Chicago’s Archbishop Francis Cardinal George refused communion to gay activist Joe Murray, who wore a rainbow sash during George’s appearance at the 25th anniversary of the Archdiocesan Gay and Lesbian Outreach Sunday, June 16.
About 25 LGBTs and allies protested outside of AGLO’s Mass at Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Church, 708 W. Belmont. They could be heard shouting outside during Mass, and cars honking in support were also a frequent sound heard during the service.
The protest was organized by the Rainbow Sash Movement and the Gay Liberation Network. Murray is the founder and executive director of the U.S. Rainbow Sash Movement. While several others took rainbow sashes from Murray ahead of Mass, no one else protested inside.
Murray stood up with his back to Cardinal George during parts of the Mass, and then he went up with the estimated 200 others in attendance to receive communion. George refused him, and Murray walked away with his hands open and empty, showing the congregants that he had been denied.
But in an emotional show of solidarity, Brenna Cronin, who had already received her communion as part of the church choir, went back up and took another communion wafer (called a Host) and brought it to Murray herself.
“One of my brothers, a member of my community, who is a full and equal member of the body of Christ, was denied communion. So I got back in line and I brought him communion, as I would for anyone else,” Cronin told Windy City Times after the Mass. Cronin, who is a lesbian, has been involved with AGLO for two years and is also a cantor.
To read entire story, click here.
Oh, good heavens.
Now every nut case on the planet is turning the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass into a chance to protest — including standing up and turning your back on the celebrant.
I need an aspirin…
Those with and who live homosexual lifestyles and activism do not care if it is Holy Mass or not…they do not care what our Lord says about sodomy…so don’t expect any respect…it foolish to even consider those living in serious sins to behavior holy…they do not know how and do not respect what is holy…to them it is their love of Homosexuality more over God….we should all know this by now..
I am so proud of Cardinal George! To give communion to Murray would hae been scandalous and it is the body of Jesus Christ. Jesus does love and wants Murray to receive him. However, he must repent (like all of us) of his life style. As for Miss Cronin, shame on you for your disrespect of the Cardinal and the Holy Eucharist.
As I have been saying over and over…we need to go back to having only the priest and or deacon giving out Holy Communion. On the tongue.
Amen to that.
Yep, amen brother
mz cronin will pay dearly in the after life for your defiance….if only she was not so blind
What our priests ,does is,people who love God,but cant go to to communion,not being ,married in the catholic church,because of divorce ,come up,with there hands crossed onthere chest ,and receive a blessing. But I think people are to be told.But the sin of pride,will stop many ,I think.
wilhelmina, have you tried money and working your way up the annulment ladder?
I will not judge. However, I will say this, It is not advisable to trifle with anything so profound. It is not up to me. God will judge all of us.Other people can kill your body, but only you can kill your soul.
Throw her off the any church activities she may be involved in and next time she goes up to receive The Body of Christ, she should be denied, since she has shown her stripes.
DITTO!!!!! The Holy Mass is sacred and the Cardinal shouldn’t have given communion to that woman.
I pray,for pope Francis ,he will lead us in the right direction ,we should allread his homilies .They are beautifully ,and straight to the heart ,,he does not judge ,like OUR BLESSED MOTHER said even if your cross is hard
to garry ,do not judge .But there is pleny of that I can see.Pray more from the heart to Mary andJesus,And leave it in their hands,HEAVEN is guiding pope Francis .
JESUS said:
“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with righteous judgment” – John 7:24.
“You have rightly judged.” – Luke 7:43;
“Why do you not judge for yourselves what is right?” – Luke 12:57
We must never TOLERATE Sin.
Admonishing Sinners, Instructing the Uniformed, and
Counseling the Doubtful are 3 of the ‘Spiritual Works of Mercy’.
You do NOT love your Neighbor if you do not help him get to Heaven.
Even worse!!!
When I clicked on the link to read the article, I was sent to some gay web site!!!
Couldn’t you just have posted the entire article here???
I really don’t want that kind of “history on my computer!!! :(
I’m no surprised…the homosexual activists are nasty dirty people….I have seen them vandalized and destroy property of even friends who left the homosexual lifestyle. They have even threaten their safety. It’s really ugly sinful people activist that we are dealing with and they will get nastier that is why many have fallen to their violent tactics so they often back down…the thing is to never back down and stand firmly and trusting God in all things.
Misery loves company.
Replace your hard drive.
To read the entire story, click there. Really. It’ll leave you shaking your head. And AGLO is Archdiocesan Gay and Lesbian Outreach.
Yes, Anonymous, I read the article. Here is the heart of the matter:(Joe Murray speaking): “”It was the individuals who witnessed the Cardinal not giving me communion that were really stunned,” Murray said. “They reached and grabbed me as I returned to my pew after being judged by the Cardinal to be a sinner not worthy of any compassion, and told me of their support. I could hear the horns blowing supporting the outside demonstration, could hear the chanting of my brothers and sisters in the GLN outside of the church, and that also gave me courage. But my guardian angels where the women who seemed to get what I was doing; the men felt threatened and showed that … . I think most people were stunned that [they] witnessed this happen—not by my presence, but by the AGLO reaction to that presence.”
Anonymous, if you are in sympathy with Murray, you share the childish narcissism so evident in his comments. One goes to communion in good faith, and if the Cardinal determined Murray was not so acting, then that is the shepherd’s duty as an act of love to withhold communion. If Murray doesn’t get it, and he clearly is speaking as if he is clueless, then that is Murray’s problem, not the Cardinal’s.
Why would I be in sympathy with Murray?
You weren’t being judged as a person. The cardinal never said anything like that, but denied you Communion because you deny living in SIN and refuse to aclnowledge that. Jesus loves you but we all must repent of our sin before coming to the table to recieve Him. Sin no more. Period.
Who are you talking to?
These Sodomites get it alright, however, they want all the support they can get in order to feel justified of their filthy abomination of a life style. Sins against nature will be severely punished in Hell, even more so than murder its self. And of course what better place to obtain support but in a Mass crowded with these reprobates. Of course they will support each other. They are all on the road to perdition, lest they change before dying, which is not very probable.
Murray sounds like a functional idiot. Sodomites destroy their minds, and Murray demonstrates this clearly.
Yes it did. It left me shaking my head how clueless Dignity and the Rainbow Sash movement is when they don’t even recognize people on their own side.
Isn’t there a Westboro Baptist group they can terrorize?
Now he needs to refuse it to Cronin.
No, I should not tell Archbishop George what to do. Only he knows what to do in this case. All I can really say is good for him. St. Paul did warn that those who take the Blessed Sacrament unworthily, can incur not only spiritual death but physical death, so they are taking it at their own peril.
“But in an emotional show of solidarity, Brenna Cronin, who had already received her communion as part of the church choir, went back up and took another communion wafer (called a Host) and brought it to Murray herself.”
Another reason to end the terrible and novel practice of Holy Communion in the hand. Why does the Archdiocese have a ministry that celebrates a lifestyle that is unnatural and abominable to God? Do they have a fornication and adultery outreach as well?
I was thinking the same thing myself, concerning your comment on Communion in the hand. Some Catholic Churches make sure the Sacred Host is swallowed.
How?
How do they make sure the Sacred Host is swallowed?
I all too well remember those homosexual activists, years ago at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York, who took Communion on the tongue, chewed it, and then spit it onto the floor!!!
If people are going to choose evil behaviors and desecrate the Blessed Sacrament, there is no way to stop them.
The sin is on their soul, not on the Cardinal’s soul.
Matthew, at the Extraordinary Masses people only receive on the tongue, and believe me if someone were to take it out of his/her mouth, the priests would insist he swallow it, and ushers would try to see that he did so too. As far as what happened in St. Patrick’s, we had 9/11 there right after that. Many people, including priests, thought that was a warning to us that God had lifted his protection from a decadent city. Who knows?
Afterwards one of the leaders of the St. Patrick’s sacrilege came back to the Church sacramentally before he died of AIDS.
And some of the same things will happen again, Dotty Day, but why do we all have to go through mess just because some people will not admit that anal sex, etc. is just plain WRONG. It tears the rectum, contributes to innumerable diseases, and God will never be mocked. NEVER. My God wake up people before you destroy not only yourselves but this country.
Dotty,
If that person came back sincerely before that person died of AIDS, praise God and His Mother for that!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
But we can minimize damage by limiting options – communion on the tongue. Also altar servers should have caught Brenin walking away and stopped her. Oh but there was probably no altar server standing by with a paten ….
That’s true. However certain practices make it easier for the sacred to be exploited. Why be dumb about it? And of course, communion in the hand in and of itself is a desecration.
Rambler, evidently it was because of sacrileges such as this that Communion on the tongue was brought into the Church in the first place.
REGARDING COMMUNION IN THE HAND. I ATTEND A CATHOLIC CHURCH IN ATWATER VILLAGE CALIF WHERE THE PASTOR AS OF RECENTLY HAS STOPPED THAT PRACTICE WE NOW RECEIVE ON OUR KNEES, ON THE TONGUE AND USING THE OLD COMMUNION RAILS AS IT SHOULD BE.
God Bless that Priest for his courage and forcing recipients to Honor Our Lord in the most Sacred Sacrament of the Church. God Bless America, if we haven’t blown it totally already.
Cool Luz….you should put your church in the section for churches to visit…
Amen to that. Wish there would be a blanket global return to the traditional way.
It is an “outreach” that offers to minister to their psychological disorder and set them *straight*. Hence, the protest. I’m proud that we have ministries which recognize that every person is a Child of the Most High. It is not a ministry that affirms their sin.
but some of them are misusing it and bringing condemnation on themselves.
False doctrine, Anonymous: Jesus tells us that some people are children of the devil. Why do you incessantly spout this garbage? I even told you months ago or a year maybe that your false doctrine that everyone is a child of God is a lie and opposes Jesus. You fail stupidly and foolishly to research challenges to your errors … but homosexuality will dull the mind down severely … you never have voiced any intention to turn from your evil, and thus your darkness remains.
Wow, an American bishop standing up against the vile filthy sodomites!
We are grateful and now we should support the ones that do….RIGHT?
Finally… an Archbishop with backbone
Too bad he’s waiting so long to show his backbone. Why has this Cardinal allowed AGLO to function in the Chicago Arch Diocese at all? Especially because there is already an Catholic apostolate that helps people with same sex attraction. It’s called Courage and it’s adheres to Catholic teaching 100%.
Why? Perhaps as a teaching moment, which is exactly what he did.
What is wrong with denying Christ to those who purposefully deny Christ in Christ’s own house?
As for being bullied, the only bullying I can see here is from those wearing rainbow sashes. They are great at honking, shouting (with bullhorns), disrupting (standing in Mass and turning their backs to the celebrant), in an attempt to bully others into accepting their warped theology, but they refuse to ‘listen’ to Christ. They don’t want to change their behavior (no one ever died from lack of sex), they want Christ to change His view of them.
I think it’s way beyond time to STOP these infernal “outreaches” to gay & lesbian groups, they actually accomplish very little. And that’s because the OBJECTS of these “outreaches” have figuratively NO interest in resisting their common S.S.A. attraction; au contraire, I believe they REVEL in their S.S.A. affliction. Btw, what is a Cardinal DOING showing up at such a scandalous soiree? Hasn’t the good Cdl. George anything better to do than lending his ecclesiastical presence to such a ‘motley crue’ of depraved cretins? Very depressing. Well, at least he refused Communion to a practicing sodomite; it could’ve ended much worse. Let’s all hope and pray that the U.S. Supreme Court hands down decisions (that are just about to happen any day re this whole sordid “gay” marriage contretemps) that will BOLSTER traditional hetero-sexual marriage AND preserve DOMA. We desperately need a Catholic / Evangelical re-awakening on this vital issue, and keep it beyond the reach of the whole gayfascist cabal. GOD BLESS ALL, MARKRITE
While I can see your point of some of these people refusing Christ, the Church must reach out for those souls that it just might save.
The quite ones that might hear his voice.
Meanwhile, I can say that most of them have already rejected Christ and are fighting his church.
What the Church must do is speak with a clear voice and without confusion. To do that Bishops need to start with their own houses. They have too many sons who have been compromised by the evil one and now work for the Evil one from within the Church.
A return to orthodoxy and even a return to the old Roman rite might be the only way to save souls in the west.
I concu on Orthodoxy possibly being the only way to save souls at this point. It is a key problem in the west that many Bishops either approve homosexual activity or are homosexual themselves. Thru won’t clean house.
Markrite: I could not have stated it any better! Imagine the brazen arrogance of this rainbow pervert to turn his back to the cardinal! A clear signal of a depraved mind. These outreach programs are a bad joke. The latest in liberal muddle-headed thinking. I hope Cdl. George learned a lesson. It is time to discontinue this irreverent practice of handing out communion wafers like they were cookies.
Thank you markrite for being right on the mark!
A Rainbow Sash does not signify that the person wearing it is a practicing gay or lesbian. It indicates that the person disagrees with the church’s position that those who are cannot receive communion.
Well, then that person is wrong, and should not be wearing it since what he/she is saying is that he/she does not believe in Church teaching. To help a sinner commit serious sin or encourage them to do is a serious sin in and of itself, so why even take Communion if you do not believe in the Church’s teaching. It only brings condemnation, as St. Paul puts it, on oneself. It is a sacrilege.
Oh, brother! And the KKK only wore white sheets because they were advertising bed linen, right?!
A person who is a practicing gay or lesbian can (illicitly) receive communion. No one but God would know the difference. The sash is a protest to call attention to what they consider to be an injustice. They do this once a year to make their point. A person who is sympathetic to the cause can wear the sash, too. Sometimes, priests and nuns (celibates) have worn the sash and been denied communion. They are denied communion because they are not in communion with the Church. These same people next week will come to Mass and receive communion.
Hey Dana excellent point….the KKK good one!
“Not only those who do these things, but those who support them will PERISH! St. Paul (Capitalization was mine for emphasis).
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
I fail to see the difference.
People wearing the rainbow sash are sodomites, whether in practice or in support. Noe, you really cannot fool the faithful, but only yourself.
Markrite, you’re right but I still see Cd. George as a strong Catholic voice. I suppose the bishops have determined that by keeping church doors open to homosexuals they may win a few souls as well as perhaps softening the seared and reprobate hearts that are so undermining our culture? Cd.dolan seems to be carrying out the same policy in NYC. I don’t pretend to understand any of it other than I must fight deep contempt and disgust for these shameless and outrageous activists and pray for them. We’re called to love our enemies and if anyone qualifies as an enemy of the Church it is they. I’ve written many harsh things about homosexuals and I’m so angry with the un-supreme court right now for declaring DOMA unconstitutional but I keep being called to forgiveness and love. Too often I feel like I’m trying to love orcs and goblins but that simply isn’t true. These are lost souls we are called to bring back to the fold. Johns statement shows however that the bishops are not really serious as AGLO’s mission statement is deliberately weak and confusing. Everything is so strange anymore that its getting more and more challenging to hate the sin but love the sinner!
That is why the homosexual activists are winning…..because Christians have misplaced or false compassion, they stand their ground righteously in God…real love does not condone nor approve of love that impose immoral behavior and this country was based on Christian values and to impose such laws on those with moral values is not common good sense. It is a war on Christianity or anyone who hold values.
This is not about homosexuality it is about imposing laws on the people that make others accept immoral sexual lifestyles and we all know that God ordained family units and they can not survive this way because that is not how our Lord has designed it through this natural law in which He has placed upon all mankind.
Many Christians misuse the true meaning of love, they have lost backbone and have been desensitized as well to feel guilt for what was once what God held to be decent and good in Him, now they don’t know how to react and many times have allowed this to happen to our country because matters of different opinions and views….we are faced with matters of indifference and have lost the true meaning of being like minded in Christ.
If we were like minded in Christ, the secular world would hate us and what we hold sacred. Life is sacred because the natural law is sacred but now it is sexually dirtied up with sick wicked views and ideals. God have mercy.
Orc and g0blins? Lost souls? SIGH!
Well, PA, Abeca explained it so clearly that you are tongue tied. You know you’re outted already as a deceiver … get used to everyone knowing it, and get used to having run out of spiritual ammunition with which to wage a war of seduction. You’re done, dude.
Skai thank you….at least I attract his attention……I’m praying something will stick….God bless you Skai always…You are a good Catholic Christian…..even if some don’t get your comments….but you have your own style just like the saints and the men of the bible….
We are all called to be saints….a saint would never be caught doing or saying or advocating homosexual rights or lifestyles. Their fear in the Lord only makes them understand why it’s wrong to do so and how much it offends our Lord….our concern should be about saving souls and our obtaining graces not leading people away from them.
markite,
The so called Supreme Court handed down their “decisions” and morality was once again trashed. God help those so called judges when they stand before the REAL JUDGE!
If you never expect anything good from the SOTUS you won’t be so disappointed!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Possibly the first requirement of joining an outreach group should be an exorcism?
The gays need to reach out to the Church in the sacrament of Penance, then abandon their lifestyle in favor of a Christ centered, humble life. As it is they remind me of a bunch of honking geese. If you’ve been around geese you’ll remember them as loud, obnoxious and mean.
I know what you mean, Ted. I was holding one of my grandchildren at a petting zoo when a goose came up to me. I gently pushed him away with my feet, and then the whole flock started to attack. I got out of there fast.
Honking geese are not mean when they see dudes with camo wielding shotguns and dogs ready to retrieve. In fact, the geese will get outta Dodge … uh, while dodging all the little pellets. Spiritual warfare is similar … the demons will flee when arsenals of Jesus are invoked.
Skai, you and your dogs should have been there to protect me. Where were you? Ha! Ha! If I had not had my grandchild in my arms and had had my walking crudgel with me, they would have been goners. Like Friar Tuck I would have massacred them.
The whole rainbow sash nonsense is utterly tacky and sooooo corny. We did things like that when we were preteens with secret handshakes, becoming blood brothers and other extraneous silliness that is part of growing up. Once people become adults, one hopes they take on adult responsibilities and obligations in regards to serving God and humanity. Maybe the homosexualist movement isn’t so much about one’s sexual preference but more about being Peter Pan’s crew of little boys who never want to grow up. Sad, really. What is really sad is they are intruding on people’s time of worship and adoration and this is utterly unacceptable. Cardinal George is a good example of mature Christianity and a good understanding of what Jesus expects men to be and do. Men should be men and act like men. Jesus was the perfect man. He would never have tolerated rainbow sashes and disruption of the Mass.
What would you expect, Dana, from grown men who call themselves “gay”?
I know. You’d think they would be so embarrassed ! When I was a girl, men took pride in being strong and manly. Now they are condemned for it. It’s also a real turnoff to think a man would prefer another man to a woman. I’ve never been able to grasp that repellent thought. God made us beautiful with all sorts of lures and attractions and these ‘males’ prefer someone with hairy armpits and knobby knees. Good grief, the horror!
Dana,
Don’t forget the females who prefer females who don’t have the plumbing over males who do. I tried to think of a delicate way to put that and plumbing seemed appropo.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
We aren’t, Kenneth. There are some lesbian politicians and judges going around to tell young women that they should put their careers above family and their husbands, even to the point of killing their own children in abortion. They are the ones behind radical feminism. You know, “We are women, hear me roar.” Well, some of the them are getting so old, they are just about roared out, and the only way they can reproduce is artifically, and it is causing all kinds of problems for the children when separate. One woman lost her child from her marriage to the child’s father when they divorced and she was stupid enough to “marry” a woman. She finally had to flee the country with the help of guess what? us awful heterosexuals.
Actually, the the judge gave the ex-lesbian lover visitation rights to the child, and the mother said the woman was molesting the little girl, but the court sided with the non related woman. That is why the mother fled to another country. Some of the court decisions have really gotten very evil in some states, but of course the mother was terribly wrong in the first place to attempt a marriage to such a person.
I did not make my first post clear. The mother had rights to the child when she and her husband divorced, but lost them when she refused to allow her ex female lover (whom she had “married” after her divorce from her husband) have visitation rights since she said the woman was molesting the child. Good grief! this all so insane; just explaining it is near impossible.
Mr. Fisher, maybe they love the person for what is in their heart and not their “plumbing.”
PA, the sodomic definition of “love” is an affront to Jesus, who is Love. You people simply revile our Lord by likening your depraved perversion to love, ie to the Lord.
They are not embarrassed because this country has helped them get out of the closet negatively that has DE-sensitized their choices to push their lifestyles. While we can not understand their disorder, we do have sufficient facts, although complex in nature, in some cases as how some may have been scandalized as a child to that confusion. That is why it is dangerous to bring children into those types of immoral lifestyles.
As much as we can’t understand, there is something that we do understand and we know that there are sexual sins that can be addictive to some. Like someone having sex with an animal or having orgies with several people…they do get a kick out of it….those lustful sins are immoral sins, so of course we can understand as well that same sex attraction is also a deviant within those sort of sexual sins. Drugs etc, abortion many lead to more sinful choices.
No matter what the gay activist may have many believe, deep down they know that their sexual choice to same sex is not natural… as much as they are trying and succeeding to normalize it today…..they are already living a lie and no matter what we say or do…it will take a miracle, prayers and more, to get them to turn away from those temptations that are deeply rooted from within them. This has gone too far….something major has to happen now just like Sodom and Gomorrah or like Noah’s time to cleanse this world…..Jesus is the only answer and whatever our Lord decides is best but in the mean time we have a moral duty to help stop or slow down this evil gay mafia, those that have the power too….for us who have no power over those things….lets not give up but continue begging our Lord for His mercy and for help in these times. To pray for our brothers and sisters who are deeply lost in these sort of sins….God have mercy and compassion….even pity on mankind for it turning away from God.
Their minds and consciences are dulled, Dana. They are like sociopaths.
One of the first things the liberals did was to eliminate shame.
WHO GAVE THIS WRITER A FORUM? I have friends who have same sex attractions and are active members in the church. They don’t act out like the few this writer focused on. Nor do they come in make up or tranny garb to Mass. The people emphasized in this article seem like the squeaky wheels with an agenda to draw attention to themselves, and calling those who defend the sacredness of the Mass homophobes or bigots. In fact the writer also called the Bishop a bigot– or else needs improved writing skills. And what is with the writer calling the BODY OF CHRIST, a “wafer (called a host)?”
The mistake is not in the outreach, but in focusing on the few who get off on flamboyance, and in tolerating sacrilege because one is LGBT. Given the political climate and flamboyance of some who take away from the civility required for the sacredness of the Mass, why not just blend all Catholics into regular Masses- regardless of their sexuality? It is not worth the sacrilege that took place by the cantor (acting as “priest” in the article) defying the Bishop under the guise of compassion, nor the poor skills of a writer who misrepresents the Catholic Church. The REAL compassion for the LGBT comes from this Bishop who celebrated the Mass for “these…good people.” Some understand it, this writer doesn’t– nor the few chosen as stars. Where was there even a mention Jesus Christ, the REAL star of the show? Or quotes from the others who knew that?
Those who have same-sex attraction merely suffer from temptation regarding sexual desire for those of the same sex.
If they do not succumb to temptation they are celibate.
Celibate SSA persons can be holy, and certainly may receive Holy Communion.
Those homosexuals who indulge in sexual activities may NOT receive Holy Communion, until they repent and promise not to commit the same sins again.
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. ”
See PETE’s posts of today below.
What actions if any have been taken by the Cardinal against this Lesbian Cantor sacrilegious idiot? Ten to one she is still a Lector, why?
That my friends is the real crux of the matter!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
I would not take Communion from her. No wonder some people at different churches stand in the priest’s or deacon’s line and will only take from them.
Wake up Bea…most of the gay activist are like that…either in small ways like the ones who advocate it here or in big ways like the ones who have organizations that help their cause….wake up….stop living the lie….we have a regular here who says he was a CCD teacher and comes on here who advocates gay lifestyles…that person is just as dangerous to the faith and so are those who call themselves fellow Catholics too….they act like they know the faith but applaud to uphold gay marriage and with these actions they defy our Lord and His natural law. They are not only embracing those sins but they are also guiding others into them….it is a serious sin to lead others into sin…..a good person who seeks to be holy even if he struggles with same sex attraction will not help other homosexuals embrace their right to their gayness! NEVER!
“Same sex attraction” is a modern construct. Jesus teaches us to turn away from sin, and this includes any “same sex attraction”. Bea, if your friends are not rejecting their so called “same sex attraction”, then they are defying the Lord, and thus committing sacrilege and not truly helping their parishes … bearing false witness, hypocrisy, you name it. St Paul says that some Christians “were” (past tense) homosexual, Bea. These people rejected “same sex attraction” in order to follow Christ. “Pick up your cross and follow Jesus”: ever hear this, Bea?
Skai you are right, that also falls under hypocrisy. Excellent comments Skai…God bless you!
Code of Canon Law (Vatican web site)
” Can. 915 Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty
and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion. ”
” Can. 1399 In addition to the cases established here or in other laws, the external violation of a divine or canonical law can be punished by a just penalty only when the special gravity of the violation demands punishment and there is an urgent need to prevent or repair scandals. “
“Apostolic Constitution SACRAE DISCIPLINAE LEGES of the SUPREME PONTIFF POPE JOHN PAUL II for the PROMULGATION of the NEW CODE of CANON LAW” (1983) – (on the Vatican web site)
Includes: ” In actual fact the Code of Canon Law is extremely necessary for the Church. Since, indeed, it is organized as a social and visible structure, it must also have norms: in order that its hierarchical and organic structure be visible; in order that the exercise of the functions divinely entrusted to her, especially that of sacred power and of the administration of the sacraments, may be adequately organized; in order that the mutual relations of the faithful may be regulated according to justice based upon charity, with the rights of individuals guaranteed and well defined; in order, finally, that common initiatives, undertaken for a Christian life ever more perfect may be sustained, strengthened and fostered by canonical norms. ”
and
” Finally, the canonical laws by their very nature MUST be observed. “
” LETTER to the BISHOPS of the CATHOLIC CHURCH on the PASTORAL CARE of HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS ” (Vatican web site)
Includes: ” 15. We encourage the Bishops, then, to provide pastoral care in full accord with the teaching of the Church for homosexual persons of their dioceses.
No authentic pastoral programme will include organizations in which homosexual persons associate with each other without clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.
A truly pastoral approach will appreciate the need for homosexual persons to avoid the near occasions of sin. ”
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Teaching of the Church on homosexuality can be found in the:
“Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” # 2357, 2358, 2359 and 2396;
Holy Scripture – Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:10.
“Homosexual activity”, it should be noted, includes “looking at a” (same sex attraction person). A sin can be committed by an act of the mind or will even though not acted out physically. This is where “same sex attraction” as a concept fails. It simply has no basis in truth as some sort of permanent condition.
If Cardinal George was celebrating the Mass ad orientem Joe Murray’s protest would have appeared even more dramatic – akin to those who walked from Jesus after the bread of life discourse. What nonsense to then approach for communion.
And we see where feminism in the Church has gotten us. Hopefully after sweeping out all the rotten red hats, Francis next step will be to bring the hammer on the US Church.
When the cardinal continues to acknowledge by a false identification a group by sexual attraction, such as gays and lesbians (AGLO=Archdiocesan Gay and Lesbian Outreach), he sets yourself up for this type of rebellion. They need to be called men and women with same sex attraction who have a tendency to a great moral evil, and need to be treated as someone who has either a fearful spirit which is weak toward a particular sin or a sick spirit which embraces the sin, to paraphrase St. Augustine. The goal of any ssa outreach has to be conversion from a tendency to sin toward embracing freedom to reject it in Jesus.
There is a very good article on the COURAGE website called “Have I Been ASPHALTED?”
Father Richard I agree with you…you are right! You speak from true wisdom and knowledge in Christ and you also speak from a heart that fears the Lord….God bless you!
Yes, Father Perozich, the name SSA Outreach is far more accurate and grown up than that idiotic word “gay”. It makes me think of children frolicking through a field of flowers, which these people are not. You know: “The child born on the Sabbath Day is bonny and blithe and gay.” We need to take back that word and give it back its once innocent meaning if that is even possible any more. I pity people with that first and last name. It once was a good name. We need to take back the rainbow, too, to mean what God meant it to mean. It is terrible what they have done to it. I won’t even buy anything with a rainbow on it any more I have been so disgusted by its misuse. I buy multi colored items to avoid it, which still have the beautiful colors.
Correction: the poem was “bonny and blithe and good and gay”. My how times changed.
Good grief, Anne T, do you really dislike gay people that much? Gay is still a good word, it refers to many good people, human beings. The rainbow is still beautiful too. I think of how people come in many beautiful colors, just like the rainbow. Try not to be too disgusted here. Do you remember the song, “Everything is Beautiful” by Ray Stevens? If you never heard of it look it up. God bless you.
Anne T, look up “Reach Out and Touch” by Diana Ross too if you can. “Reach out and touch, somebody’s hand, make this world a better place if you can.” I spent so many hours listening to songs like that, the music and the message helped to heal the loneliness that I felt sometimes. Sometimes today I hear rap music and it makes me sad for the young people that are attracted by the language and violence that is in some of those songs. Showing my age here I suppose.
PA glad you feel that way about that sort of music….it sure doesn’t lead our youth to virtue that is for sure neither does disobedience to the natural law and all that is good. It is disobedience that has helped make those awful rap songs more popular. even good kids fall pray to that taste…but they are still young and hopefully with maturity and their good will to embrace God’s graces they will shun worldly ways.
They are HOMOSEXUALS, Mark. Not ‘gay.’
Great comments Anne. It’s sad how those with tendencies toward this great MORAL EVIL are hell bent on taking all that is beautiful from our world and claiming it; like the rainbow and the color lavender too!
Only ‘the destroyer’, who hates beauty, could be behind this agenda.
I wear purple a lot and just ignor what other people might think, because almost every woman I know wears it sometimes, but I would not buy a rainbow flag.
Oh yes, how dare some people that others consider ugly and inferior take all that is beautiful from “our” world and claim it. When you say “our world”, Teresa, do you exclude those people that you feel are not beautiful? OK, I get the message, some people dislike the song I mentioned because the message of love and acceptance makes them angry because they disagree with it.
PA, “Everything is Beautiful by Ray Stevens”?: Finally, you post the source of your religion!
Come, on Skai, if you mentioned a song that you liked do you think any of the other posters here would say it was a source of your religion?
You say that you were close to the singer Sebastian Temple.
I also met Sebastian Temple and actually remember when he attended daily Mass, which I normally went to, at our local Newman Center. I think he gave a seminar on meditation at our college. I wasn’t all that into meditation but I appreciated Temple’s musical talents.
Oh, please! Everything is NOT beautiful. Sin of every kind is NOT beautiful. Abortion is NOT beautiful. Calling men who misuse their body parts, or desire to do so, “gay” is NOT beautiful Hopefully that is NOT what Ray Charles meant.
Anne T yup totally agree!
Mark from PA, you should not identify yourself or others by your temptations. You will do much better if you identify yourself by your particular religious Faith.
Having same-sex attraction is merely a temptation. There are other kinds of sex addiction.
We all have some kinds of serious temptations that are difficult for individuals, that we all must overcome.
For example – gluttony temptations are over-eating, or licit and illicit drug addictions, etc.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
ALL single persons are called to a life without sex – not merely gays.
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. “
Maddie, I don’t remember discussing any temptations here. I will admit that chocolate is a temptation for me. Also, I don’t label myself as having same-sex attractions. I think this is a weird term plus this particular expression is not used where I live. Until I saw it on the internet I never heard of this expression. Also I am not openly gay, I identify as a Catholic and pretty much everyone I know knows that I am a Catholic. I have actually had people that I didn’t really know say, “I know you, you go to our church.”
Mark PA, all I said is that it is a silly word for grown men, and it is. It sounds too immature.
If you want to take back the rainbow, you have to buy the rainbow things not avoid them. By avoiding them, you are acknowledging that it is symbolic of homosexual rights. Rainbows are symbolic of many things in different cultures, but for Christians they are a sign from God that he will never again destroy the earth by flood.
Taken From FACT – Family Action Council of Tennessee
Academic Bullying
Posted on: 06-21-2013 by: David Fowler
“The entire nation learned this week that many Tennesseans don’t fully appreciate how liberal some of the departments in our state’s public colleges are. What recently took place at Columbia State Community College in the middle of a more rural, conservative area of our state is proof we need to wake up and demand our legislators right the ship. Read more. . . .
The week began with the revelation that a major component of the prestigious social work program at New York’s Columbia University is being run by a number of folks from the far left who are convicted felons. We’re not talking about professors who were arrested for overzealous protesting in their youth. We’re talking about convictions for murder, attempted murder, robbery, and assault.
It is easy for those of us in a state as “red” as Tennessee to think, “Thank you, Lord, we don’t live in a state like that!” And we don’t. But a letter released to the press this week by Alliance Defending Freedom demonstrated that liberal indoctrination and “academic bullying” does take place in at least some of Tennessee’s public colleges.
The letter states that the lead professor of psychology at Columbia State Community College, in Columbia, Tennessee, made her students wear around campus a rainbow colored ribbon indicative of support for the homosexual political agenda as part of a class assignment. It’s clearly government compelled “speech.” But that’s not the worst of it.
The professor also instructed the students to tell others, if asked what the ribbon meant, that they were showing their support for the homosexual community and homosexual rights. That’s the kind of compelled speech for which the word speech doesn’t need to be in quotation marks.”
Anony the rainbow in the sky is the symbol from the bible but the flag is their symbol…so nah I don’t want it….
We have to be street smart too you know….
HERE IS ARBP GEORGE’S MISSION STATEMENT FOR AGLO—-“We, the members of the Archdiocesan Gay and Lesbian Outreach, as people of God, create a sense of community for those who wish to reconcile their sexual orientation with their faith; provide an accepting and affirming atmosphere in which to worship in the Catholic tradition; provide opportunities for integration of personal experience through spiritual growth; share our distinctive gifts with each other and the Church at large, and witness our Catholic faith to the gay and lesbian community.”
Notice that Abp George fails to mention the sin of homosex, thus,giving the impression that the church welcomes gay acts as sinless. it is no wonder that SASH activists are confused. Abp George must make the sin of homosex clear. it is his fault, not SASH’s.
Hello!
“…for those who wish to reconcile their sexual orientation with their faith…”
Don’t you know what this means?
It means chastity!
You’ve got to learn how to reach Church documents.
This reminds me of Bishops who reach out to the divorced and remarried — the mission statement is not going to slam them with their sins (which they already know about), but rather try to help them live according to Church teaching.
This also reminds me of Bishops who reach out to young people — they are not going to slam teens and young adults about masturbation and pre-marital sex being mortal sins, because this is already known. Instead, they will reach out to them, talk about chastity, and try to get people to happily embrace Church teaching.
While people of any age are in the STATE of MORTAL sin they may NEVER receive Holy Communion. Receiving Holy Communion while in the state of mortal sin is a SACRILEGE.
Mortal sins include but are not limited to: Homo-sexual acts, viewing pornography, masturbation, fornication (pre-marital sex), adultery; divorce with re-marriage (except for those living in complete continence – CCC 1650).
All Catholics in the State of Mortal sin are expected to attend Mass each Sunday and Holy Day of obligation – but may NOT receive Holy Communion.
CCC: ” 1457 According to the Church’s command, “after having attained the age of discretion, each of the faithful is bound by an obligation faithfully to confess serious sins at least once a year.”
Anyone who is aware of having committed a mortal sin must not receive Holy Communion, even if he experiences deep contrition, without having first received sacramental absolution, unless he has a grave reason for receiving Communion and there is no possibility of going to confession. Children must go to the sacrament of Penance before receiving Holy Communion for the first time. ”
CCC: ” 1385 To respond to this invitation we must prepare ourselves for so great and so holy a moment.
St. Paul urges us to examine our conscience: “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.”
Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion. “
Amen Matthew…it does mean chastity and chastity also means leaving the ideals of the gay rights crap!
Yup…that my friend is it in a nutshell…this is another example of “the smoke of satan entering the church”…we have modernist catholic bishops and clerics who are not only modernist’s, but heretic as well…they endorse this putrescent behavior, through their lack of condemnation…they will answer for this when they stand before our Lord…most assuredly…their silence, is a sin of omission…
Cardinals, Bishops, and Priests should start quoting the
“Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” for the true teachings of the Church.
The CCC should be quoted in entirety pertaining to all paragraphs on any given particular subject matter.
Anything less, may be incomplete or confusing.
There would be NO DEBATE if people knew the Doctrine of their Faith as stated in the CCC.
“ The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I approved … and the publication of which I today order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church’s faith and of catholic doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition and the Church’s Magisterium. I declare it to be a sure norm for teaching the faith and thus a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion. “ – Pope John Paul II. (CCC page 5)
” create a sense of community”: He does not say “create a community”, but create a “sense”. In other words, one can interpret his words to mean that he is promoting delusion, fantasy, illusion, and various false things. If there were any actual real community, then there would be no need to create a sense of it. Same Sex Attraction people are not any kind of actual real community, but a delusional fantasy.
For a homosexual to want his lifestyle to be accepted by the Church seems hypocritical on their part. If they believe that the Church is wrong, hence our Lord and Savior is wrong, why bother? The Church tells us that ALL sins should be repented, and sin is sin, so what the homosexuals are really saying is there is no sin.
That is true Candace…they are persecuting Christians…if this is a free country, which we all know it is no longer not unless you are a liberal, then they need to leave the notion to force the people with faith based values in to acceptance of their lifestyles.
They are obviously not smart people, they forget that when you threaten to take the rights away from Christians to form their own conscience, that they will have more people growing in dislike for them.
If Christians tolerated their lifestyles all these years (that is why their agenda’s have grown) you may have more who won’t because now you have Christians saying no way are we bending anymore for these confused people because now the Christians are now realizing that the gay agenda has lied, it is not about them getting to redefine marriage but it is also about forcing acceptance at every level in our lives and private lives and to the point of even disrespecting what we hold sacred…..
Cronin was/is probably a lay eucheristic minister and like so many deem themself to act not only as a distributor but as an arbitrator. The church made a wrong choice in establishing this postion of lay people distributing communion, it is and always should be a priestly or deacons function.
What has happened to our Knights of Columbus? It is their role to defend our clergy and the Holy Presence. They should be in attendance and prevent desecration of the Host and make sure those who insult the Sacrament are escorted out of church (without a consecrated host in hand!). And historically, they carry swords for a reason! We are quickly approaching the time where that use may be needed again!
If the lectors and others in ministries cannot affirm their faith in the RCC (by word and deed), they should not be allowed to serve as such. You either accept and are obedient to the teachings of the Church or you do not receive Holly Communion in a state of mortal sin. This is foundational to our faith and yet our churches are full, Sunday after Sunday of those who think they can sin at will and approach for communion. To do so blatantly in front of the congregation also adds the sin of scandal to their list of impediments.
Alice,
“What has happened to our Knights of Columbus?” Apparently you have not been reading these post very long or you would know the answer to your question. Our “leaders” are too busy defending the honored membership of openly pro-abortion, pro-sodomite public figures to protect their obscene salaries against the efforts of those who are real Knights to get them to honor our own Rule (Article 162-7) that demands their expulsion from our Order! That, Alice is what has happened to “our Knights of Columbus”.
I will be going to San Antonio in August to once again confront them with this scandalous situation, and I fully expect once again to be scandalously treated by them. I am looking for support, financial and otherwise, to carry out this Apostolate. Souls interested can reach me at 714-491-2284/714-260-3821(Cell) or crcoa@att.net.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
There are no winners here. A new tactic is in the offing here, going back up for another Communion and handing it out yourself. Clever!
There are no winners here, just an environment of tension on all sides.
ULTIMATE WINNERS = Those who do NOT desecrate the Body and Blood of our Lord, and live according to His teaching and that of His Church – doing God’s will and getting to Heaven.
ULTIMATE LOSERS – Those who burn in HELL due to their own disobedience and bad acts – doing their own wills.
So called Good Cause,
Clever NO, evil Yes!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Coddling sin has reaped the terrible price of what took place in the Supreme Court. Yes, we need to reach out in love to those who have SSA and that is what the group Courage does. The only other outreach that is necessary is the outreach that has been taking place for over two thousand years. Teaching the full truth and a confessional.
yes Catherine. 100 percent agree …..and also for those who are not Catholic…..or any one who is Catholic…going back to the days when the Psychological boards use to consider it a disorder and find true therapy that helps not giving up. We need to go back to those days…that is how we can also slowly return to helping people seek out healing and hopefully leading a chaste lifestyle. Let us never forget to fear the Lord in all things…bring back the fear of the Lord and you will get to the root of things for answers!
Amen, Catherine!
For a woman to give a Host to Murray who was denied the Host by Cardinal George, is the reason why the Host, the Body and Blood of Jesus, should ALWAYS be given on the tongue.
In America, we no longer have our traditional way of life, established by our Founding Fathers. And we can no longer be called a “Christian” nation! Maybe Cardinal George refused Holy Communion to the Rainbow Sash smart-aleck leader. But what of the lesbian activist, Cronin, a paid Cantor, wrecking the parish and its choir, on a constant basis?? There are immoral “activists” everywhere in Catholic life, all over America– many of them in highly important, even paid leadership positions, in the Church!! One cannot even lend volunteer support to many Catholic parishes, schools, hospitals, universities, and charity organizations– nor give money, nor accept a paid job in such places!! I refuse, myself!! This has been a terrible “cross to bear,” since Vatican ll, and the evil upheavals of the 1960’s!! Makes me CRY!! No future, in all of this!! Stand up for Christ– and tell them: “NO!!” Then, brush the dust off your feet, and walk away!! Nothing else to do! NO FUTURE!! Our Church leaders do not seem to understand that!! Maybe a very few devout
clergy, nuns, and lay people stand up for poor Jesus Christ. But our Church?? NO!!
I will say only one more thing. In the post-Vatican ll Mass, very few Catholics seem to have much moral and religious training, anyway! Including many in the clergy! They don’t take Christ seriously, either! Holy Communion is a Sacrament– and very precious! It requires proper preparation, for Catholics! It is not something to take lightly! When I was young, people were taught their Faith, and people had more respect! Even a devout person leading a very good life, will not always necessarily go to Communion, at every Mass– for very good reasons! To add to this– the Church’s teachings are all very OBJECTIVE!! Not SUBJECTIVE, like immature liberals, hippies, psychologists; etc, try to preach all the time! And YES– one MUST HAVE PROPER JUDGEMENTS!! One MUST develop a clear sense of RIGHT and WRONG, in an OBJECTIVE and MATURE manner!! The Church and parents and teachers, must deeply instil a MORAL CONSCIENCE in young people! One MUST LEARN TO HAVE GOOD AND OBJECTIVE JUDGEMENT, and USE GOOD SENSE!! In simple terms– the proper use of REASON!! JUDGEMENTS are not to be on a mean, babyish, and SUBJECTIVE level, intended to HURT OTHERS!! Instead– one must USE GOOD SENSE, to JUDGE RIGHT OR WRONG BEHAVIOR, as Christ taught!! No “DICTATORSHIP OF MORAL AND RELIGIOUS RELATIVISM,” here!! And NO MORE RIDICULOUS, BABYISH CRITICISMS, to the Church, of “I WAS JUDGED FOR MY (IMMORAL) BEHAVIIOR, and do not like it! When will people GROW UP??
Why is an admitted lesbian served communion?
This communion in the hand nonsense is an example of how the Holy Eucharist can be violated.
What those people did in the eyes of the faithful was an abomination and was made possible by the lax management of church functions.
We continue harvesting the fruits of V2.
Whoa, dude!!! Did I read this right? Cdl George denied Holy Communion to some sodomic moron? Wow, praise God!!! And then the sleaze ball female from the choir stole a Host from the Cardinal’s hand? Deceit on her part. Sacrilege on the disrupters, and would be manipulators of God. No reason Cdl George should not simply forbid Communion altogether at that parish until every member of it walks on his and her knees around the parish property in penance. The pastor should be sanctioned also for not vetting his choir in any meaningful or responsible manner. But good that Cdl George turned on the spotlight on such extreme corruption there. As Pope Francis said, “we” have to do something to end the corruption in the Church. The Cardinal evidently has taken a step … those near him need to keep his back and encourage him to keep up the holy acts. Point out the demoniacs and get rid of them from the holy things of the parish and liturgy.
The reason these reprehensible demoniac sodomites are so intent of ruining the Church is that it stands in their way as they attempt to garner world domination, and hence world destruction.
yes skai…..its truly a disgrace…
I rejoice in the action taken by Cardinal George to protect the sacred Host from the unworthy enemies of our Lord. That woman who went back to take another Host has committed a terrible sacrilege. She showed that she is more devoted to perverts than to God. May God have mercy on these sad and wretched homosexuals.
Thank-You “Cardinal George!’ You showed the “Sodomites” what a REAL MAN OF GOD is like! I’m only SHOCKED that the Host didn’t burn the “Sodomites” tongue, that would have been “POETIC JUSTICE” indeed! God certainly has given them over to “Reprobate Minds.” My heart bleeds for this country every single day, and when the so-called “Supreme Court” ruling came down on Wednesday, I cried bitter tears. We are truly living in “Babylon,” and our children will pay the price for the ugliness that has been thrust upon this land.
Brenna Cronin, you and Joe Murray have NO idea how you are condemning yourselves to eternal damnation for what you did. You are using Jesus for your immoral, political rantings.
Way to go, Cardinal George! Now ban from Communion all politicians who vote for or fund sodomy and abortion during the week and profanate the Holy Eucharist on Sundays!
When will many in the Church learn that you can’t play with fire. We offer our understanding and acceptance and love of SSA adults who struggle with staying sexually abstinent. But, even some of these militant homosexual activists are out for blood.
I am proud of your Cardinal George! Nice to see a Prince of the Church stand up for Canon Law!!! I am so happy the top brass is doing the work of God. The Eucharist is something that we honor beyond all things, Jesus’ Precious Body and Blood. If you are gay and are practicing, stay away from the Catholic Church, please. We are not against you, but we will defend our beliefs to the end.
This rhetoric makes me sad. I repeat my last comment. We must not harden our hearts in these challenging times. We must stand firm in faith and love of our Mother church. We must look to our own transgressions with repentance and in love of our Heavenly Father. We will be forgiven only as we forgive others. Pray hard for the conversion of our fallen brothers and sisters. May God bless and protect our priests and bishops and deliver them from evil.
I have a hard time believing that the cardinal would have singled out this one gay man to deny Holy Communion, especially given this was a Holy Mass to reach out to this “community”. I would imagine he denied the Blessed Sacrament after Mr. Murray showed public disdain for the Mass and the sacrament by turning his back to the altar. The woman who then defied the cardinal and brought the host to this man showed the same disdain in her own actions. I applaud the cardinal for using good judgment and courage to show that the essential “community” involved was the Catholic Church and even in an “outreach” setting there must be respect for the Church’s teachings. Otherwise, please try a Church who’s teaching you can live with…it won’t be a Christian Church. But at least you can hopefully act in a respectful manner during the service. I hope the cardinal goes on to use this example as a teaching to every parish on the mutual respect that must be a part of any outreach program. Further, that when the Church offers outreach to gays and lesbians, it means we embrace you for who you are not for actions that go against the teachings of the Church. In other words, we’re here to accept any of you who would like to embrace the teachings of the Church, not the other way around no matter how much you bully us and spin the truth. I get really overwhelmed. After twenty years in professional lay ministry as a Catholic chaplain, I can count the number of heterosexual priests and sisters I’ve known on one hand. Seriously. Many of them are involved in relationships as well and consider celibacy ridiculous…no matter what they have said in their vows. They also consider that any intelligent person would believe the same. In my experience, the clergy and religious orders of the Church have literally been hi-jacked by people who do not accept and do not live by the very teachings they are supposed to publicly represent. Again, in my experiences, both in pastoral and congregational ministry from one end of the country to the other and states in between, colleagues who do not take the most liberal P.C. views on EVERY issue, including abortion, are viewed as ignorant and not to be trusted. People who pray the rosary or would like to have a priest bless a medal, etc. are literally mocked and ridiculed behind their backs by the very clergy they look to for spiritual guidance. I often shake my head when families of a dying patient are desperate to have a priest called and would never in a million years believe how often those priests think it’s a “pagan” ritual and a waste of their time. They are in a hurry to get home to their boyfriends. Chaplains and priests who would not even consider themselves as Christians but some mixture of Buddhism and New Age baloney lie to the bishops in the certification process just to get or keep their jobs. It is evil and insanity. I’m afraid Catholics who never get involved in the leadership of their parish often have no idea what really goes on behind closed doors and would die of sorrow if they did. It’s injured my spirit for so long I’ve finally given up and quit. I would rather pray for the Church than continue to work in ministry, feeling sick to my stomach every day from the disgust I know I will feel. I’m not saying all are like this, but as far as I have seen, definitely most. Whether the gay issue, woman as priests, abortion, etc. etc. I would guess by far the largest percentage of “Catholics” who live in defiance of the Church’s teachings are the ministers of the Church. No wonder we get steamrolled in this culture. Blessings to Cardinal George for witnessing the truth…something most in this country can no longer tolerate.
Lord, have mercy on their souls and forgive them because they obviously know not what they do. God bless Cardinal George for doing what should have been done from the very beginning. Every time a priest knowingly gives someone communion who is living in the state of mortal sin he actually assists that person into committing a “sacrilege” and the priest puts his own salvation into jeopardy. Just for that reason alone a priest shouldn’t co-operate. The priest is suppose to protect the host even at the cost of his own life; that’s how important the Eucharist is to the Church.
Outrage, I pray that I am dead wrong, but I see additional sacrilages and pernicious disruptions as homosexuals and their supporters are given over to their prideful sin. I agree with Pat D., we need to do away with “communion in the hand”. This is not the norm. What has befallen the Catholic Church in America? What an incredible demonic circus our dear Lord must have endured at this particular mass.
When Bishops do not enforce Canons 915 or Canon 1399, many Souls are lost.
By their omission or commission, whether intended or not, they contribute to: Sacrilege, Scandal, Heresy, Schism, Relativism and confusion within the Church.
* Code of Canon Law – can be found on the Vatican web site – check 915 & 1399.
* Apostolic Constitution SACRAE DISCIPLINAE LEGES includes: “Finally, the canonical laws by their very nature must be observed”. It can be found on the Vatican web site.
* The definitions of Scandal can be found in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” – 2284, 2285, 2286, & 2326.
* The definitions of Sacrilege, Heresy, and Schism can also be found in the CCC.