In California, it may soon be legal for gay men to list themselves as “mother” on birth certificates, and similarly, for lesbians to cite themselves as “father.”
Or, the gay parent could simply opt for the more generic label of “parent,” The Associated Press reported.
That’s because lawmakers on Thursday passed through the state Assembly with a 51-13 vote a measure to “modernize” the definition of the family to reflect same-sex unions.
Currently, birth certificate documents in the state have a space for “mother” and another space for “father.” AB 1951 sponsor Jimmy Gomez, a Democrat who represents Los Angeles, says the form is discriminatory and demands revision.
“The definition of a family needs to be more flexible, and same-sex parents should not be discriminated against when filling out a birth certificate,” he said, in a press release. “Under AB 1951, same-sex parents will be able to accurately identify each parent as mother, father or parent.”
The bill heads to the Senate next week, Breitbart reported. It would take effect in 2016, if signed into law by the governor.
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“The conduct of bad men helps us, alas! to understand that of the Devil. They walk in the ways of darkness; they rejoice when they have done evil, and they take delight in wicked actions. Devoured by the want of acting, and no longer able to share with man the grace, the joy, the purity he has lost, the Devil tries to inculcate him with impiety, blasphemy, aversion to the Supreme Good. He sees the faithful angel, after having conquered in the great struggle between the two angelic armies, accomplishing for man, his young brother, the charitable ministry which has been confided to him; he sees man, overwhelmed with those magnificent gifts of which he is ignominiously despoiled, ascending towards the throne which his fall left vacant. He is jealous, and his jealously urges him unceasingly, with sin and by sin, to make death reign on earth. In short, powerless to strike God, whose arm chastises his insolence, he tries to avenge himself on the weaker beings whom God surrounds with His paternal tenderness.” (Fr. Delaporte)
“But in this mercifulness of God, dearly beloved, the greatness of which towards us we cannot explain, Christians must be extremely careful lest they be caught again in the devil’s wiles and once more entangled in the errors which they have renounced. For the old enemy does not cease to ‘transform himself into an angel of light,’ and spread everywhere the snares of his deceptions, and make every effort to corrupt the faith of believers. He knows whom to ply with the zest of greed, whom to assail with the allurements of the belly, before whom to set the attractions of self-indulgence, in whom to instill the poison of jealousy: he knows whom to overwhelm with grief, whom to cheat with joy, whom to surprise with fear, whom to bewilder with wonderment: there is no one whose habits he does not sift, whose cares he does not winnow, whose affections he does not pry into: and wherever he sees a man most absorbed in occupation, there he seeks opportunity to injure him. Moreover he has many whom he has bound still more tightly because they are suited for his designs, that he may use their abilities and tongues to deceive others.” (Pope St. Leo the Great, Doctor of the Church)
“Jimmy Gomez” has a completely loony idea. The words “Mother”and “Father” are not discriminatory to the extent they exclude homosexual sexual men (that have sex with only homosexual men). In fact, homosexual men can never be “Mother” or “Father” (unless they have sex with a woman, hopefully after repenting). Homosexual sexual enablers in the CA Assembly and Senate can change all the laws they want to; after all Hitler changed many good German laws to exclude Jews from public ownership of businesses, their ability to intermarry with non-Jews, and all of that. The moral and ethic evils of such legislative tricks are not erased by a majority vote. Of course, the truth of this observation enrages homosexual sexualists and liberals everywhere, which is why they never debate anything, except to call someone a name, threaten them personally with physical or legal action, or try to take away their jobs, their reputations and their happiness, generally. What arrogant foolishness. Homosexual sex is perversion, and the notion of making it the “law” that homosexual practitioners can be anywhere around children, much less be called “Mother,” places their obscenity to new depths. But, the people of CA do elect these fools to office, so, in a real sense, you are getting what you pay for in the Golden State. “Mother,” indeed.
I guess a discussion needs to be held on what a birth certificate is; what information is needed; who the information is for.
This is the stupidity of the gay agenda.
A mother will now be a man.
A father will now be a woman.
No one will ever know whom the biological parents are in official CA documents.
CA residents, write to your State Legislators.
Other legal documents such as adoption papers, determine who the State defines as a legal family.
Changing birth certificates – away from the biological parents is insane.
This is what happens when VOTERs elect immoral idiots.
Dave, I don’t think that they are presently required to name the biological parents. I think the birth mother has the option to leave the father’s name blank or to put in any name that she wants. It does not have to be the biological father. It does not even have to be the biological mother as in cases of surrogacy and donor eggs.
This is why we need to have the discussion. A great injustice is being done to the child, so that the state has the information it wants, which is who is legally responsible for the child.
Anonymous, it should not be what is good for the STATE, but what is good for the CHILD.
Every child has the right to know who his biological parents are.
Sometimes this can even help with hereditary issues that can be medically treated to save the child’s life.
The State has other means (including legal adoption papers) to determine the legal responsible parties in the upbringing of a child.
All a birth certificate does is document the birth of a child. There is currently no documentation that guarantees a child will know who its biological parents are, which I agree should be a right. I believe in California, a father’s name will not be added to the birth certificate if the mother is unwed unless the father files a declaration of paternity. Some places, such as Great Britain, legally require the name of the father to be added. In some states, when a child is adopted, the original birth certificate is sealed and the adoptive parents get a new birth certificate. I have seen the case of a gay couple where the mother’s name is listed as the gay partner and the surrogate mother is not listed at all.
Write if you still believe it will do any good, but vote to do good by voting to remove THEM even when your alleged Shepherd cavorts with them!
May God have Mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Some things are not debatable . This immoral stuff has got to stop.
When the insiders at the 2010 Decennial Census decided to “Tweak the Tabulation Software” to create ssm in the system, and then had to ‘Statistically Adjust’ what they called an Over-Count, both acts violated existing laws – which doesn’t bother the ObamAcorns a bit when it gets in the way of enforcing their partisan ideology:
Judge strikes down Idaho’s same-sex marriage ban …
BOISE, Idaho (AP) – Gay and lesbian couples in Idaho could start getting married as soon as Friday after a judge ruled the state’s ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.
U.S. District Magistrate Judge Candy Dale wrote in her decision Tuesday evening that Idaho’s laws barring same-sex marriage…
Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter already has said he intends to appeal the case, meaning an appellate court could still put the weddings on hold. The three-day delay in allowing weddings is apparently in response to a request from the governor.
Otter cited the state’s constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. “In 2006, the people of Idaho exercised their fundamental right, reaffirming that marriage is the union of a man and a woman,” he said in a statement. “Today’s decision, while disappointing, is a small setback in a long-term battle that will end at the U.S. Supreme Court.”
Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden said he would consult with the governor on the state’s appeal…
Hurray for Idaho! Thankfully, Judge Dale denied a stay on her decision.
It was not Idaho who voted it in, but an oligarchy. We no longer live in a Republic nor a Democracy but an oligarchy.
And the first two men who supposedly got “married” have already filed for or gotten a divorce.
in the United States that is.
“Idaho Ruling Hardly Small Potatoes (FRC – Family Research Council)
If anyone can handle a political hot potato, it’s Idaho. Still, that didn’t make Tuesday’s decision on marriage any easier for its deeply conservative voters, who unwillingly joined the parade of states overruled by the judicial elite.
Reporters barely had time to exhale after Friday’s Arkansas decision, when U.S. District Magistrate Judge Candy Dale sent them packing for the northwest to write the same story in a different state.
Guess who and which Party nominated this moral cretin to her judgeship!
May God have Mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher,
The CA Supreme Court in its ‘Turkey Baster Trio’ ruling helped lay the foundation for this MISANDRY (Hatred of Men & Boys, Masculinity & Normal Heterosexuality) in the pathetic farce of the law – as did AB 115 by Hill, which I wrote and testified against in person – without much comment from ‘The Church’… here is an excerpt:
SB #115 is intended to work in Conjunction with other Misandrist Bills (SB 274, 131, AB 460 & 1403 etc…) – all oriented towards Denying the Scientific Facts of Male (XY) Gender and Male Fatherhood, as part of an Otwellian ‘Double Think’ Pogrom pushed by hyper militant Misandrists.
The ultimate Goal of these type Pogroms is to bring about what the leaders of the annual tax subsidized Anti-Male Hate Riot / S.F. Dyke March asserted in legal pleadings as their agenda: “A World Devoid of Men”…
The Pre-Prop 8 Court had ruled on three absurdly Anti-Scientific cases in 2005 and their claims for reading the UPA / Uniform Parenting Act in a “Gender Neutral” manner, have also been superseded by the Constitutional Recognition of Only Two Genders as Parents in Prop 8…
As demonstrated in the set of cases foundational to the Court’s Marriage jurisprudence, announced together on August 22, 2005 (K.M., v. E.G.: S125643 / Elisa B. v. Superior Court; S125912 / Kristine H. v. Lisa R.: S126945) – the Court attempted to permanently deny the Equal Protection Rights of Heterosexual Males, and All Their Children. Proposition 8 has invalidated all such attempts to disfavor Heterosexuality and reaffirmed the Equal Protection Rights of Heterosexual Males.
Even more telling of the Courts attempt to instill Misandry in to the Law is the bizarre ruling in favor of holding Males who engage in Heterosexual behaviors to a different standard than those who Intentionally ‘donate’ Male Sperm at what are commonly referred to as ‘dead beat dad’ factories, aka ‘sperm banks’:
“Usually, whether there is evidence of a parent and child relationship under the UPA does not depend upon the intent of the parent. For example, a man who engages in sexual intercourse with a woman who assures him, falsely, that she is incapable of conceiving children is the father of a resulting child, despite his lack of intent to become a father.” Id. at 4-5
Because Proposition 8 makes it clear that Marriage is between a Man (XY) and a Woman (XX), all such ersatz attempts to create Fatherless Children as a matter of law, must fail.
To do otherwise would be to set up such a bizarre double standard that says amongst other things, that Fraternal Twin Brothers have different paternity.
Consider the case of a Woman who uses a sperm bank to conceive one Male (XY) Son, and then later engages in Heterosexual Intercourse with the same Man, and conceives another Male (XY) Son – his Fraternal Twin Brother.
The Donor / Sibling Registry http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com is a testimony that regardless of what the Children of these Heterosexual Unions are told, they still understand and want to know about their Mother (XX) & Father (XZ) and Relatives of Both (only two) Genders:
“The Donor Sibling Registry (DSR) was founded in 2000 to assist individuals conceived as a result of sperm, egg or embryo donation that are seeking to make mutually desired contact with others with whom they share genetic ties.
Without any outside support, the DSR has single-handedly pioneered a national discussion about the donor conception industry and families, with its many media appearances and interviews. DSR advocates for the right to honesty and transparency for donor kids, and for social acceptance, legal rights and valuing the diversity of all families.
The DSR’s core value is honesty, with the conviction that people have the fundamental right to information about their biological origins and identities.
The donor conception industry is largely a for-profit enterprise, and after the “product” has been purchased, most doctors, clinics, egg donation agencies and cryobanks do not engage in discussions and activities which acknowledge the humanity and rights of the donor-conceived.
Every person has the right to know who his/her biological parents are –
both Mother and Father.
This does not mean they will not love their adoptive families.
Or that adoptive families (with legal adoptive papers) will not have the legal responsibility for the children they adopt.
For the State of CA to change the meaning of ‘Mother’ and ‘Father’ on birth certificates is merely one more inane agenda item of militant homosexuals, and stupid elected people who have no common sense.
There is no LEGAL right for an adoptee to know who his biological parents are. Depending on the state, one may need a court order and a dire medical need to find out.
Oh THEY have evil sense, but not common sense!
May God have Mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
We desperately need a country that accepts and abides by faith in God, and Judaeo-Christian morality, again! A family can only be one thing: a man and woman legally married, with children! No more baloney! A child cannot grow up properly, in such ridiculous and immoral situations, as what these immoral and sick lawmakers want to do! Plus, our country cannot abide by such evil and filth!
Seriously, who cares? It’s taxonomy on a form. Gender is an artificial social construct.
The only purpose listing parents on a birth certificate serves is establishing the legal status of parents. If it can be any two people, why bother listing gender at all? Generally with adoptions, the adoptive parents amend the birth certificate anyway, so it’s not like having two same sex parents on a birth certificate is anything new.
Maybe replace the parents’ gendered roles with spirit animals or favorite colors? As long as the legal rights are the same, it makes the same amount of difference.
Siollan,
It only makes the same amount of difference to amoral persons such as yourself!
By The Way, what rock did you crawl out from?
May God have Mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
What rock did I crawl out from?
I believe it’s called Earth. How about you?
Seriously, do you really believe that how you view or express masculinity and femininity (or androgyny, for that matter) makes you a better or more moral person? That sounds quite shallow.
Also: contrary to morality if it means gauging the world based on the superiority of certain physical characteristics. And egocentric if the basis of whatever standard is used automatically favors the innate characteristics of the one one judging.
Siollan, you point out the final end game to all of this insanity; the destruction of gender identity all in the name of “equality”. After the Liberal Activists Judges illegally outlaw gender, I wonder if they will next outlaw the different ethnic groups? After all aren’t we all just “humans”. If they are going to destroy diversity among the sexes they may as well destroy diversity period! Maybe that is what they mean by “One World Government”. I wonder if there will be allowed any “equality” between the rulers and their subjects? :(
Ethnicity is also an artificial social construct. More so. There is at least an appreciable genetic divergence between sexes.
I honestly can’t see why anyone cares so much about gender. Don’t you believe you’re a spirit in a prison made of meat that is set free when you die? You have a physical sex, but your gender is whatever your spirit happens to be.
Siollan, your question, “don’t you believe you’re a spirit in a prison made of meat that is set free when you die?”, gives me the impression that you may hold one or more of the old heresies condemned by the Church; i.e. Gnosticism, Manichaeism, or Albigensianism.
Or just old fashioned cynicism, Tracy. The thing I sense in most neo-Catholics and liberals is the incapacity to feel empathy or even interest in anyone who doesn’t’ share their point of view, as well as being choc-o-bloc full of conflicting and often opposing ideas because they don’t use logic or even commonsense. “Your gender is whatever your spirit happens to be”?? What on earth is that? I don’t want to sound like I’m accusing anyone here, mind you…just making an observation. (toothy grin) Also, anyone who can think gender is a social construct should take biology 101…maybe repeat the course several times, just to be sure it sinks in. And a serious study of the book of Genesis wouldn’t go amiss, either. Phew!
Nope. Manicheanism has a more dualist idea of natural and post-natural.
But Paul had a very literal idea of an afterlife that was identical to Earth but without physical reality… don’t quite buy that either. But physical reality is our only point of reference…
Medieval/Renaissance paintings of the Last Judgment often had the grotesque depictions of showing up in the manner you died… like Saint Bartholomew in Michelangelo’s Last Judgment.
Dana: Sex is biological. Gender is the social construct: Ideas of what is appropriately masculine or feminine, what is attractive or ideal, etc. It’s fluid and conditional. Look at ideals of beauty even within our own culture within the last century and there’s a great deal of variation. There’s some evolutionary programming in there, but mostly toward health and reproductive fitness.
And gender expression within the population is widely spectral. Imposing a single standard or artificial binary ideal accomplishes nothing but favor whoever happens to be favored by it. The degree to which a standard might favor an individual has zero bearing on the quality of that person’s character.
To frame gender in terms of morality is absurd. The only possible correlation the might have is if one values the degree to which a person labors to conform to arbitrary convention, in superficial terms. If that’s an important value, it’s a very collectivist one.
“The profound falsehood of this theory and of the anthropological revolution contained within it is obvious. People dispute the idea that they have a nature, given by their bodily identity, which serves as a defining element of the human being. They deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves. According to the biblical creation account, being created by God as male and female pertains to the essence of the human creature. This duality is an essential aspect of what being human is all about, as ordained by God.” “This very duality as something previously given is what is now disputed. The words of the creation account: “male and female he created them” (Gen 1:27) no longer apply. No, what applies now is this: it was not God who created them male and female – hitherto society did this, now we decide for ourselves. Man and woman as created realities, as the nature of the human being, no longer exist. Man calls his nature into question. From now on he is merely spirit and will.”
Man and woman in their created state as complementary versions of what it means to be human are disputed. But if there is no pre-ordained duality of man and woman in creation, then neither is the family any longer a reality established by creation. Likewise, the child has lost the place he had occupied hitherto and the dignity pertaining to him.” Pope Benedict XVI 12-29-2012
Kudos on that quote, Anon. Perfectly appropriate.
Benedict is so eloquent. Everything is framed as if/then, rather than polemics. But it’s still a little weak and frought as an argument. For one thing, the biblical creation account is not something he believes literally. It’s a myth. It’s comprised of a single representative pair as a stand in for all humanity. Representing a 90+ percent majority is necessary for the sake of narrative. Condemnation by omission is one way to read it… If you look at how Paul, Augustine and Thomas Aquinas read Genesis, there was a lot of misogyny that’s been mostly glossed over at this point.
Also: Ad-hoc families are often much more stable and healthy than nuclear ones. Ask anyone who has had an abusive/addicted/deadbeat parent. A high proportion of the people I knew growing up fit that mold. Unconventional stable environments are superior to unstable conventional ones. Dignity is not necessarily synonymous with convention.
From Pacific Justice Institute: Pacific Justice Institute sent a letter to Asm. Gomez formally opposing AB 1951. The bill passed through the Assembly late last week and is now in the Senate. AB 1951 is supported by the ACLU, the mayor and City Council of Los Angeles, the AFSCME union, Planned Parenthood of California, and several gay rights groups.
Brad Dacus, the president of Pacific Justice Institute, commented, “In a season where we have just celebrated Mother’s Day and will be celebrating Father’s Day next month, it is astounding that lawmakers want to render these concepts meaningless. Playing a labeling game does not change the reality of whether one is a dad or a mom. These types of absurd laws make our state a laughingstock and diminish respect for the law. They also make it clearer than ever that redefining marriage is just the starting point for LGBT activists who want to redefine everything about the family.”
This is about the destruction of marriage and the family. The vacuum of weak families is being filled by an all powerful government! Women were fooled into accepting that they only had value in being like men. We are now reaping what was sowed!
Children have a right to know who their real parents are. To deny them that is totally unjust. I don’t think there has ever been a worse time to be a child than in the times we are living. And especially, in California. Those that are spared being killed in the womb are used as commodities by same-sex couples who want to play at mommy and daddy.
Same sex couples are treating kids like pets. Without any consideration for the child, nor taking into account their human dignity.
So Colleen, you are saying that an adopted child has an absolute right to find his or her parents? At what age do they obtain that right?
Agreed Abeca!
Current news report are inflamed with ravaging hot fires burning in liberal infested and led California. I wonder if that is God’s way of showing us a peek of which lies before many Californian’s after our individual final judgements if we don’t change our ways, follow God to the letter, repent for our sins, beg forgiveness, and amend our lives. The fires of hell, its smoke, and the odors will be far hotter, choking, and putrid than what is currently going on in California. God is so good to us to warn us of what lies ahead if we don’t change our insane, unreasonable, wicked ways. It is just to so sad that many could care less about Him or their final place of residence after death. If they could only fathom what they are in for, and the beauty of God, Heaven, and its residents that they will miss out on. Shudder the thought, Hell and all its painful sufferings is for Eternity whether one wants to believe it or not! Trouble is, after one dies, and one sees God’s truth, it is to late for a non-repentant, suddenly dead believer! Misery loves company, and Satan, the father of all lies wants each of us to share in his misery. Time is running out, the end of the world is getting closer each second of time that passes. We will not know the day nor hour before it happens, that is why Our Lord spoke to us to always be ready for that moment when our earthly life is snuffed out. Pray the rosary daily and fervently for the sake of saving our souls, those of our family members, and our friends.
Maybe God is making a statement about carbon emissions.