California state senator and LGBT activist Scott Wiener, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, is utilizing the final weeks of the legislative session to rally supporters behind SB145, a bill he introduced in 2019 that “stalled” in committee. Wiener’s law would permit “judges’ discretion over sex-offender registration in all cases involving voluntary intercourse between teenagers 14 to 17, who cannot legally consent, and adults who are less than ten years older.” Wiener wants to decriminalize gay intercourse between adults and minors in certain cases, claiming that California’s current laws discriminate against the LGBT community. From the Chronicle:
If a man has vaginal intercourse with an underage teenage girl, the judge can decide whether he should be placed on the sex offender registry based on the facts of the case. But if anal or oral sex, or vaginal penetration with anything other than a penis, is involved, the adult must register as a sex offender — a relic of a penal code that criminalized those acts until 1975, even between consenting adults.
According to Wiener, the current law is “horrific homophobia” and “ruins people’s lives.” He told the San Francisco Examiner, “It makes no sense. It disproportionately impacts LGBTQ people because LGBTQ people are far less likely to be engaging in penile, vaginal intercourse.”
Full story at LifeSiteNews.
Another example of perversion trying to be mainstreamed. If it’s really all “for the children” then protect then from predators gay or straight, regardless of age because abusers are of every stripe. This politician is among millions truly doing the devil’s work.
This is not surprising since San Francisco celebrates and honors Harvey Milk, who admitted to numerous instances of sex with boys.
If Milk had been a priest, it would’ve been called what it is, child abuse.
If your child abuse is PC, it’s okay or at least ignored. If you’re not PC, it’s another story.
It’s “homophobic,” “anti-LGBTQ” and “hateful” to not approve of gay sex with minors.
Maybe some of the smoke in the Bay Area today is straight from hell.
I think we’ve discussed this before, and I think some of us agreed that the laws governing gay sex should be the same as the laws governing straight sex, and that we agreed that it all ought to be illegal when it involves a minor.
The Church agrees and teaches that gay sex is gravely immoral and under no conditions may it be approved.
The California Legislature is not The Church.
But as a Catholic, you are bound by the laws of the Church.
Yes, I am. And the law of the Church is that civil law is different from canon law.
Don’t pretend civil law is more important, state can’t save your soul.
Sodomy does more damage to the body, no matter who performs it. It is a perverted use of someone else’s body. It is more damaging to homosexuals because they are involved in it more — have more certain types of cancers and other bodily injuries.. They also try to encourage heterosexuals that it is safe, so they can excuse their own perverted behavior. You know “encourage others to sin to excuse your sin”. Don’t fall for it people. “You play and sooner or later you pay”.
And that all sex outside of a sacramental marriage is gravely immoral.
Anonymous: Two Jews who have sex outside of sacramental marriage is gravely immoral? Seriously?
Anne TE: Among HIV negative men, rates of cancer are comparable to those of HIV negative heterosexual men. Among HIV Positive men, cancer rates are comparable between gay men and straight men. Among women, cancer rates are comparable between gay women, bi women, and straight women.
Those who practice anal sex get more anal and colon cancer; that is a fact. That part of the body tears easier and is not constructed for such trauma, and tears lead to more infections and diseases. Promiscuity leads to other types of cancers in heterosexuals. Promiscuous women have to get pap tests more often, and promiscuous men are apt to get prostate cancer and cancer of the private parts earlier than those who are chaste, if they get it at all.That is leaving out the myriad of STD’s gotten from such behavior.
And no self-respecting Jew who actually keeps to the Torah practices sodomy. It is forbidden. Only JINOS (Jews in name only) practice such filth.
YFC, ewwww. Check your bigotry and antisemitism. I assume that you used that community of people as an example of non-Catholics? Not good. And you know the answer.
And yet again, nothing brings out more “YFC” opinions than a homosexual related issue. Necessary for Catholics to support, not parse, the moral teachings of the Church. Prattling on with stats suggesting homosexual sex is fine and safe is fakery. You cannot parse the truth.
It’s not a “fact” Anne TE. Besides, anal sex is not what most of the LGBT world practices, and it is not limited to LGBT people anyway. Most anal sex takes place between a man and a woman. That is a fact.
It is a mortal sin, no matter who does it.
Anonymous at 3:34 AM, I used the example of two Jews because they are often faithful people who do not benefit from sacramental marriage, who you want to regulate with secular laws. If you want religious laws enshrined in civil law, perhaps you ought to move to a country with sharia law. This makes me antisemitic and bigoted?
Again, please keep in mind that “sodomy” is a particular sexual act, practiced by more heterosexuals than homosexuals.
YFC, I don’t use the word “Jew.” I know that is somewhat controversial because it is OK to say someone is a Christian. Using the term Jewish is more respectful, but if you say someone is Christian-ish, that would have a bad tone to it. It is bad form to single out a community of people, especially one that you do not belong to, to use as an example.
i said nothing about secular laws.
Sodomy is an immoral act. Even in a man-woman sacramental marriage. If you can’t conceive a child doing it, it is immoral.
Jews and others can have marriages, natural marriages. Natural marriage is the name given in Catholic canon law to the covenant “by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life and which is ordered by its nature to the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring”, and is distinguished from a sacramental or Christian marriage, in which the two parties involved are baptized.
Any marriage that is non-monogamous (polygamy), non-heterosexual (same-sex marriage) or involves non-humans (zoophilia) is an invalid attempt at marriage according to natural law, which applies to all human persons.
Anonymous, you don’t want to use the word “Jew” because you feel that somehow using the term “Jewish” is more respectful, go for it. Because I used the same term that other Jewish perople use to refer to fellow Jews doesn’t make me anti-semitic. It makes me…well…articulate. If you choose to use another term, especially if you feel it is more respectful, by all means, go for it.
To the anonymous clergyman, “natural marriages” are only marriages in your mind. Celibacy is not a place from which one ought to opine about the nature of marriage. You have no idea what “natural law” even means.
Yes “YFC”, Natural marriage IS real and even predates Canon law. It was not dreamed up by a bunch of celibates as you suggest, but by God Himself as His plan from the beginning. Rainbow politics cannot change His plan.
YFC, you’re free to disregard canon law and all the teachings of Christ and His Church. God gives each of us free will and we’re blessed to live in a free country. Are you a Catholic?
If you’re a Christian, you may want to think of the story of Adam and Eve. Marriage (along with family) is the first social institution. It predates church and state.
We can disregard natural law, but we do so at our own peril.
God always forgives, humans sometime forgive, nature never forgives.
(BTW, do you never “opine” about anything with which you do not have personal experience?)
Yes, “YFC”, we’ve discussed it before but you still refuse to see the danger of this kind of legislation, only the pro-homosexualist angle. It may win you praise from the likes of James Martin but being blinded by a rainbow is in the end, still blindness.
By the way, Scott and Anthony Wiener certainly give a “bad name” to the name “Wiener”. The later got “kicked” out of a Jewish grocery store by the owner when he was trying to campaign after the lewd video he sent out all on his own.
Correction: it was not the owner of the store but a courageous Jewish voter who confronted him. The man probably had daughters of his own
This is the democrat party that has ruined California and most, if not all, major cities in America. Tolerance and diversity, but only toward those that agree with the democrat agenda.
I’m not surprised how many Bishops in Calif support Democrat party
ahh …… the wonders of the “Rainbow”
the Weiners & weinerettes have co-opted
the sign given by God as a covenant
between Himself & Man
true to his word, the weiners of Sodom were
destroyed by fire – not water
there’s a reason the ancient semites
referred to what we call the Dead Sea
as the Lake of Fire
For the LGBT crowd, it’s all about the kids.
So very very true…..
Acts of sex perversion used to be strictly illegal, in many places. Also, sex outside of Marriage used to be publicly condemned. America today, desperately needs good laws, upholding Traditional Marriage snd Family, and prohibiting sexual sin. Sexual sin, inspired by Satan, has ruined our Nation, and destroyed our children!
Our Lady of Fatima warned that more people go to Hell for sexual sins, than for any other! Our society has been ruined by sexual sin! America desperately needs to return to Christian Morality!