During a May 20 virtual panel discussion on “Laudato Si’, on Care for Our Common Home.” presented by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Los Angeles Auxiliary Bishop Robert Barron and San Diego Bishop Robert McElroy diverged in their assessments of the American church’s progress in advancing the encyclical’s message.
Barron said his diocese has done a lot of work to implement the encyclical, partly because of the fires and droughts common to California. But he said five years is probably too short a time frame to assess the document’s true impact.
While Laudato Si’ will be “one of the great legacies of Pope Francis,” Barron said that “it will take time for the church to assimilate this teaching into its broader social teaching.”
McElroy agreed that it’s difficult to measure an encyclical “this major a few years after.”
But he added: “At the same time, we don’t have 40 years left on the climate question if we’re not attentive to it as a global community. So my concern is that we’re not reaching out with that level of intensity.”
Full story at National Catholic Reporter.
During a May 20 virtual panel discussion on “Laudato Si’, on Care for Our Common Home.” presented by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Los Angeles Auxiliary Bishop Robert Barron and San Diego Bishop Robert McElroy diverged in their assessments of the American church’s progress in advancing the encyclical’s message.
Early in the discussion, moderator Marianne Comfort asked participating bishops how the church in the United States has received the messages of the encyclical and what progress has been made on living out these themes.
Barron said his diocese has done a lot of work to implement the encyclical, partly because of the fires and droughts common to California. But he said five years is probably too short a time frame to assess the document’s true impact.
While Laudato Si’ will be “one of the great legacies of Pope Francis,” Barron said that “it will take time for the church to assimilate this teaching into its broader social teaching.”
McElroy agreed that it’s difficult to measure an encyclical “this major a few years after.”
But he added: “At the same time, we don’t have 40 years left on the climate question if we’re not attentive to it as a global community. So my concern is that we’re not reaching out with that level of intensity.”
Full story at National Catholic Reporter.
Better act quickly, before the digital climate models are shown to be grossly deficient and woefully inaccurate (maybe beyond that now, but the Left won’t admit it). Never let a crisis go to waste! And if necessary, manufacture one!
Sink like the Titanic
Ah, the life of a bishop. Spending time commenting on nonsense like Laudato Si.
I respect the message to care for the environment, and I am doing my part to help. But the eternal destiny of souls is much the more urgent concern, unless one is of the mind that all are saved regardless of persuasion, or that hell is a relic of bygone scriptural understanding now discovered to be “contrary to the logic of the gospel,” as one important Church leader put it (Amoris Laetitia, 297).
With respect to those who wrote Laudato Sì, to my pope who issued it, and to those who are excited by it, such writings lack enthusiasm to draw me to Jesus or into His Church. However, freedom from my sins, transformation into the image of Jesus Christ, unity with the Holy and Immortal Trinity, being fed with the holy Eucharist are irresistible. After reading LS, I feel socially distanced from its proponents to walk this path. If leaders preach the clear teachings of Jesus for my salvation, my soul would cling so tightly that I would not be able to resist following them toward heaven.
Fr. Richard Perozich, since you are a priest, I assume that you already have been drawn to Jesus and into His Church. Different people are drawn by different things. Some are drawn by salvation, some by love, some by authority, some by concern for the environment, or the unborn or the poor. Some come through fear of the devil or fear of going to hell. Some come because they have been abused or abandoned or their child died and they are looking for answers. Some come because they have harmed others and are looking for forgiveness. Jesus is God. He draws all to Himself.
I can’t believe these bishops are serious. If in fact they are, this is a sadly ludicrous example of the non-essential episcopacy in this country spending time and wasting money on nonsense.
Ferrez says:
The End Game of LAUDATO SI’———Global governance! Professor Schellnhuber, founder of Germany’s Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, was an adviser on the draft of the encyclical and one of the four presenters at the press conference releasing the encyclical. Schellnhuber advocates for global government as key to bringing climate change under control, notions reflected in the encyclical.In several places the encyclical speaks to the need for: “an agreement on systems of governance for the whole range of so-called ‘global commons’” (174);“think[ing] of one world with a common plan” (164);“a global consensus … for confronting the deeper problems, which cannot be resolved by unilateral actions on the part of individual countries” (164);“a true world political authority” (175);— ONE WORLD GOV.“stronger and more efficiently organized international institutions, with functionaries who are appointed fairly by agreement among national governments” (175). Significantly, the pope says that such an international body should have the power “to impose sanctions” (175) or “impos epenalties” (214) lifesitenews.com/news/scientists-say-pope-francis-is-misguided-on-climate-change-as-environmental
Most Christians, when I was younger, were taught “waste not want not” and mostly practiced it. I was told “Eat what is on your plate because people are starving in China, etc. Fields of onions and other produce were even gleaned by the poor, or just those who wanted to get their produce cheaper by harvesting it themselves. Divorce was rare and abortion illegal. I have had no problem separating things in my recycle bins, yet I know others who complain about it constantly, some of whom are the same people who throw away husbands and wives, and often babies in abortions, as if they were trash too. My, how times have changed.
The last time I checked we lived on the planet earth. I don’t know of any other planet that will sustain billions of people. So, we better take care of the one we have. The current pandemic which got so many of us to stay home and forced high unemployment had the side effect of showing us what clean air really looked like with so few people driving. Now we know for sure that fossil fuels contaminate the air. Why would we not want to find ways to reduce the pollution that they cause? LS is a simple message: take care of the earth. We can each do our part. To desecrate the earth has to be an off-ramp to heaven at some point. Why would anyone be against good husbandry? The Bible tells us that the land is not ours but belongs to the Lord. Do we want to ruin what is His? Separate your trash from the recyclables. It’s not that hard and it is the work of God.
I think why many people complain about this is that many who push conservation really do not practice it themselves as the sexual sins and other sins are great destroyers of the body and our resources too, and often nothing is said about that. Unhealthy bodies from misusing them takes up more of our resources, whether it be from overeating, alcoholism, sexual sins, putting unnatural things into our bodies or unneeded plastic surgery that is more destructive than constructive. It does no good to sermonize about conservation without making the connection to the other sins.
Public schools are one of the worst offenders when it comes to waste.I agreed with Michel Obama was on good healthy food for students, but I saw children throw away good apples and other food and eat the sweets, then tell the employees, “It’s just a free lunch.”
It is not always that children do not have access to healthy food, some just do not eat it. One instructional assistant in day care had her students taste and eat some of the healthy food before they got their desert. She was told she could not do that, although she was not forcing them to eat anything they really hated.
In fact, many of her children found out they really liked something they had not tasted before, and went on to eat the whole thing, along with other things they liked BEFORE they got their desert.
I also saw new binders given to one school by a company thrown out, probably because they do not like the logo when it would have been easy to take it off or scratch it out. Instead they were trashed, not recycled but trashed. A few were given to employees for their children.
Correction: “dessert” not “desert”. I have been reading too much about the desert fathers. (Lots of laughs.)
Bob One this goes beyond separating your recyclables , the agenda behind this is aimed at western countries , not china or India where they have the most pollution .Why this policy and why now ? with all the problems the church has this is a distraction , a form of virtue signaling . The more time they spend on this the less time the have to deal with real problems that they can effect, with their moral authority in tatters this is not the way to serve the people. Given Pope F and stance on the environment, economics and the profanation of the Amazon Synod this is a continuation of his liberation theology.LS is not a “simple message” it is his part of his attack on western culture and our way of life , is Pope F going to fly commercial ? give up his AC in the summer ? no he will not.
Hear, Hear!!
Bob One can always be counted for the leftwing talking points… here are some reasons we are against it…It is another guise by the Left to take control of national policy and destroy national sovereignty. People with an inverted morality are more concerned with “clean air” than getting to heaven. No Bob One, promoting recycling DOES NOT get you to heaven.
What a load of rubbish. Wasting their time on crap like this. We need good strong bishops. Not weenies like this.
Anon, it is hard to disagree with you, to a point. When people say that we need good strong bishops they seldom define what that means. Go to your church some Sunday after the pandemic subsides, and ask the first ten people you see “Who is our Bishop, where is the Chancery, what makes a strong Bishop?” I’m willing to bet that the first question will elicit no correct response, the second will get no correct answers, and the third will get an “I never thought about that.”
So tell us, who is your Bishop, where is the Chancery, and what makes a strong Bishop.
Well, Bob, if there are those that can’t answer those questions, and I don’t doubt that there are, the fault lies squarely at the feet of the bishop they can’t name and his predecessors. Gonna guess there is an awful lot about their faith they’re ignorant about too.
Bob One , “So tell us, who is your Bishop, where is the Chancery, and what makes a strong Bishop”, here is my answer , gomez, downtown Los Angeles ., a strong bishop to me is one who stands up for the faith , avoids politics and social justice fads , during times of crisis he leads his people by example and fights for their rights as citizens and children of God. He is an example in his life and ministry of a good Pius man , someone we as the laity can point to with pride and respect , and be an example to future religious and converts as well. The best example of is Venerable Bishop Sheen , Bishop Strickland of Tyler Tx, Archbishop Chaput, and Bishop Athanasius Schneider are also fine examples. Bad examples are gomez , mahoney , dolan , cupich, tobin of Newark and mccarick., hope this helps.
Answer is easy. Junk it.