The following comes from a March 16 LifeSiteNews article:
As San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone faces a coordinated attack on his efforts to promote Catholic identity in his schools, a Notre Dame professor has penned an op-ed in the New York Times urging him to back off because the Church, he says, is “overdue” for revising its views on sexuality.
University of Notre Dame Philosophy Professor Gary Gutting argues that natural law actually confirms the goodness of homosexuality in his March 12 column, titled “Unraveling the Church Ban on Gay Sex”.
“The church needs to undertake a thorough rethinking of its teachings on sexual ethics, including premarital sex, masturbation and remarriage after divorce,” he said.
Gutting wrote that he understood Archbishop Cordileone is not in a position to deny “what is still an official Church doctrine.”
“But there is nothing that requires him to vigorously enforce a teaching that is so dubious even in terms of the church’s own view on the two sources of truth,” he writes, referring to divine revelation and reason.
Gutting contended that for both heterosexual and homosexual couples alike, “sex is a powerful and unique way of building, celebrating, and replenishing intimacy.”
He dismissed Church teaching that the marital act is meant to be open to life, arguing that sexual acts that block the creation of life could “still play a positive role in a humanly fulfilling life of love between two people of the same sex.”
He also discounted Biblical condemnations of homosexual acts, attributing the conflict between divine revelation and reason to “our failure to understand what either God or reason is saying.”
He claims that most clergy and even some bishops have followed his path of logic in rejecting Church teaching on contraception, which is also supported by a natural law argument.
Title of article should read, ”Professor how pretends to be Catholic says…”
Gary Gutting does not believe in Sacred Scripture regarding homosexuality.
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7.
Nor does he believe in Doctrine of the Faith:
CCC 2357, 2358, 2359 & 2396.
He is a heretic and schismatic.
Here’s one of the better responses to the ‘clobber verses.’
https://www.thegodarticle.com/faith/clobbering-biblical-gay-bashing
So what kind of fruit does sodomy bear ?
This man is an abomination! But we all know that not all sinners choose God and His natural law. There is always dissent and traitors, they disobey God and His church. Well lets tell this man that the natural law is not up for debate! He can argue in the mirror or talk to the wall because we will not entertain his ridiculous debate!
When someone once told Padre Pio that they did not believe in hell, Padre Pio responded with “you will when you get there!”
Nature itself refutes Professor Gutting. The natural consequences of unnatural pseudo-sex include HIV, sepsis, and cancer. In supporting these unnatural acts, the Professor and others like him actually hate those whom they presume to love and share in the guilt for the natural evils that befall them.
Athenagoras of Athens (2nd Century)
Athenagoras of Athens was a philosopher who converted to Christianity in the second century. He shows that the pagans, who were totally immoral, did not even refrain from sins against nature:
“But though such is our character (Oh! why should I speak of things unfit to be uttered?), the things said of us are an example of the proverb, ‘The harlot reproves the chaste.’ For those who have set up a market for fornication and established infamous resorts for the young for every kind of vile pleasure – who do not abstain even from males, males with males committing shocking abominations, outraging all the noblest and comeliest bodies in all sorts of ways, so dishonoring the fair workmanship of God.”
Tertullian (160-225)
Tertullian was a great genius and apologist of the early Church. Unfortunately, after an initial period of fervor, he succumbed to resentment and pride, left the Church and adhered to the Montanist heresy. Because of works written while still in the Church, he is considered an Ecclesiastical Writer and, as such, is commonly quoted by Popes and theologians. His treatise On Modesty is an apology of Christian chastity. He clearly shows the horror the Church has for sins against nature. After condemning adultery, he exclaims:
“But all the other frenzies of passions–impious both toward the bodies and toward the sexes–beyond the laws of nature, we banish not only from the threshold, but from all shelter of the Church, because they are not sins, but monstrosities.”
Eusebius of Caesarea (260-341)
Eusebius Pamphili, Bishop of Cæsarea in Palestine and the “Father of Church History,” writes in his book, Demonstratio Evangelica:
“[God in the Law given to Moses] having forbidden all unlawful marriage, and all unseemly practice, and the union of women with women and men with men.”
Also Saint Jerome (340-420)
Saint Jerome is both Father and Doctor of the Church. He was also a notable exegete and great polemicist. In his book Against Jovinianus, he explains how a sodomite needs repentance and penance to be saved:
“And Sodom and Gomorrah might have appeased it [God’s wrath], had they been willing to repent, and through the aid of fasting gain for themselves tears of repentance.”
“meaning, growth and fulfillment”, spoken like a true hedonist. Making yourself the center of the universe seems to come before all else to these types. Where in this non-Catholic’s view would we find that Christ himself chose to be born into a family with a mother and father? Not Joe and Joe. Not Mary and Mary. Marriage brings into fullness the love and union of Christ and his Church.
This heretic is flying false colors. In spite of his protestations he is not Catholic.
Another mindless academic who invents his own truth….
Yet Catholics continue to support Notre Dame in every way shape and form, especially the athletic programs.
In many ways, this situation mirrors what’s going on in the schools in the Archdiocese of San Francisco. But no one ever does anything about it–just keep funding the monster.
Another loon teaching at Notre Shame. This guy is now claiming that his ideas over ride the teachings of the Bible. Any Catholic who sends their Catholic kids to what used to be Notre Dame, is buying their kid a ticket to Hell!
The leadership of Notre Dame University are just as guilty as Gutting for hiring and retaining him as a professor. They should all be fired and replaced with CATHOLIC administrators.
It will be interesting to see if the Synod gathering this coming time agrees with this delusioned immorally and spiritually ill-fated person. How can he consider himself catholic? In reality his at best is a hypocrite, claiming and pretending to be a catholic, and deceiving naïve students who in general in this modern society, did not get a good catholic catechism foundation. If Notre Shame had any Catholicism left in it, it would fire him for the sake of saving the souls of the students, but then do they really care about the student’s souls? I mean really care?
Notre Dame has a BIG RESPONSIBILITY TO GOD– to FIRE Prof. Gutting! And the Catholic Church has the duty– to EXCOMMUNICATE THIS MAN! Wake up Notre Dame! Wake up, Catholic Church! You have a BIG RESPONSIBILITY, TO ALMIGHTY GOD!! WAKE UP!!
This ‘teacher’ is NOT Catholic, and has no business teaching religion in any ‘Catholic’ institution. But then, Notre Dame has not been ‘Catholic’ for quite some time.
There is really nothing to say about his beliefs. He just wants to believe what he wants against all tradition and truth. The problem is that he is in a teaching position and is misleading his students and the college is misleading by allowing him to teach. To give up something that you enjoy so much and base your life on must be very difficult, especially when you only seek affirmation.
Gary Gutting at Notre Dame cites the Church’s need to undergo “a thorough re-thinking of its teachings” on morality. St Stephen’s “Catholic” Church pastor, Fr. Paul Warren here in SF, announces the need to replace “an out-of-date theology” with a mysterious new revelation and a new doctrine. Card. Reinhard Marx of Berlin discusses a new teaching on morality before and after the October 2014 Synod: “graduality” is “in”. Card. Walter Kasper is seen smiling like a loon closely besides Pope Francis at his address after the March 7th 2015 Ognissanti Church 50 year anniversary of the “New Mass” (actually, it was the Traditional Mass in Italian: they don’t even know this apparently):the pope allows a man (Kasper) who has said that the miracles of Christ in the Gospels are legends. Where does all this war on truth and tradition originate?
During his comments on St. Patrick’s Day, the Supreme Teacher of the Faith (that is Pope Francis, Novus Ordo Ducks) stated about how some Catholics who claim to be “doctors of the law” prevent men and women who would return to the Church:
“And how many times today in Christian communities [they] find closed doors: ‘But you cannot, no, you cannot,’” said the pope, imitating someone who prevents such people from reentering the community. “That which the Holy Spirit does in the hearts of people, Christians with the psychology of doctors of the law, destroy.” (Mar. 17, 2015)
“And how many times today in Christian communities [they] find closed doors: ‘But you cannot, no, you cannot,’” said the pope, imitating someone who prevents such people from reentering the community. “That which the Holy Spirit does in the hearts of people, Christians with the psychology of doctors of the law, destroy.” (Mar. 17, 2015) [ Those who speak of unchanging truths are evil Pharisees today.] What does it all mean?
Card. Mario Ciappi, Vatican theologian to 5 popes, one of the few who had actually seen and read the actual one-page sheet of note paper in Sr Lucia’s handwritten original, commented profoundly: In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.”
Anyone who disagrees with a Pope can point to Sr Lucia’s prophecy and claim that it points to the Pope they disagree with. If I had problems with Pope Benedict, I could have pointed to that very same prophecy. If I have problems with the Pope that succeeds Francis, I will be able to point to that same prophecy. Prophecies work best when the historical events they foretell have already happened. They are of little use in the present tense as a measure of the value of what is going on today.
Take Jesus as a prime example. He had to open the eyes of the disciples, often after his own resurrection, to the meanings of the Old Testament prophets, and how they related to him. The disciples didn’t recognize that the prophecies were being fulfilled in their midst. They needed coaching, if you will.
When Jesus comes again, I’m sure he will be very clear about what prophecies have come true and how. So I’m happy to wait for that moment. I’m not sure I need a Steve Phenix to pretend to know what prophecies mean, even as he uses them to bash the successors of Saint Peter.
Title should state: “HERETICAL Catholic Professor …..”
not “Catholic Professor”.
It would be most helpful if we were all accurate in our reporting, posting, etc.
Doctrine of the Faith: Church definitions.
CCC: “2089 INCREDULITY is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it.
HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.
APOSTACY is the total repudiation of the Christian faith.
SCHSIM is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”
For those who may not know:
The two most important books in the Catholic Faith are:
1) Sacred Scripture which contains the speech of God in entirety (CCC 81);
and
2) “Catechism of the Catholic Church” which contains the ‘Doctrine of the Faith’ in entirety (second edition, 1997, dark green cover in USA).
For quotes from Popes John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and Francis on the Catechism of the Catholic Church – go to:
“What Catholics REALLY Believe SOURCE”
https://whatcatholicsreallybelieve.com/
One last thought: a profoundly accurate measure of the discernment of spirits in the Spiritual Exercises (and the presence of the Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father and Jesus Christ the Son): “God is a God of order, not of confusion (1 Cor 14:33).”
Since this present pontiff took office, the confusion sweeping the Church has been cosmic. Those who can’t see it and who consciously deny it will reap its effects. I pray every day for the enlightenment of the sincerely seeking members of Novus Ordo church—that church apart from a true Church that is now being swept aside.
Well, time for a fly-over from the Anonymous Novus-Ordo Defenders-of-the-Collapsing Status Quo-Ducks. “Quack-quack-schismatic-attack” and rampant confusion incoming!
(We can always blame Ann Malley and the SSPX! Yay! Quack-quack! :) )
So the guy said “Happy” sexual relations are OK.
Did he have any input on the physically harmful / pathological disease spreading nature of Homo-Anal Coprophile Behaviors?
After all – Frisco has been the nexus for the spread of all manner of Death & Disease via its ‘Conga Line of Buggery’…
– And in the Church the story of one Diocese after another going bankrupt to pay for the Homosex Ephebophile Attack on Our Boys seems to go on and on and on…
Sooo… Did this tenured Clown Prince of Academentia deal with any of those realities, or was it just too ‘Happy’ a talk to let the attendant Icky Bits intrude?
This man is wrong, homosexual sex is always wrong, and always an affront to God. Personal happy times and “good feelings” are not worth anything by which to validate the moral accuracy of behavior. Hitler was likely overjoyed at killing Jews, Inca priests were very happy to cut out the beating hearts of sacrifice victims, prostitutes are certainly cheery about getting a large number of “johns” for one night, and some women, such as Gloria Steinem, were happy about having their abortions; perhaps they also all gave some of their assets to “charity” or did other good works after they received an emotional boost after their sinful behavior.
It is time for Gutting, Fr. Warren, Cardinals Dolan, Wuerl, Kasper, Baldisseri, Abp. Cupich, Abp. McElroy and many, many more, to leave the Catholic Church and formally announce membership in the Episcopalian Church. In fact, they are all de facto Protestants anyway, so why not make the break clean?
Traditional Catholics tire of reading the same arguments over, and over. One can see the power of the Holy Ghost in keeping an institutional Church together, even though there are so few believers that are now running the ship. The laity needs to rise up and demand accountability, and the elimination (job-wise) of many of these men from positions within the Church. Then, the world needs to re-learn the true teachings of Christ.
If he is a professor, or a Catholic, I am a monkey’s uncle.
It looks like today anyone can be a professor, but not all can be Catholic. It looks like today anyone can be a therapist or doctor but not all are Catholic either. We have to share this life with bunch of sick people. Lord have mercy! What this professor needs is to be institutionalized!
Professor, whatever you say, it’s a matter of DESIGN, not “preference”. It’s called a reproductive system for a reason. It takes two, a man and woman no matter how you choose to twist your reasoning. It’s an impossible knot to tie. You make a fool of yourself in the attempt.
If ever a one needed dousing at regular intervals with Abp. Cordileone’s SF cathedral water, it’s the professor.
“Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm against the tactics of the devil.” (Ephesians 6:11)