try to bring sinners to repentence should read what Christ says about you. Please read your Bibles and your CCC!!~
Great posts Dana!
Thanks Catherine! When John mentioned his fine Jesuit education, flashbacks of previous artifcles and posts of other Jesuit ‘educated’ people came to mind…Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown, Gary Wills, et al.
God bless you!
Apparently Dana doesn’t read her own posts.
Is it that obvious, YFC? Was it the spelling errors or improper grammar that gave me away? I usually give your posts a miss too unless they’re unusally short like this one…saves wear and tear on my credibility brain cells. They tend to take a beating on this website. ;o)
I can readily sympathize with your brain cells too!
Dana, I am educated in a Jesuit University so I don’t have to tell you what that means. When I said, “leave the judgement to Satan”, it is who does not understand. When we judge one another, we put ourselves on par with Satan, the great accuser. Perhaps I should’ve explained myself better. Your “ha ha’s and your duhs” speak volumes in terms of your education. Inciting people on the street to anger is NOT of Jesus, nor the answer. Perhaps you should read Matthew 6:5. God Bless because I’ve said my peace. If you disagree, then so be it.
“Dana, I am educated in a Jesuit University so I don’t have to tell you what that means.” = It means that you were lied to and misled when you were erroneously taught this slippery slogan. “When we judge one another, we put ourselves on par with Satan, the great accuser.”
If you truly believed that ol’ slippery slogan from the *anything goes* charm school of apathy then you would not have just put yourself on a par with Satan when you judged Dana’s ha has and duh’s and education. – You’re inconsistency speaks volumes.
John,
Thanks for telling us you were “educated” by Jesuits, that explains a good deal of your rants and raves!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc
Again that was from John, the Lessor.
John, All these Gay Pride parades are about one thing; celebrating Sodomy and you don’t think that’s evil? or against God’s plan for man or Santanic? Yes, Jesus does love all with compassion but he also has conditions. Those include how we are to conduct ourselves in this life to avoid being condemned. I commend those people, few that they may be, saying the Rosary and acknowleging God as they walk in the lion’s den of inequity being cursed and spat upon, just like our Lord was. As far as judgment goes, unless you are a rock all human beings make judgments all day long and that includes defining what is good and what is bad. Jesus, Himself called the High Priests of Israel scorpions and hypocrites. In your mind all these parades in which sin is glorified and promoted we as Christians are supposed to act “mum and dumb”.and say nothing. That’s not expected of Chrisitians by God even if we get perscuted, which we will. In finality Sister Lucia of Fatima, visited by our Holy Mother was told by Her that many souls are lost because of sins of the flesh. That includes heterosexual and homosexual. All are not Heaven bound.
Pete, these parades do NOT celebrate sodomy. Would straight people have a parade celebrating fornication? No, of course not. It’s a celebration of love and acceptance from being bullied, harassed, discriminated against, maligned, tortured (in some countries) and even put to death. (Iran, etc.). Jesus conveys to us, (if we but listen), that real sin is in the form of judgement (pride) and not in people loving one another. There are worse sins than homosexual sex between two loving adults. Accept this, and ask the Holy Spirit for His counsel to enlighten your mind and heart. Peace to you.
Well, at least you admit that homosexual sex is sinful.
John…Please don’t blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Two of the works of mercy: instruct the ignorant and counsel the doubtful are not sins of pride. Did Jesus commit the sin of pride when he overturned the tables of the moneychangers? Your sin against the Holy Spirit is worse than any fantasy sin of pride you claim opponents of disordered sexual preferences have.
John says: July 11, 2014 at 8:50 am,
You need to learn your Faith, Judgment is not of Satan, but of God!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Go prayer warriors!
FrMichael,
Thanks, but we prayer warriors need good priests and religious to lead us! Very few of them seem to want to join us on the front lines. SAD!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Would someone please tell us when our Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ condoned sodomy?
He doesn’t, that’s what infuriates these poor souls. And a bunch of mean people they can be.
He also didn’t condone adoption, airplanes, or aspirin.
A long list of things he didn’t condone.
Of course He condoned adoption, that is our adoption as sons of God, Anonymous. But true sons of God wouldn’t go around promoting that which is an abomination to the Father they love. Or do you just use your parents for what you can get out of them? I wonder.
Ann, I wouldn’t spend too much time wondering about whether or not I use my parents for what I can get out of them. After all, you know nothing about me or my circumstances. Not knowing my age, my wealth, my personality, my proclivities, nor even whether or not my parents are even alive, anything you might conclude would reveal everything about you and your biases, and nothing about me and the state of my relationships.
I’d also ask that you don’t use ad hominem attacks on me. Implying things about me and my relationships is not only baseless, it also fails to address any arguments I put forth and prohibits intelligent dialogue.
Not spending too much time on it, Pete. As for the perceived personal attacks, don’t ask for it. Better still, try setting the example of how you wish to be treated instead of using go nowhere rhetoric such as Our Lord supposedly not condoning aspirin.
Be the change you want to see, pete. Or don’t complain about being a biter who will similarly be put into a playpen with fellow biters. Hopefully, you learned your lesson of the day.
The lesson I am learning about you is that I was pretty much on target about you, not in that I have met you or know you personally, but I’m increasingly familiar with how you like to portray yourself. If you don’t like the inference, then change the narrative, pete. You may want to spend some time on that, too.
“He also didn’t condone adoption, airplanes, or aspirin.
A long list of things he didn’t condone.” = That comment speaks volumes.
It is never an act of charity to know that you can easily shoot or trap fish in a barrel yet some fish prefer to remained clustered in the mirky water without realizing that they are just begging to be caught!
“After all, you know nothing about me or my circumstances.” = Circumstances coupled with God’s grace can shape a Godly man or a Godly woman or circumstances without God’s grace can shape a lifetime of excuses to remain in the mirky water.
What a bunch of bigots some religious people are, you can’t mind your own business so you have to make your business everyone else, even if they don’t agree with you.. I left the church over 50 years ago and could be happier. Also there are tons of gay churches so whats the point of all of this, your just going to turn more people away from your faith unless thats what you want, so be it.
Judas left the Church too, and look where he is.
Juergensen yes that is true and sad. If Judas would of just trusted in Jesus but he didn’t, he despaired. Such a tragedy. The huge difference is that Judas should of known better, he knew Jesus personally, in person. Jesus, who moves hearts and is love, even Judas who was with Him, still despaired.
Juergensen many throw out the word bigot in things that do not apply, if they only knew that they were the real bigots, they are the Anti-Christian bigots, the biggest of them all!
Yes, in the gutter, and trying to pull others down there with him.
Who are the bigots?
Right. And gay people never recruit. I have had it with gay recruiting. I was recruited while in the Boy Scouts in the 50’s and see “gay pride” today. An ealier poster said that pride was the only sin, well then why is the parade called that?
I also like the Freudian slip made by another poster when he said he left the church 50 years ago and could be happier Truth will out..
If you believe in minding your own business, what are you doing on a Catholic web site?
So, Johny dick, why are you here commenting of this Catholic Site?
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Don’t forget to wear your cilices and chastity belts. Can’t be too careful, you know.
Shameful, not comments from a real Christian.
Is that a threat?
The annual Tax Subsidized Anti-Male Hate Riot / SF Dyke March was a real sight to see – from the steps of Mission Dolores Church, as the ‘repairs’ to the Park left the Twysted Systers to gridlock the whole area – to feed their Misandrist Hate of the ‘HeteroPatriarchy’:
SEE
Dyke March kicks pride festivities into high gear (SFGate)
In a year when San Francisco is undergoing disruption of all sorts, the city’s Dyke March on Saturday began with a rally held not in Dolores Park – fenced off and torn up – but on the adjacent streets…
The ongoing ambitious redo of the rally’s usual site, Dolores Park, pushed the event to Dolores Street, where instead of a stage, there was a flatbed truck. Its speakers were no match for the revving of motorcycles lining up for the parade.
One local LGBT political club marched behind a banner, and there was the occasional sign along the lines of “Crush Capitalist Patriarchy.”
At 6 p.m. the revving became official, and the Dykes on Bikes began heading out on 18th Street; 23 bikes, to be exact, then a film crew and then at least four dozen more. Police held back the crowd so that a motorized cable car could follow. Then, carefully, the flatbed truck backed into place and followed the cable car.
“I still prefer that men don’t march. If they’re joining us, ‘in solidarity,’ that means they don’t get it,” (A founding psychodyke Misandrist mused).
McDermott doubles down on his lie that the Dyke march started from the steps of Mission Dolores Church. As I have pointed out to him and to all of you, this is a blatant lie…the public website of the Dyke march itself says they started at Mission High School TWO BLOCKS AWAY. Yet he continues to lie about this. Now I suppose he has changed his rhetoric ever so slightly: Apparently HE participated in the Dyke March from the steps of Mission Dolores.
Think he’s just saying the route went down Dolores street. He watched from the safety of the steps of the church, possibly to avoid violating a restraining order.
To be fair, two blocks away is close enough that it’s acceptable figurative language to say it started on the steps of the mission anyway. Dolores Park (formerly a cemetery) and the entire vicinity would have been the grounds of the mission before it was developed in the 1880s. The mission was farmland and predates the neighborhood by a century.
It’s funny to see someone complaining about traffic in the Mission/Castro area on Pink Saturday. Market street is blocked off, and there’s so much pedestrian traffic that if you’re driving through it, you’re well aware of what you’re getting into. 60-odd bikes barely registers as a motorcycle rally goes. The Republic of Texas Biker Rally draws around 200,000.
But really, if you’re responding to a post that contains the use of “psychodyke” and a degree of overreaction that reaches comic absurdity, why take issue with a slight exaggeration?
In case anyone missed the Links to the ‘independent’ stories (the Frisco Chronicle is rarely independent, but sometimes even they admit the facts) about Roaring Hate spewed by the Annual SF Dyke March…
Or were led astray by Homo-Anal Coprophile Trolls too cravenly cowardly to ever identify themselves or their affiliations / SSADs…
SEE
Dyke March kicks pride festivities into high gear (SFGate)
… the city’s Dyke March on Saturday began with a rally held not in Dolores Park – fenced off and torn up – but on the adjacent streets…
– pushed the event to Dolores Street, where instead of a stage, there was a flatbed truck. Its speakers were no match for the revving of motorcycles lining up for the parade.
“I still prefer that men don’t march. If they’re joining us, ‘in solidarity,’ that means they don’t get it,” (A founding psychodyke Misandrist mused).
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/Dyke-March-revs-up-the-crowds-for-Pride-weekend-5587452.php
“Men told not to rain on parade Unity key to Dyke March / 50,000 expected at S.F. Dyke March 50,000 expected — MEN NOT ADVISED
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/Men-told-not-to-rain-on-parade-Unity-key-to-Dyke-2746314.php
Michael … Sounds like you had a great time at the Dyke march .. Seriously, most of us women, gay or straight, just LOVE the men in our lives but
sometimes we just want to hang out together. Really, nothing misandrist about it.
No one plans to throw holy water or anything else at anyone. As in years past, we’ll bring plastic jugs of holy water and let it drip on the sidewalk as we peacefully pray along the parade route. And yes, homosexuality IS a satanic evil because it perverts and rejects God’s creation of male and female and His command that they be fruitful and multiply; we make no apology for saying so. Homosexual behavior is a choice and a mortal sin, not an inborn identity. So, out of love and concern for souls, we will pray along the parade route as we do each year. We will be humble witnesses to Jesus Christ’s light and truth in the midst of San Diego’s sinful and foolish “gay pride” celebration.
When did you choose to be straight? Satanic evil? This is absurd. Satanic evil to me is worshipping Satan. Can you say with conviction, that everyone at this parade worships Satan? Many are devout Christians with families. They love, and they don’t have the capacity to hate. On the other hand, your presence may incite hateful behavior (such as foul words and arguments) which has consequences. Why not go march in front of straight bars and porn clubs? Marriages are falling apart because straight people can’t get their heads out of strip clubs, drugs and booze. What’s going on in your own personal life that justifies any of this? Stay at home and pray. I know I will be. However, I will be praying for those who engage in the sin of Pride. And not gay Pride, either.
Satanic evil is anything Satan approves of and he definitely loves the pride parades. “Devout Christians” at pride parade?? Maybe deluded, don’t-have-a-clue people calling themselves Christian are there. And yes, porn drunkenness, drugs, not to mention adultery, fornication and other immorality is also gravelly sinful. People that are born with or develop attractions for these vices must fight them to gain heaven and it is often a lifetime battle.
“someguy” and “Your Fellow Catholic”: First of all, prayer warriors are not “nutjobs” but are fulfilling Christ’s command to bring His Word to pagans and to “convert” the world. You, and other Homofascists are willfully ignorant about the acceptability of sodomy. Oh, you might win a legal victory here and there, but the Catholic Church is right to always hold out that homosexual sex is always and everywhere an occasion of mortal sin. Further, you are wrong to say that the Church needs to be concerned about “pedophile priests” — they are homosexual priests. And, “YFC” you simply cannot be serious in your comment attempting to compare the hypocrites that Christ attacks for their public manifestations of holiness and alms-giving. Pray warriors are just the opposite — like the apostles and disciples, they go into harm’s way to witness and preach the Word, among people who revile them. Your silliness must come from the day’s Democratic Party talking points. Homosexual sex is morally wrong, a mortal sin, and these brave people are attempting to point out that “Gay Pride” celebrations are nothing more than worshipping the Devil. It is too bad that so many Catholic priests belong to these same sodomy-loving worshippers.
Anonymous, there have been both gay and straight pedophile priests. So if you want to eliminate a sexual orientation from the priesthood because a few of them were molesting youngsters, you would have to do away with the priesthood altogether. Or maybe this is a good argument for women priests. Moreover, Dear Anonymous, my words came directly from the Gospels, they are not silliness, unless you believe Christ himself, taught silliness when he taught us how to pray. If you think Christ is silly, perhaps you should go back inside that closed room and pray some more.
YFC…Oh, no you don’t…You’re absolutely wrong!
80% of the Priest sex abuse scandal involved homosexual abuse. The majority! Pedophilia accounted for 5% and female abuse less than 15% and that could have included consensual sex even though it was also sinful. The abuse involved some 2-4% of all Priests, leaving 96-98% of all Priests innocent. So please with your revisionist history or intentional lie.
PS – Jesus chose only men for the Priesthood so give it up, it’s doctrinally defined
” Dear Anonymous, *my words* came directly from the Gospels,” = False. Your sly words lead many souls to hell, including your own soul unless you repent.
” Now the serpent was more subtle than any of the beasts of the earth which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman: Why hath God commanded you, that you should not eat of every tree of paradise?” Genesis 3:1 Douay -Rheims Catholic Bible
“And the serpent said to the woman: No, you shall not die the *death*. ” Genesis 3:4 Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
There was less than 4 percent of the priesthood involved, yet all priests are smeared by media, hollywood and anti-Catholic bigots all around America. Of these horrid attacks, over 80 percent were homosexual in nature on adolescent boys, not infants nor toddlers. But lovers of homosexuality try to deceive the reader with the “it was pedophilia” lie. Stand up for the overwhelming majority of priests who surrender their lives to serve the church Jesus established. As for women priests, Pope John Paul II’s remark was, as I fondly recall, “It’s a long, long way to Tipperary”.
Great work David Lehnhardt!!! You are a man of great virtue and courage. If I am in town, I will definitely join you guys. If I can’t make it, please be assured of my prayers and support GOD BLESS
Having walked and prayed, not judged, the parade route last year, I can tell you we do this out of love. Believe me, we have better things to do on a Friday night. You would only do this if you cared.
Here is the key, no one is telling these folks that what they are engaging in is not only sinful, but a dangerous lifestyle. All of you have been quick to point out all the other sins, but not sodomy. Why? You are fearful of being called a bigot, a hater and worse. Is it loving to keep silent on the diseases that gays have and will get? Go to the secular Center For Disease Control and see the epidemics happening in the gay community. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. What about the lack of monogomy in the gay world? The numbers of partners in an average gay persons lifetime is staggering. The life span of a gay person is much shorter vs the
hetero lifestyle. Not to mention the suicide rate and mental illness. And the studies that these statements were pulled from come from The Netherlands and similar liberal countries.
Yet, there is this pressure to skirt these very serious issues aside and push this lifestyle on younger and younger kids. Without telling them the truth and the dangers.
Diane, what about the lack of monogamy in the heterosexual world? What about the divorce rate? What about the #1 confession by straight people to a priest? It’s PORN!!! Gays do not have more STD’S than heterosexuals. These figures are skewed and meant to incite revulsion and hatred. Many Christian people I know have sexually transmitted diseases. No one is pushing “gay” on anyone. I know many gays and not one that I know of has pushed their “agenda” on a child. That’s pedophilia and a whole different subject. You think telling people that they are engaging in “sin” will change them. This is where the sin of pride seeps in, according to Pope Francis. When we become the judge, we sin greatly as that role belongs to Our Lord. He judges according to what is in people’s hearts, not what they do with a beloved same sex partner. Pray, Diane for yourself, for everyone who engages in the horrible sin of pride. And I pray for you as well that you may find the interior peace you so ardently desire. May God Bless you.
Our Lord calls the sin of sodomy an ABOMINATION. Don’t kid yourself that Our Lord doesn’t judge “what they do with a beloved same sex partner.” It is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance.
Stella I admire your convictions in Christ, they are very honorable and genuine! God bless you for honoring God and His natural law!
Right back at ya Abeca!
John,I was a child and had a lesbian try and push her “agenda ” on me. So you are a liar, at least once. Most sinners such as the ones posting know they are prideful, most homosexuals admit it too, but with their perverted sex, and promote it as a normal wonderful thing, another lie, twisted around and deformed. They will become Holy only by coming to Jesus, who would be their strength and their help; With His help they can resist their sin and be forgiven and put on the”new man” which is Christ Jesus the Lord.
tanya your words are of a noble element. They honor God and are very honest! God bless you and continue in Christ!
Diane asks about the lack of monogamy in the gay world. If gays were monogamous, would that make it less objectionable to you? If so, why do you advocate to witthhold marriage from “the gay world”?? If monogamy really mattered to you, wouldn’t you want to create the social support for monogamy, which for all intents and purposes, IS marriage. This is what I honestly don’t understand about marriage opponents: They think that gays need marriage to have sex, which is obviously not true, and yet they are opposed to the one societal institution that exists to create & promote more stable and mutually supportive relationships. I have to wonder whether opponents of same sex marriage realize they are promoting MORE gay sex, not less…MORE sexually transmitted diseases not less, and MORE depression and substance use not less, all things that having stable (ie marital) relationships are proven to reduce.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: Any illogical argument will do, eh YFC? It is the “homosexual world” that demands “marriage”. And, no Catholic, at least no practicing Catholic, can support such “marriage” in any event, for any reason. Pretty simple — Yes? Secondly, homosexual sexual activities are always immoral, always mortal sins — always. Pretty simple — Yes? Thirdly, based on any guidelines, homosexuals view sexual relations, and have far more sex, and have far more STDs than do non-homosexuals having sexual relations. Pretty simple — Yes? Fourthly, sexual relations outside of marriage is a mortal sin, every time; it is called “fornication” and is soundly condemned in the Bible and Catholic teachings of a wide variety. Pretty simple — Yes? Homosexual sexualists must repent of their sexual sins, condemn them publicly, and refrain from engaging in such activities for the remainder of their lives; that is, if they wish to enter Heaven. Pretty simple — Yes? Lastly, “Gay Pride” celebrations celebrate the non-justifiable, the irredeemable, the unholy and must be eliminated, that is for all practicing Catholics. Pretty simple — Yes?
Yes, St. Christopher, you have a pretty simplistic notion of most things, including these things. 1) Nowhere in the Tradition of the Church is it said that no Catholic can support a civil society and government that issues marriage licences that the Church herself does not condone. Simple, eh? Otherwise, Catholics couldn’t participate in secular government at all, simple, right? 2) No activity is always and everywhere a mortal sin. Certain activities are always grave matters, which when undertaken by a culpable individual, constitute mortal sins. Pretty simple, eh? 4 ) Your generalizations (and Diane’s) about how many STD’s a CLASS of people have is not a measure of the morality of individuals within that class. Otherwise, those straight people who have STDs would impugn the entire straight world. simple, right? And besides, you completely missed my point, which is that people in stable relationships, whether gay or straight, have far few STDs, substance abuse issues, depression and suicide than those not in those stable relationships. And the ONE stabilizing influence that states can offer to relationships is the issuance of marriage licenses. What could be simpler than that??
Sorry, “Your Fellow Catholic,” but your examples, and theology, are wrong, and shallow. Instead of reason, logic, and Faith, you offer endless attempts to justify homosexual sex and homosexual marriage, in a way that could be acceptable to the Catholic Church. Actually, all homosexual sexual activity is a mortal sin. Willful ignorance of the grave nature of that offense is no excuse to whether it represents a mortal sin. Culpability is not a defense to a homosexual who “feels compelled” to commit homosexual sex. Why can’t you see this? Homofascists have hijacked the APA and then attempt to force everyone to rely on the APA endorsement of the “normality” of homosexual sex. You have many denials, and name calling, and no substance, at any level, to your arguments, except the tantrum: “I want to do it.” Go ahead, just leave the Catholic Church out of it, and respect the many Americans that are disgusted with homosexual behavior and demands. Your point — always very obvious — is never missed; you just ignore the many direct posts against what you say. You know, Hitler loved dogs, large German families, children, vegetables, and he hated smoking: but, surprise, these traits did not make Hitler a nice and admirable man.
Awesome post, St. Christopher. I am so glad you noted that Hitler liked large *German* families. My goodness I needed this tonight. Thanks and God bless!
St. Christopher, if a man is raped by another man, has he committed a mortal sin? If a man is drugged to the point that he is unable to exercise good judgement and has sex with another man, is he committing a moral sin by the act? If a man consents to having sex with another man in a prison under threats of violence or death, is he committing a mortal sin? I think the answers to one or more of these situations is that no, the person has not committed a mortal sin. Please keep that in mind.
Skewed logic YFC re opponents of ss so called marriage promoting more STD’s etc. FYI YFC, Our Lord instituted the sacrament of marriage to unite one man and one woman and bond them to any children they may create. No earthly ruler can alter that. Yes, laws may be passed, and they may be enforced, and I fully expect there will be martyrs raised who oppose this unjust legislation, but those responsible for passing these laws will be held accountable at judgement day.
Stella, we are not talking about the Sacrament of Matrimony instituted by Our Lord. We are talking about civil marriage licenses issued by the State. We have a first amendment, which prohibits the state from involving itself in the Sacraments, or have we forgotten that?
YFC, whether we are talking holy matrimony or a civil ceremony, marriage was still intended by God to be between one man and one woman and no human has the authority to change that.
Stella for most of human history, in most cultures, marriage has always meant between one man and several women. So, how do you figure out that God intended this equation that no human authority can change? Even many old testemant patriarchs had more than one wife. How, then do we divine that God’s intention is between one man and one woman? Do you really believe that the Catholic Church has the authority to determine who is married and who is not by civil authorities? Do you not believe in the first amendment? Do you think that two Jews who get married are engaged in a Sacrament?
SODOMY marriage is a MORTAL SIN that sends unrepentant Souls to Hell.
Never encourage or support Sodomy marriage.
Now these sodomites are infringing on our freedoms and insisting we accept their lifestyle.
The mortal sins they commit in the privacy of their own home is their own business, now they want us to remotely participate in their sodomy with approval and government benefits.
YFC asks: “… How, then do we divine that God’s intention is between one man and one woman?”
How about the words of Christ, YFC. Good gravy. Seriously?
YFC, your line of questioning is a little bizarre for saying you are a fellow Catholic!
Yes, the Catholic Church does have the authority to determine who is validly married and who is not, and this is evident when annulment and remarriage is being considered. The Church pronounces some marriages invalid – for example, someone who has been civilly married and then divorced would be able to get married in a Catholic Church because the Church does not recognize civil marriages, it would be as if the person were never married, whereas someone who had been married in a Episcopal Church would need to seek annulment as it is considered sacramentally valid.
The Church will never recognize same sex so called marriage, no matter what.
Here’s what Masha Gessen, lesbian journalist says about same sex so called marriage:
“It’s a no-brainer that (homosexual activists) should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. …(F)ighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.
The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change. And again, I don’t think it should exist. And I don’t like taking part in creating fictions about my life. That’s sort of not what I had in mind when I came out thirty years ago.
I have three kids who have five parents, more or less, and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally… I met my new partner, and she had just had a baby, and that baby’s biological father is my brother, and my daughter’s biological father is a man who lives in Russia, and my adopted son also considers him his father. So the five parents break down into two groups of three… And really, I would like to live in a legal system that is capable of reflecting that reality, and I don’t think that’s compatible with the institution of marriage.”
Ann Malley, sorry, I don’t think Jesus explicitly said anything about taking more than one wife, especially because it was not an issue in the culture into which he was born.
Stella, no argument at all that the Church can say who is validly married for Church purposes. We don’t disagree there. What I am asking is the validity of civil marriages. CIVIL marriages, not sacrmental marriages. The Church has no authority to decide whether two people are CIVILLY married.
Stella thank you for posting and exposing what the gay agenda is all about from Masha Gessen! Truly a distorted type of family they are trying to accomplish and are. They go against everything that our Lord is all about in terms of the Holy family. And not only that, even if someone isn’t Catholic Christian, the Natural law ordered by God for all mankind to honor, applies to all humans and all creatures. As we have seen in history what happens when when mankind does not follow His natural law.
Stella and others who seek the truth, Good for you for doing your research. God bless you. Its nice to read about more true Catholics doing the responsible thing and knowing the truth about “gay” activism and what it truly stands for and what it means to title oneself as a gay.
YFC, you don’t need to think so much as to read what is said. (Kind of like knowing that one should stop at a red light.)
Jesus specifically states what marriage is. If you reject that in favor of ambiguity that is your issue, much like your promotion of sodomy as good.
Stella …. I read Masha Gessens stuff from time to time. She is a mainstream journalist who is best known for her exposure of Putin’s totalaterianism. She wanted to stay in Russia and fight for democracy and civil society, however because the Duma is trying to pass a law that would have the government take away the children of gay people and put them in orphanages, she took advantage of her US citizenship and came back with her family to America. In spite of her unusual views on marriage, which are not shared by most lesbians, she and her partner got civilly married in New York shortly after they arrived. he’s entitiled to her opinions, but I don’t think very many people, straight or gay, are going to buy into them
C&H, once marriage is redefined anything is possible. We are already seeing “thrupples” and worse.
Diane your words are filled with truth and true charity! God bless you, it is so nice to see posts here that are honoring to God and true care for our fellow men. Your words are often said here on this website to regular homosexuals who post here, they have come here to harass and bully those of faith here. But of course, we know that we are here to please God, not give in to their tantrums.
So keep on and your words are so honest and genuine, they are a true witness in God. I would love to meet you. For years it felt like there weren’t many with the same convictions but reading some of the posts here that honor God, sure gives one hope! Praise Be Jesus Christ!
“Anne Malley”: Your support is much appreciated. Space apparently ran out, as the remainder of the post continued with the following: “Exclusivity is not a substitute for morality, as a brother and sister that commit to monogamous incestuous sex are hardly moral. Further, the Church cannot support a “civil society and government” that embraces evil (“YFC” do you ever read anything in Catholic theology?). Unfortunately, we have many, many clergy — Cardinal Dolan, Cardinal Wuerl, others take a bow — that are devoted to the Cardinal Bernardin “seamless garment” approach, but they are wrong. Refusing to support a Governor Cuomo, for example, due to his absolute love for homosexual sexual rights and abortion-under-all-circumstances approach, is the correct approach, not to give him the thumbs up because he gives out a bunch of money to “the poor.” The Catholic Church must oppose, at each and every opportunity, all — all — civil laws that are proposed that support obvious sin and that deaden the soul. “YFC,” you know that Catholics, like any other people, can be lulled into a sense of acceptance of immoral behavior, once public policy changes. This can be seen in what appears to be happening with homosexual sexual demands.
St Christopher, Try opposing divorce, illegal wars (Iraq), laws that permit sex outside of marriage, a tax code that favors investment over hard work, and an immigration policy that doesn’t welcome the neighbors among us? Each of THESE sins affects far greater numbers of people than anything to do with the gays, yet the gays is all we hear about – oh and the pro-aborts too. If you really want to make your civil government comply with a moral code, you would be just as concerned with THOSE things.
Striking the heart of the family – which is marriage – effects all of those things, YFC. There is a hierarchy and order in life and in society. Strike the foundation and whatever you manage to achieve on top of that will crumble. That is why this same sex agenda is so dangerous. It aims at the heart of the body, the foundation of human relations. Not that harming an arm or a leg isn’t dangerous, but not fatal.
Add all the drama and the ‘gay’ cause is little more than an easy tool for those who desire to overthrow natural law and serve themselves. So much more is at stake than just what one individual wants. You and your ’cause’ are just a means to an end, YFC. And you cannot even see it.
Thanks again, St. Christopher, and you’re welcome for the support. Anytime.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: You are so lost, as are all self-justifying homosexual sexualists. No, nothing you mention, or could mention, serves to justify a man who has consensual homosexual sex, which is always a mortal sin, every time. Sins are sins, and Jesus will assign punishment when He deems it appropriate. Your point that Catholics that oppose homosexual sexual relations should, instead, oppose the tax code, or military involvement overseas, or the immigration policy is really no-point. We do not live in moral anarchy, or self-definition. Homosexual sex is wrong; other wrong things may also be wrong, which has no bearing on homosexual sex. You offer the “Wesley Snipes” argument to why a black man does not have to pay taxes — well, Mr. IRS, there was slavery, then Jim Crow laws, then de facto discrimination; and, I never got my 40 acres and a mule that Mr. Lincoln promised, so I am not paying my taxes. Enjoy your stay in prison, Mr. non-payer. One wonders what Christ’s reaction would have been to the woman caught in adultery, who was also going to all her friends, saying that they had to accept her adultery, and that they should all feel free to try it. Remember, that, for the action at which the adulterous woman was caught, Jesus said, “go and sin no more.” He did not say, “well, the Romans unfairly tax us, and Herod is a bad king, so go ahead, your sin is not so much in comparison. Tell that to Cardinal Bernardin, when you see him.
St. Christopher, you completely miss and mangle the point. I never said I was a non payer, what I said is that to the extent that the tax code is immoral, which I think it could demonstrably be, then you have an obligation, per your own argument, to oppose it. Either you oppose all that is immoral, or you justify it. Most Americans, in fact most American Catholics are just a little tired of the charade that folks pretend to be against sin, but the only sins you all are against, in reality, are sexual sins – mostly homosexuality, and occasionally birth control and abortion. Whenever anyone calls your attention to those other moral issues, you tell Bishops to stay out of politics, as when they try to bring attention to the poor and the immigrant among us. You want Bishops involved in some politics, just not the politics you happen to disagree with. It’s really a very transparent approach to things, and this hypocrisy is one of the reasons that so many have left the Church.
So your position is to cozy up to sin and just go with the flow, YFC? Maybe hawk forbidden fruit in order to turn a buck…. or just to ‘keep it real.’
You say that St. Christopher’s has a,”… very transparent approach to things, and this hypocrisy is one of the reasons that so many have left the Church.” But you seem to take the view that we should hawk sin and, hey, maybe even the benefits of the Precious Blood, too. Taking everything for granted as a ‘can’t help it’ that would leave folks in the pews minus any Faith.
The ‘Church’ you describe without Faith, YFC, would be a lifeless ape, much like the unions that you promote. You would render Holy Mother Church barren and a harlot.
That is why folks on CCD take issue with your perverted postings. You promote a Church without Faith, YFC, a salvation without Love, a fruit without even the hint of service as if Our Lord should grovel at the feet of Satan and beg his forgiveness.
Ann, you do a lot of projection. The things you accuse me of are things you promote.
And what, pray, do you do, YFC? Preach the ‘truth’ that we are hopeless, hard wired sub-animals that cannot even attempt to turn away from sin? That is not what Christ teaches. That is, however, what Satan would have us believe. Great way to keep the masses from even trying to rise above their sorry state.
So keep it real please. Be honest about what you believe, YFC. Otherwise the hypocrisy you call Church is nothing more than a building and a name given over to sin. That’s no projection, just common logic, another gift of God that you would strip from your fellows for the sake of your beloved agenda.
Ann Malley, I have never ever ever said anything remotely close to “that we are hopeless, hard wired sub-animals that cannot even attempt to turn away from sin? That is not what Christ teaches. That is, however, what Satan would have us believe. Great way to keep the masses from even trying to rise above their sorry state.”.
I just don’t understand why you make up things that you think I say or believe. Why do you do that? I don’t get it. Do you feel like you have some right to make things up and put them in my mouth as though I said them myself???
Well, how should one interpret your promotion of same sex activity as inevitable and unavoidable? Why promote elevating such behavior to equate to marriage? Why promote homosexual marriage based on the Holy Family.
Tell me how to interpret what you actually say, YFC, and then perhaps I will not be supposedly making the disconnect between one who says he is Catholic but doggedly promotes that which is not while bagging on Catholics for speaking as Catholics.
Be real, YFC. Be straight with your words and meanings. If you are not – and you aren’t – then how can you blame others for seemingly misinterpreting you? It’s an honest question that begs an honest answer. There is no ‘feeling’ involved.
YFC: You are being so owned by Ann Malley and other loyal and faithful Catholics here on Calcath. Your gay agenda has NO place here on a Catholic website. Your pro-gay posts prove without a shadow of a doubt that you are truly NOT a fellow Catholic. A TRUE CATHOLIC canNOT and will NOT post the anti-Catholic garbage that you spew here on a daily basis!
God Bless your work to save souls, Diane.
No point missed, “Your Fellow Catholic”: Your attempt is to blanket everything with the “Seamless Garment” and it will not work. And, there are “greater sins,” including homosexuality and abortion. Further, what America’s sorry bishops do is to avoid preaching the Gospel and, instead, to act like social workers. They do so because they do not believe in what their own Church teaches. And, many, many of them are, or have been, homosexuals, and see nothing wrong with it (except that they might be sued or lose donations). Your notion of “hypocrisy” is nothing more than a Homofascist attempt to avoid attention to the serious sin of homosexual activity, for which their is no excuse, and no escape. Nothing missed here — you are pretty transparent, and easy to handle.
People seem to miss the idea that garments are meant to safeguard the dignity of man and keep those things which should be shielded, shielded. So whereas tearing the garment to reveal one’s legs or arms is far different than cutting a hole over one’s private parts and then saying that the garment still functions in accordance with its fundamental purpose. It does not.
man for a woman, woman for a man, don’t go against nature it’s not part of the plan, you say your hurting no one, with eye’s so full of pain, you have everything to lose, and nothing to gain, gaypride i hear you cry, i say you live a lie, while your minds at odds with your soul, you’ll never attain your heavenly goal, your pride has overcome your shame, but your really not the one to blame, there’s a darker force at work today, he’s the one that said that you were gay, if your ma & pa thought they were gay, you simply would not exist today, then how could you be so proud, to waste a life that was never allowed.
Ignorance is death, can’t you smell the devil’s breath, a shadow lingers at your door, some rich folk who want some more, they own the paper’s and the telly, their master travel’s on his belly, always lying never true, concealing every sneaky thing they do, gay marriage what a joke, how can a man marry a bloke, their both made the very same, poor mixed up pawns in the devil’s game, two men can never recreate, no woman can ever inseminate, no matter how hard they try, they can never hope to multiply, they tell us this union is just, when it’s nothing but depraved lust, championed by stupid fool’s, with no regard for heaven’s rule’s, what’s that you say i’m homophobic, bombarded with nonsense i`m claustrophobic, we’ve all been taken for a ride, caught in a web that’s worldwide, what better way to bring an end, to life that did to hell send, the one who said he never was, as make believe as santaclause, the guy with the horns does exist and he’s really mad cause he’s never been kissed, he wants to take us all to hell, got most of this world under his spell, so trust in the Lord and try to do right, come out of the darkness and wash your robe’s white, don’t sell your soul to go on living, this joint can’t hold a candle to heaven.
Well done, John! Did you write it?
yes.
We have a Eucharistic Rosary Procession here in Northampton, Ma. every year . The pride parade is held on Mother’s Day, while our Procession is held on Corpus Christi. Many people are taken by surprise by the procession , some cat calls or nervous laughter; for the most part respectful. We need to bring Jesus to every one, especially those in need of His Mercy.
Please print multiple copies of the information below dispelling 10 myths about sodomites and hand them out to these sodomites.
http://www.tinyurl.com/10SodomiteMyths
Christians need to go up to these sodomites and read them the following Words of God:
“Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.” (Jude 1:7)
The last time I went to SF Pride 4 or 5 years ago, there was a small black man walking around with a very big sign which read JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU.
That’s all. Guess what? He told me everyone was very friendly and respectful. All I could say was “God bless you brother.” I was later told that he shows up at all kinds of events with the sign. Maybe these people in San Diego could follow his example.
You forgot to mention the rest of what Jesus Christ said: “Now go and sin no more” (John 8:11).
They always seem to “forget” to mention the rest of what Jesus Christ said! “NOW GO AND SIN NO MORE” Cherry-picking their way through life believing “only” what does not convict their souls. It’s the “hard” truths that we all have to embrace for our eternal salvation.
Thank you to all the faithful, learned, Catholics who faithfully post on this site: Anne T., Catherine, Dana, Juergensen, Abeca, Ann Malley, St. Christopher and others…….You have been given a special gift to teach His Truth……thank you Jesus.
Thank you Sandra..from you that means much! I’m too cheeky by half, but I appreciate your faithful, loving responses to everyone. As I told Ann Malley, I think I must be the ‘bad cop’ to all of your good cops. heh heh (oops…my laughter gives me away and shows my lack of a good Jesuit education. Fortunately we have examples from Fr.Mitch Pacwa, Fr. Rob’t Spitzer and many other Jesuits who show there are still brilliant and faithful . Didn’t want to sound condescending)
You’re not a bad cop, Dana, just the colorful one that makes learning more fun! God bless :)
Thank you, too, Sandra D. It is a gift to be sure!
Thank you SandraD for your support. Keep us in your prayers please and let it be known that you are all in my prayers often!
Same goes for you too SandraD. I am grateful for you and others of good will. Jesus deserves our best and more! Its all for Him and in Him. Jesus is my love, my everything. Its all about Jesus and the intercession of His mum. .
Folks .. think about this. You’re sitting in your local sports bar talking to someone you just met. The talk turns to religion. You say your a Catholic and see an opportunity to do some evangelizing. So… do you start with “Jesus Christ loves you” or focus on their sins which you know nothing about. If you and I are convinced that Christ does love u,s then aren’t we going to be open to listening to Him about sin and grace?
Think about this, C&H…I’m sitting in a Catholic Bible study with women who have been Catholics for years, most all their lives. They believe the muslims worship the same God as we do. They don’t really know anything about the Bible. Some don’t believe in the Immaculate Conception. Most think it is mean to say the Catholic Church is the one true church. Most think we’re just another denomination, like protestants. I could go on, but I feel my mission is to try to defend Church teaching to Catholics. Since ALL of my husband”s friends are atheists, (many very anti-Catholic) you’d think that would be my calling, but I assure you that I don’t have any gifts that way. Having come from a bit of that myself, I can assure you that it is the Lords’ leading that will bring about change. If you charge in trying to evangelize chances are very good you’ll create more dissension. If you feel called to evangelize in a sports bar, do so, but always pray first or it is just your effort and not the leading of the Holy Spirit!
What’s your point C&H you, YFC and the rest of LGBT crowd on this site are quite open about who you are what you promote..When any of you are asked do you believe sodomy, same sex sexual acts etc are sin we always get some kind double speak. Its never no or yes. There is another difference for all the thousands of I have committed, I never once demanded the Church accept them.
C&H makes a good point. I see Dana’s point, but my own experience was as a protestant not being in things that differentiate Catholics from them. But before I was able to even get to those uniquely catholic doctrines, I first had to be evangelized in order to claim my basic Christian faith – the Credal statements, the Scriptures. From there began a deeper quest for why the church was split and how our faith was passed down. Trust me, I had gone to Catholic schools all my life, I knew the catholic dogmas, but in order to get to them I first had to be evangelized in the basics, and had to have some basic beginnings of a spiritual life. I’m not saying that is the only path (not by a long shot), but i will bet that it is more common than not.
It would be great to hear other stories of how people came to claim their faith.
What’s say we skip the sports bar, C&H, and talk about approaching you. You seemingly already know that Our Lord loves you. You profess to be Catholic. You profess to be a practicing Catholic. And yet you continuously assert that if Ms. Right came along, you’d reconsider marriage and having a child with her. WHAT?! Disconnect? But you already know of Our loving God. And yet you still push a seemingly ignorant view of sexual morality with regard to what Our Lord teaches.
So how is the tender approach working? Not at all if you are an example. Sorry for being personal in the above example, but it is by virtue of your own example that the touchy-feely approach you recommend sounds so hollow and ineffective.
You forgot to mention the rest of what Jesus Christ said: “Now go and sin no more” (John 8:11).
NAN, you forget the first part of the story, in which he heals them FIRST, THEN he says go and sin no more. Where does Jesus ever say, sin no more, then I will heal you???
Canisius, I appreciate your post at 12:08 PM on the 14th. Here is the thing: The Church requires that we only proclaim publicly as Catholic that which the Church bindingly holds to be Catholic Church doctrine. So when you ask me what I believe, I am prohibited by the Church herself from saying anything other than what the Catechism teaches about homosexual acts, supplemented with what the catechism also teaches about the primacy of conscience and the teaching [from CCC] that a grave act is only morally sinful only if it is accompanied by factors of culpability. ALL Of that is well within the CCC and well founded Church teaching. I have said that in certain circumstances homosexual sex is in fact mortally sinful. I have also said that in certain instances, homosexual sex is not sinful at all, and one example of the latter would be in the case of a victim of rape. Men on men rape victims are common in prisons, and those rape victims are clearly not culpuble for any sin whatsoever, even though the act is regarded by the Church as disordered.
So is homosexual sex mortally sinful yes or no? Well, it is not a yes or no question, much as we might like it to be, whether for a gay man like me or a straight guy like you. I agree with the Church that it is ALWAYS a grave matter. I hope that helps, and I thank you for the post.
OK YFC I will be more specific do you believe that consensual gay sex is a mortal sin… yes or no.
Our Lord didn’t heal the woman caught in adultery before He instructed her to go and sin no more, YFC. What are you implying? That Our Lord’s healing is somehow lacking? Even at that, the person has to have some desire to be healed or at least have others that desire his/her healing.
Cansisus, the CCC does not allow me to say!!! It clearly says it is disordered, but mortally sinful? It is literally not for me to judge.
So you promote that which is inherently disordered and of grave matter with regard to its offense to God by means of sophistry. You are very clear, YFC.
Suppose I take YFC’s response and take his pet sin of sodomy and replace it with someone else’s pet sin. For example, someone else might have a pet sin of killing people for being homosexual. Do the same things that were mentioned by YFC still apply or do they no longer apply because the pet sin that is being excused is not YFC’s pet sin, it actually someone else’s pet sin that YFC happens to hate? Inquiring minds would like to know…
Sandra D, Thank you for the kind and considerate words about fellow posters who cherish the Catholic Faith. AND…. Thank YOU Sandra D for each and every one of your faithfully supportive comments on CCD and for your zeal. God bless you!
When Jesus says “Now go and sin no more”, He did not “heal” the sinner……He “forgave” the sinner and said “now go and sin no more”.
The sinner has to WANT TO be “healed”…..and through “asking (praying) the Lord for His loving help”, the sinner can and will be healed. For everything is possible for God!
We sinners have “free will” and so even after forgiveness and healing by the Lord…..we may “fall” once again if WE are not diligent in prayer and obedience to Him. It’s the path to holiness….a very narrow path that we must TRUST in HIM and Only in Him to get us to our heavenly place that He has prepared for us.
We won’t be in California, but will be praying in our own time zone the 4 rosaries and Divine Mercy in union with you for the reparation of the sins calling out to God for vengeance. Thank you California Catholic Daily for posting this. I hope others will join for this intention. God Bless all of you and May the reign of Jesus Christ prevail for us and the whole world.
Canisius,
He taught us to let our no’s mean no and our yes’s yes! And He is God!
As you write, NO DOUBLESPEAK!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
juergensen, calling people SODOMITES is just not Christian behavior. Can you imagine Jesus walking down the street with his disciples calling out, “We need to go up to these whores, fags, and prostitutes and read them what the Word of God says about their disgusting behaviors.” Utter preposterous and outrageously un-Christ like. Such VAIN PRIDE AND HYPOCRYSY from heterosexuals. In most homes on any given street, heterosexuals are engaging in addiction to porn, or dealing with some kind of addiction. Should we just have a rosary “army” marching on every street in America shaming individuals for their sins? What is the divorce rate by the way? Most of the Catholics I know are getting loaded on Saturday nights, and then do their obligatory Sunday service with a hangover. The number one sin priests here from heterosexuals is: ADDICTION TO PORN! How is this sin worse than SODOMY? I’ll tell you why! It’s because of the sin of PRIDE. Pride says: “YOUR SIN IS WORSE THAN MINE!” Go see what Jesus says about PRIDE and report back to me. BTW, your sodomite literature is a myth. It’s meant to SHAME people. Shame on you SO-CALLED CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS FOR YOUR UTTER AND BLATANT HYPOCRYSY.
John,
These aren’t homosexuals trying to live chastely. They’re open about their sodomy. Proud, unrepentant sodomites is what they are. Calling them anything else would be a lie and un-Christian. Warning: “Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil” (Isaiah 5:20).
John I agree with Juergensen, they are unrepentant and down right dangerous. We have to understand the difference and not have false compassion for them. Look up Archbishop Fulton Sheen on his topic on False Compassion. We have to discern because they would have you fooled into condoning their “gay” lifestyles. We can not do anything against God.
First seek a personal relationship with Christ, then you will understand why we can not go along with sodomy lifestyles. We just can not. We can not cheapen our gifts from God by selling our selves short and buying into the secular views on “gay” lifestyles. Even from a secular standpoint, the facts also show how dangerous and unhealthy those lifestyles really are. When looking for the truth, we are using God’s gifts to reason in line with our Lord, and if we trust that He is truly our salvation, then we would want nothing more but to please Him, who saves!
we should have a rosary march down every street. that is a great idea. I think we all should go for it.
John,
SODOMITES are those who commit Sodomy.
Why would anyone want us to lie about it? They seem to be proud of sodomy in their parades.
Homosexual Marriage is Sodomy-marriage.
Even the Bible calls those who commit sodomy – Sodomites. 1 Tim 10.
(Also see: Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10 regarding homosexual acts)
Sodomite is a real word meaning what it means. Part of the gay activism is to get rid of those words and desensitize the sins of sodomy.
wow, talk about Love Thy Neighbor gone wrong!
We must never TOLERATE Mortal Sin.
It sends unrepentant people to Hell for eternity.
True love of Neighbor is wanting him or her to get to Heaven for eternity.
Anyone can be a remote participant in the sins of others.
CCC: ” 1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers. “
WHICH “solid” Bible scholors? Catholic ones?
You forgot to mention the rest of what Jesus Christ said: “Now go and sin no more” (John 8:11).
Solid bible scholars are open to the possibility that sodomites and Muslims are the two riders of the Pale Horse of the Apocalypse: Death and Hades (Rev. 6:7-8). Once sodomites gain control of the West and Muslims gain control of the East – both near completion – these two minions of Satan will then turn against each other and conflagrate the earth, bringing the Apocalypse, whereupon Christ “shall cast them into the furnace of fire” where “there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 13:42).
Excellent public display of holy souls not cowering to the ungrateful “disordered” neighbors that are proud of their behavior.
God bless All of us, and may He inspire homosexuals to find couragerc.net and a beautiful way to offer love to God and not offend Him while living a lifestyle that is historically an abomination
“Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18.
“World Health Organization Warns HIV ‘Exploding’ among Gay Men,” Agence France Press, 7/14/2014: ‘Gottfried Hirnschall, who heads WHO’s HIV administration, warns Infection rates are rising again among men who have sex with men.’ ‘While images of skeletal men dying of AIDS in the 1980’s pushed the world to act, a younger generation that has grown up among new treatments that make it possible to live with HIV are less focused on the disease, he suggested. Today this group is 19 times more likely than the general population to be infected by HIV, Hirnschall said.’