The following comes from a notice on the Orange diocese website in mid-December.
The Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange hosted the first diocesan event to be held within the future Christ Cathedral, December 14th as newly installed Bishop Kevin Vann joined hundreds for the annual Las Posadas celebration. Las Posadas commemorates Mary and Joseph’s difficult journey to the birth place of Jesus. The “Posada” means lodging or shelter in Spanish.
Las Posadas is believed to have originated during the 1500s when early Friars combined Spanish Catholicism with a December Aztec celebration. Today, Las Posadas has evolved into a religious and social festivity reminding us of the virtue of hospitality.
The observance began as Mary and Joseph, Shepherds, Angels and parishioners gathered outside the church – small children were invited to dress as shepherds and angels. The procession followed Mary and Joseph to locations around the Garden Grove campus where they were symbolically denied entry. Then, Bishop Vann welcomed the procession into the Cathedral and Las Posadas concluded with a traditional prayer service honoring the journey of the holy family, in Spanish.
The Diocese of Orange has more than doubled in size in the past decade, and much of the increase is attributed to the growth of the Hispanic community. Approximately a third of the population in Orange County is now of Hispanic origin and more than half of the parishes within the diocese celebrate Mass in Spanish.
How do you say Tabernacle in spanish??????
Tabernáculo! But that wasn’t your real question was it? Imagine a new Bishop who would welcome people to what will be the new cathedral. What could he be thinking? Of course, the real offense was that there were guitars playing music. Can’t have that can we? Happy people? Should not be allowed. What could only be taken as a bias against one race by another, not allowed either.
“Of course, the real offense was that there were guitars playing music.”
Grow-up already. Your personal preferences do not define what is offensive to the Church and to others.
Lead the way, Rodda.
Tabernáculo
if they haven’t alreadfy inswtalled a beautiful tabernacle, they will, before it is used for MASS and other sacraments.
las posadas is not a sacrament.
first time visitor to St. Timothy’s in Laguna Hills..no tabernacle or eucharistic candle in main church…both in an enclosed side chapel..no way to know as a visitor because there is no eucharistic candle…PROGRESSIVE CHURCHES allowed to be built by the previous Bishop….imagine what the new Cathedral will look like????
“..no tabernacle or eucharistic candle in main church…both in an enclosed side chapel..”
poor WALT — this sounds like you visited SAINT PETER’S BASILICA IN ROME, where they layout is precisely what you describe.
that darned VATICAN is so darned “progressive!” :(
Larry,
“Tabernaculo”.
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
In Hebrew, it’s House of Bread, or Bethlehem.
In German, of course, it’s Ginger Bread House.
go, team!
with so many people claiming there is no faith in the world, here we have the diocese of orange blossoming…no pun intended.
demos gracias a Dios…
If we return the universal language to the universal Church we get “Tabernaculum”, Latin for Tabernacle. Works for me.
And those who object would be said to be high on crackulum?
This IS great news! However, “Cathedral Our Lady of Guadeloupe” would be a name that would not only be a tribute to His mother, but one that would have significant meaning for Mexican families everywhere.
It doesn’t get better and more succinct than “Christ Cathedral.”
Kevin,
It is my understanding that Brown ruled out anything but name referring to Christ for his Glass Menagerie.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kevin
Excellant idea:CATHEDRAL OF OUR LADY OF GUADELOUPE
She is the patroness of the Americas?????
hmm…”guadeloupe?”
sounds like something the farm workers would be picking in the fields.
if memory serves, we are talking about OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE here, whose name has meaning:
The origin of the name Guadalupe has always been a matter of controversy. It is nevertheless believed that the name came about because of the translation from Nahuatl to Spanish of the words used by the Virgin during the apparition to Juan Bernardino, the ailing uncle of Juan Diego.
Some believe that Our Lady used the Aztec Nahuatl word of coatlaxopeuh which is pronounced “quatlasupe” and sounds remarkably like the Spanish word Guadalupe. Coa meaning serpent, tla being the noun ending which can be interpreted as “the”, while xopeuh means to crush or stamp out. So Our Lady must have called herself the one “who crushes the serpent.”
but this is merely one theory among many… ;)
NEUROSCIENCE – Diagnosing “WITZELSUCHT”
According to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Witzelsucht, from the German witzeln, meaning to joke or wisecrack, and sucht meaning addiction or yearning, is a set of rare neurological symptoms characterized by the patient’s uncontrollable tendency to make puns, tell inappropriate jokes and pointless or irrelevant stories at inconvenient moments. The patient nevertheless finds these utterances intensely amusing.
max, it also means “water wolf”. Wadi is Arabic for water, or agua in Latin, and Spanish language has a large Arabic influence. Lupe is wolf. What this means is some kind of predatorial creature creeping into the pure water from the sands of time. You should have seen this one easily, max.
Net result will probably be the loss of persons, other than Latinos, from the Church. If Latinos favor only attending Spanish Masses, the same might be said of others who don’t speak Spanish and are of another culture.
That’s been going on for years now and one reason why the Church is losing so many members –
yes, SPANISH MASSES are why everyone is leaving the CHURCH.
thank goodness someone figured out the reason!
now — can someone explain why so many hispanics are leaving the CHURCH?
probably those darned MASSES IN ENGLISH…
They truly celebrated the real reason for the season and His birthday. Merry Christmastide to all.
Denied entry? Virtue of Hospitality? The verse ends in: “…because there was no place for them in the inn.” – something very different and nothing more.
Las Posadas has evolved all right.
Go to youtube, Native American-Amazing Grace (in Cherokee), watch and listen, see and hear. Then you may understand the objective of the Church in Her Great Commission. If you still do not understand how Jesus raises us from nature to supernature, then you simply have to keep at it until you do.