The following comes from an August 18 press release from Thomas Aquinas College:
The Most Reverend Robert E. Barron will offer the opening Mass of the Holy Spirit at Thomas Aquinas College on Monday, August 22, 2016, in Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity Chapel. He will also preside at the matriculation ceremony following at 10:30 a.m. in St. Joseph Commons. The auxiliary bishop for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles’ Santa Barbara pastoral region, Bishop Barron will join President Michael F. McLean in greeting each of the college’s 102 new freshman, and then address the students as they prepare to begin a new academic year.
Says President McLean, “While Bishop Barron is known around the world for his award-winning documentary series Catholicism, he is first and foremost a faithful shepherd of souls and a trusted guide in the Catholic intellectual life. We very much look forward to having him with us on Convocation Day.”
Due to steadily rising retention rates, enrollment this year is the highest it has ever been at the 4-year, Catholic school — 389 students. Says Dean Brian Kelly, “We are delighted to be able to consistently attract young people from across the country who are so well-suited to our unique program of Catholic liberal education. It will be a great joy to welcome the new freshman class and our returning students to campus.”
Bishop Robert E. Barron
The Most Reverend Robert E. Barron is the Episcopal Vicar of the Santa Barbara Pastoral Region, one of the five Pastoral Regions in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. He was appointed Titular Bishop of Macriana of Mauritania and Auxiliary Bishop in 2015.
Bishop Barron is a native of Chicago. During his freshman year of high school, he discovered the works of St. Thomas Aquinas, which inspired in him a love of philosophy and theology and led eventually to his decision to devote his entire life to God as a priest.
Bishop Barron received a master’s degree in philosophy from The Catholic University of America in 1982. After his ordination to the priesthood for the Archdiocese of Chicago in 1986, he served for three years as associate pastor at St. Paul of the Cross Parish in Park Ridge, Illinois. In 1992 he earned a Doctorate in Sacred Theology from the Institut Catholique de Paris. He then joined the theological faculty of the University of Saint Mary of the Lake in Mundelein, Illinois, where served as rector from 2012 until his appointment to the episcopate in 2015. His Excellency has additionally served as a visiting professor at the University of Notre Dame (2002) and the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (2007), as well as Scholar in Residence at the Pontifical North American College (2007 and 2010).
Bishop Barron is the founder of Word on Fire, a media ministry, and is the host of its award-winning documentary series Catholicism. His Word on Fire website has reached nearly 4 million viewers, and his weekly YouTube videos have garnered more than 9 million views. In light of his pioneering work in evangelization through new media, Francis Cardinal George, the late Archbishop of Chicago, described Bishop Barron as “one of the Church’s best messengers.”
The author of numerous books, essays, and articles on theology and the spiritual life, Bishop Barron lectures extensively across the United States and abroad. In addition, he is a frequent commentator on faith and culture for The Chicago Tribune, NBC Nightly News, Fox News Channel, Our Sunday Visitor, the Catholic Herald (London), and The Catholic New World.
About Thomas Aquinas College
Thomas Aquinas College is a four-year, Catholic liberal arts college with a fully-integrated curriculum composed of the Great Books, the seminal works in the major disciplines by the great thinkers who have helped shape Western civilization. There are no textbooks, no lectures and no electives. Instead, under the guidance of faculty members and using only the Socratic method of dialogue in classes of no more than 20, students read and discuss the original works of authors such as Euclid, Dante, Galileo, Descartes, the American Founding Fathers, Adam Smith, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Einstein, Aristotle, Plato, St. Augustine, and of course, St. Thomas Aquinas. Graduates consistently excel in the many world-class institutions at which they pursue graduate degrees in fields such as law, medicine, business, theology and education. They have distinguished themselves serving as lawyers, doctors, business owners, priests, military service men and women, educators, journalists and college presidents.
IF someone said, “Now we know with certainty that ISIS is *real* but we can *reasonably hope* that the U.S won’t be too crowded with Islamic domination.” That might sound nice but it would be a very naïve and dangerous explanation. Many people would remain asleep and be caught off guard, not preparing themselves for reality. Please, read Father George Rutler’s, charitable WAKE UP call.
A Catholic Priest Tells Christians to Stop Being So Naïve — Wake up to the Threat of Islamic Domination
https://www.thomasmore.org/catholic-priest-tells-christians-stop-naive-wake-threat-islamic-domination/
Who cares about his lengthy Bio, what sticks in the minds of many is the misleading statement this man made to Catholics, that is “All have a reasonable hope of being saved”. I continue to pray for him and his brother Bishops.
Thanks, “Joe.” If anything, this shows that more than “looking Catholic” is needed for a college. In fact, B. Barron is among the worst of the Neos. He is largely hostile to Catholic Tradition, although he voices pious wording here and there. These people, like Pope Francis, see nothing amiss in the Church, while it continues to crumble, institutionally. One hopes that the SSPX, and other Traditional groups, are strong within the Church, as the Vatican will surely wish them harm in pursuing the fully live the Faith. Bishop Barron is not to be trusted.
Let’s make things clearer, SChristopher. Whom should a conscientious, traditional, and deeply faithful Catholic believe–a disobedient priest of the SSPX or Bishop Barron? Anyone who wants to be obedient to God, just as Our Lord is obedient, will not look to the disobedient for guidance. You’re contradicting yourself.
St. Christopher, while coming home from Mass, I heard Fr. Barron on Immaculate Heart Radio. He seemed to be trying to clear up any mistakes or misconceptions about what he said previously. He brought up that the Lord Jesus in one of his answers did not say how many would be saved, but told people to strive to follow the straight and narrow path in order to be saved. Fr. Barron mentioned that to say too few or all would be saved is wrong. He admitted that his generation was brought up too lenient on this issue which led to people not trying to follow the Lord’s teachings at all because they thought since God is love, He would condemn no one, while some of the older generation took it too far the other way and sometimes became overly…
Completion of my last post: concerned or too scrupulous the other way.
That was his description as I remember it, not mine. Neither did I quote him word for word.
Anne T., thank you for posting this. We just had a good old-fashioned “Don’t presume your saved.” sermon at Mass on Sunday and my son asked me how Father Barron could teach what he did. I told him what your wrote..
Enough with the Bishop Baron equals hope of going to heaven. This man is an accomplished preacher of the Gospel of Christ. I just saw and heard the readings for a Catholic funeral and the prayers of final commendation: I go to the Father to prepare a place for you, God will forgive you of any sins so that you can be with Him in paradise, be assured of the sure and certain trip to heaven to be with the Father, etc. Paraphrases, but the readings and prayers all speak of our certain trip to heaven if we believe in God and keep his commandments. The door is narrow and the trip hard, but we do in fact all have hope of life with Christ. If we don’t believe that, we are not Christians.
In the spirit of transparency which seems to be popular these days, the above comment by Anonymous is really by Bob One. When I attach my name to a comment it doesn’t go through but when I don’t attach a name it goes through as Anon… I will identify myself in future Anon postings until the computers are in sync. Thanks for understanding.
How Providential that you brought up a funeral reading anonymous, for it was Bishop Barron, who (right smack before her funeral) chose to publicly use unkind words to insult and minimize Mother Angelica’s support for Tradition.
Anonymous, Which poster are you? A lamp does not hide it’s light under a bushel while implying that others are not Christian. Especially when others also believe in holding fast to Traditions of using precise language to impart the truth. An “accomplished preacher” of the Gospel does not leave people confused. Anonymous, You, are also implying that those who DO ask for clarity, are not as hopefully desirous of the salvation of all souls. That is not true or Catholic.
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I copied this comment from another Catholic Blog. This validates the confusion.
Comment by Sparrow • a year ago
“Father Barron’s position is in my view not heretical but it is like standing in the Church and looking out the door rather than toward the altar. It flirts with a well defined heresy and fails to recognize a few important things. Minimizing the risk of hell minimizes the Church. Those who are predisposed to not take difficult teaching (contraception for example ) seriously are comforted and potentially misled. One warning sign is this is the doctrine we want to hear. The second is this is not the doctrine as presented by Christ. ”
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” In my opinion the surest way to know you are on the right or wrong track is to look to Jesus , His words and actions. If your view diminishes Him then it is likely false. Van Baltassar minimizes the teaching of Jesus. Note how Father Barron minimized Christ, calling him Jesus of Nazareth not Christ our Lord when speaking of His warning about Hell. He just lists Him along with others philosophers as if he were just another teacher. That is the mode by which Christ’s words are downplayed saying that at that stage in His ministry Jesus wasn’t speaking with divine authority.”
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“Jesus knew we needed to take Hell seriously and while I believe His mercy is available to all and the way is open to all, millions reject Him outright. Some will repent and end well, but how many? Likely few. The Bible and Christ should not be taken lightly. Thus is a lax age, where most reject all difficult or discomforting teaching. How different from Paul ” work out your salvation in fear and trembling”. It’s not for us to take salvation for granted. Father Barron is not a heretic but his view may not be helpful either.”
Fr (Bishop) Robert E. Barron –
” Bishop Barron on Whether Hell is Crowded or Empty ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmsa0sg4Od4
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Barron contradicts JESUS.
Barron needs to learn that JESUS does not LIE.
JESUS said “MANY will NOT be SAVED”.
MATTHEW 7:13-14
LUKE 13:23-27
How much longer will these priests and bishops including the Pope realize that ISLAM is out to DESTROY and CONVERT the entire world? How much mass murder, bombings, decapitations, will they need to see and WAKE UP already?? ISLAM has been at war with the West since it’s inception, this is nothing new, ISLAM is a death cult, it hates women, gays, music, happiness, culture, the Arts, and yes even dogs and animals in general, it can’t live with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and even each other, it is completely incompatible with Western civilization and nobody has the guts to say it!! Except one MAN, Mr. Donald Trump may God preserve him!!
Even if priests, bishops, and the Holy Father realize that Islam is out to destroy (which I am sure they do just by reading the news), guess what, they have no armies at their disposal, unless you call the Pope’s Swiss Guards a fighting force. So, I am not entirely sure your purpose for even bringing up the Catholic clergy, unless you just want to castigate them for no purpose. And then to bring up Trump: well, if Trump can manage to get himself elected, he at least will have an army, and a navy, and an airforce to deal with ISIS. But even bringing in the clergy as if they can fight ISIS militarily is rather ludicrous.
Actually, jon, bringing up ISIS is not out of line. It is the clergy, not all, but many, in a misguided attempt at appeasement, who seek to feign that Islam, the political system that is misconstrued as a religion, is a peaceful belief system. It isn’t. So whereas individual Muslims may seek peace, their belief system calls for violent subjugation of all who oppose it.
And the Pope and Bishops etc, do have an army at their disposal, jon. It’s called the Church Militant. And an army that is put to sleep, lulled to a deceptive safety by the assurances of those in authority who know better, is an army decimated. That is the sheep being ravaged by an impending threat while the shepherds pipe and dance.
Your posts, as usual, tend…
…toward what you accuse others of being. I’ll leave you to determine the proper adjective.
That said, I’m not sure what you think the duty of the clergy is if you find it outrageous that the clergy’s silence and disinformation on such critical issues is not appropriate discussion material on a Catholic website.
We are, again, the Church Militant. A fighting force. Not a cheer leading squad.
Prove it, AMalley. Prove the clergy’s “silence” and disinformation concerning Islam or ISIS. I will be looking for quotations from you.
It’s called a sin of omission, jon. But your schoolyard, “Prove it!” is proof that you have a large tender spot. Tender perhaps because the gaping wound in your supposed armor is NOT being tended by the balm of truth, but rather left to fester so as to spread infection.
But then, like YFC, you have proved the point by your continued pretense that a vacuum is true teaching. Sorry, jon, but it is neglect. And no matter how habituated you may become to a dysfunctional authority, no matter how cozy it may make you feel, a clergy that doesn’t speak the truth, but stays silent in the face of danger is little more than a passel of wolves in sheep’s clothing.
The hirelings who will stay idly by while the sheep, like you, are either…
infected, eviscerated, or led off the cliff.
So thanks again for providing the illustration of what can happen to a person who upholds a bound and gagged clergy.
So just for the record gentle readers, a person making a claim (in this case that the Catholic bishops are giving “disinformation” concerning ISIS) is duty-bound to give proof for his/her claim. AMalley, who has made a claim here, has NOT been able to substantiate it. She has provided no quotation, no words from any prelate. We have no choice but to discount her claims. Sorry.
Nor is jon the pious very original, like Joe Biden plagiarizing the “Gentle Readers ” address from yours truly—the purpose of which is to focus on facts. Like, though defensive in nature, the Swiss Guard is a serious fighting force.
There is no known effort to create an anti-ISIS papal army: but there is precedent. Both the Borgia – pope Callistus IIIand S. Pius V directly appealed for funds to create essentially a Catholic navy and marines, which ked to the victory at Lepanto. We’re they warmongers, too?
Today’s leadership and their cheerleaders..well, they seek to dialogue with the knife. You first, we say.
Lot’s of blogs and news sites are turning off comments. One of the things they find is that people make untrue accusations in them (or at least unsubstantiated ones), and the other is that some ridiculously small percentage of readers contribute almost all the comments. I wonder how long it will take CCD to catch on. What do you think, jon?
LOL! The now-pious Fellow Catholic, now firmly allied with jon the excommunicator (“From that day, Herod and Pilate became friends. .”), can’t handle the criticism so he/they want CCD to turn off comments. ;)
LOL!
Can’t handle the steady stream of facts, looks like..
Jon, when Pope Francis obfuscates reality by intimating that when we speak of Islamic extremism that we “must” also speak of Catholic extremism that is to draw false comparison. That is to obfuscate the reality that Islam’s tenets call for violence. Those of the Gospel do not.
So whereas you may insist on being obtuse, there are plenty of gentle, yet savvy readers who understand what is being said … and more to the point, what is not being said.
But then there are none so blind as they who will not see. That means you, jon, gentle or not. And I am not sorry for saying as much.
Could you please document for us your claim that Pope Francis intimates that Catholic extremism must be talked about along with Islamic extremism.?
Matthew 7:3-5
Thank you, Ann Malley!
AND YES, there are bishops who DO need to WAKE UP and these bishops need to Wake Up their brother bishops. I’m sure that ISIS appreciates the unyielding stream of ignorance being fed to the unsuspecting sheep under the guise of peace and justice. Don’t be deceived! Deceptions and ignorance both pave the way to help ISIS’s evil agenda and make it much easier to accomplish.
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Here is a link to dangerous quotes that enable ISIS to murder priests.
The Muddled Catholic-Muslim “Dialogue”
https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2016/03/21/the-muddled-catholic-muslim-dialogue/
A Catholic Priest Tells Christians to Stop Being So Naïve — Wake up to the Threat of Islamic Domination
https://www.thomasmore.org/catholic-priest-tells-christians-stop-naive-wake-threat-islamic-domination/
“From that day, Herod and Pilate became friends. .”), can’t handle the criticism so he/they want CCD to turn off comments. ?
Campion,
Great post! This is also a tremendous compliment to California Catholic Daily for all of their faithful and courageous work. The same stream of steady underminers of the Catholic Faith, are threatened! jon, YFC, and a few other, revolving names, have not been able to shut down the TRUTH like their cohorts have done in a diocese, chancery, parish or school. They slipped up again, by exposing their wishful thinking. God bless CCD!
Sometimes I am amazed at the rank ignorance of some pious-jon one: the Swiss Guard is in fact (a fact unbeknownst to pious-jon) an elite fighting force with top security and intelligence functions: some information by security expert Tyler Rogoway at his (should-be-well-known) blog, foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com:
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pope-has-a-small-but-deadly-army-of-elite-warriors-1733268646
Amongst the hardware the Guard packs (which may make jon quiver, because they carry REAL GUNS) are: the Sig SG550 assault rifle, the Glock 19, and the formidable Heckler & Koch MP7,capable of firing an armor-piercing weapon, and likely is so equipped. The Guard is also well-equipped in Kevlar and state-of-the-art defensive…
…measures.
For an additional interesting comparison, look at this youtube clip (only 4 min long):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLh59VzleJE
So, consider the Swiss Guard a serious fighting force, that carries automatic weapons and GUNS, and I just hope I haven’t made pious-jon shake in his shorts.
You think a few dozen Kevlar vests can compare to the US Military, which is larger than the next 2 dozen or so smaller forces? I hope you had a nice time watching those cute rosy cheeked youngsters last time you got to Rome. I wouldn’t want them defending my country, though, at least not without a force 10,000 times larger.
‘…had a nice time watching those cute rosy cheeked youngsters ‘..?
Always good to know Your Fellow Catholic is focused on facts and not distracted by…”cute rosy cheeked youngsters?” (Huh? I think someone’s kilt is showing.)
So, not wishing to argue the facts, jon, or Your Fellow Catholic, or whoever it is, because it appears they are the same, admits by default the Swiss Guard are a serious fighting force, and not some of his paper dolls in his collection (I guess).
Pray for these people, Janek, to stop honoring a man who consummated a marriage to a ten year old girl when he (Mohammed) was in his fifties, among many other sins of his. ISIS just used a twelve-year-old boy to blow up an area of Turkey, including many Muslims and their children. The group is horribly evil. I pray for the boy, who probably knew no better, but not the men, or women either, who encouraged this poor child to do such a thing. I cannot help but think their destiny is sealed, and it will be a horrible one. Nevertheless, our nation is not without fault either. We must return to the God of our fathers.
Islam is NOT out to destroy and convert the world. Most of Islam is peaceful, wants to be left alone in the world, and is horrified by what the extremists are doing in their name. Are thereradicals within Islam? Yes, of course and everyone knows it. That’s why we call them radicalized Islamic terrorists. But we have large portions of Western population who can’t seem to separate the radicals from the mainstream – as you illustrate in your post.
You need to learn about Islam. Start with the Koranic passages that call for violent subjugation of infidels. Then move on to the passages that justify lying to infidels as long as it serves the purpose of advancing Islam. For good measure read about the no-go zones in parts of France and Holland, where Muslims, enjoying strength in numbers, have created enclaves where police and non-Muslims are not welcome; in essence they are mini sovereign Muslim territories within those countries. Then put 2 and 2 together and realize you have been brainwashed by the Left into thinking that Islam is a religion of peace that doesn’t want to take over the world.
Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western civilization, as countries that are…
….then most of Islam isn’t following the tenets of Islam. Like many Catholics who feign that the reason they don’t oppose that which is sinful is because they’re pursuing peace. We get that, YFC.
That is why it’s the people themselves who may seek peace. But following the political ideology of Islam will not give it. Why? Because the tenets of that belief system call for bloody conquest. Not peaceful, loving tolerance and conversion for the love of the good God.
Thank you AGAIN for illustrating your agenda so clearly. You never fail to deliver and for that I am grateful ;^)
That most of Islam may not be out to destroy and convert the world is only because most of Islam does not follow their own religion. Just like most of Catholicism doesn’t follow Catholicism either. But Islam as a religion is completely hostile and irreconcilable with Christianity, and defending it on the basis that its supposed adherents don’t follow it is incoherent. Mohammad was a camel driver who in his aspirations to become a military leader devised a half-baked creed to recruit troops.
YFC’s post illustrates the same pattern and long history of denial that dangerously covers up the truth regarding Islam as well as the homosexualists operating within the Church. The recent Stockton scandal is more proof that the U.S. Lavender Mafia still protects and enables it’s own. No one did anything until a non-consenting maintenance man fought back. The loss of $$$ matters more than the great loss of faith.
Rorate Caeli – Denial is a river in Buenos Aires – and a 1999 address by a Bishop in Turkey warning against Islam
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/08/denial-is-river-in-buenos-aires-and.html
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YFC’s pattern of denial is still in operation. Please read the article link below. It was written in 2006. No wonder we have so-called same sex marriage now. Everyone, was s-o-o-o-o afraid, of offending sensitive homosexuals, but NO ONE, was afraid, of OFFENDING ALMIGHTY GOD!
The Roman Catholic Faithful – LifeSiteNews.com – Thursday January 19, 2006
Revealed: US Bishops Asked Pope to Delay Homosexuality and the Priesthood Document – By John-Henry Westen
https://rcf.org/docs/20060119LifeSiteBishopsDelay.htm
Islam not out to destroy and convert the world? The Fellow Catholic is a greater expert on Islam and the Islamic teachers of the law?
In prosecuting Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, the “Blind Sheikh” and head of the conspiracy in the 1993 NY Trade Center bombing, federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy found out something striking in preparing his case: Rahman was the recognized world-expert on Islam and sharia law in particular, possessing a doctorate from the Al-Azhar University in Cairo, the most respected center of Islamic law with over a thousand years of sharia-law tradition.
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/
McCarthy: So, “..When [Rahman said the scriptures command that Muslims strike terror into the hearts of Islam’s enemies, the scriptures [Q’uran] backed him up. When he said Allah enjoined all Muslims to wage jihad until Islamic law was established throughout the world, the scriptures backed him up. When he said Islam directed Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as their friends, the scriptures backed him up.”
McCarthy answers those who try to claim “different interpretations of Islam” exist:
“For our present purposes, however, the fact is that the Blind Sheikh’s summons to jihad was rooted in a coherent interpretation of Islamic doctrine. He was not perverting Islam—he was, if anything, shining a light on the need to reform it.”
“Another point, obvious but inconvenient, is that Islam is not a religion of peace. There are ways of interpreting Islam that could make it something other than a call to war. But even these benign constructions do not make it a call to peace.
(McCarthy:) “Verses such as ‘Fight those who believe not in Allah,’ and ‘Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war,’ ” are not peaceful injunctions, no matter how one contextualizes.”
Perhaps some moderate Muslims may have come to their own terms with Islam: but when McCarthy asked them if they were sufficiently expert on the Q’uran and sharia to testify, they deferred…to the Blind Sheikh, who they acknowledged to be properly qualified interpreter.
We do not have to choose to be blinded by a self-deception that we know the Q’uran better than the Islamic experts themselves. But the Q’uran tells you itself: “Islam” does NOT…
… mean “peace”, but “submission, surrender.”
Take it at its word.
As usual 750 characters respond to my post, yet I am only allowed 750 characters to respond.
There are dozens of passages of Christian scripture and Catholic papal bulls calling for violence against Islam. Dozens, maybe hundreds.
If you want ISLAM to decry violence against Christain West, why don’t you start by cleaning your own house!
Or try meeting a few dozen Muslims who are not radicals!
Please cite the dozens, or hundreds, of papal bulls calling for violence against Islam.
Certainly there are hundreds, you say, so it must be true. Please provide the citations. A dozen will do. Though there must be hundreds, since you sat there are so many.
And aren’t you the one always citing the absolute authority of the pope, esp. in diatribes against trade and Ann Malley? So, why don’t you obey papal authority to oppose Islam? (because there isn’t even one bull—except a lot of yours—by any pope, gratuitously calling for “violence vs. Islam.”)
Just to situate the impossibility of the comments from Janek, AM, Campion, et al: are they proposing to send the “church militant” into the desert of the Middle East to fight ISIS? Are they saying Trump is part of the “church militant” for it is Trump whom Janek mentioned (Janek never mentioned sending the ‘church militant). And more astonishingly, does Campion really mean to send the Swiss Guards to fight ISIS?
Fellow Catholic, Muslims are not the problem ISLAM is the problem, it is stuck in the 7th century and never has caught up with the world. You need to open your eyes and take a look at site such as Robert Spencers Jihad Watch or Pamela Gellars website and then you may or may not realize what the WEST is up against and YES ISLAM is trying to conquer the world it has since the day the mass murderer Muhammed founded it by the sword. And yes he did marry his 9 year old bride Aisha when he was in his 50’s!!!!! DEATH CULT NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS
Well then I suppose if you think that all of Islam is the problem, then you think it is justifyiable that some believe that all of Catholicism or Christianity is the problem. After all, if you can paint an entire religion with one brush, they can too, right?
And that is the point: One fanatical sect of Islam is actually trying to make you get all of the West to rise up against all of Islam. That is what THEY are hoping your response will be. So – buy into their strategy – but at your own peril and the peril of all you hold dear.
The simple fact is that Mohammed was a horrible man, and Islam says he was the greatest man and last prophet. The problem with Islam is Mohammed. Muslims worship a god that Mohammed made up. Mohammed never performed any miracles, and no one was a witness to any of the visions he had. They just took his word for it because they won a war and considered that a “miracle”. Mohammed said he flew on a horse like creature to Mecca, but there were never any witnesses to such a thing. He lusted after his adoptive son’s wife and told him it was God’s will he (Mohammed) marry her, Then he took her for his own bride and on and on..
Say What?? People can “paint” whatever they want, and will. Go get a job at the Home Depot paint department to hone your skills. Jesus is Lord. Mohammed was a cult leader ala Jim Jones or Charles Manson. Islam is a fraud, Mohammed was a fraud, and while we’re on it, so was Martin Luther. I laughed out loud at the challenge by one poster to provide quotes to prove the clergy’s silence !!! You people don’t need to get buried with all the responses here, you dig your own graves!
…not a matter of what “some believe”, but rather a matter of what a particular religion actually calls for in its tenets. And that’s the point. A fanatical sect of anti-Christians and anti-Americans is actually trying to force the West into coma so that even the natural instinct to recognize the signs of the times or the indications of an enemy force will fall to the wayside.
An overthrow of what is really IS is what THEY (that is you YFC and those who support the notion of “truth” being multiple choice based on the noonday Devil) are hoping to accomplish by shaming those who can read, think, and still choose reality and the good over the suggestions of wolves in sheep’s clothing.
So – buy into the strategy you propose – and…
… its SHTF and a subsequent shrug. There is no “truth”, no rule of “law”, no good, no evil, etc. Why? Because to say so means you’ll get shamed.
Not all hold “dear” what you seem to value.
as pointed out above, “Islam” means submission – submission to the will of Allah.
not a bad concept, if you think about it. by the way, “allah” existed in ancient syriac languages and was used by our Christian brothers and sisters of old to refer to – “God” much of the “news” about Islam is provided by parties with a vested interest in promoting conflict between the West (don’t think for a minute it is Christian anymore) and Islam. it’s an old strategy. Divide and conquer.
Wrong, Helen: before Muhammad was even born, the Meccan pagan god of the moon, was “Allah” (hence, the crescent symbol). Allah had 3 co-equal daughter-goddesses, and the Qa’aba stone contains their fertility -goddess images. Muhammad even wrote of the 3 equal goddesses in the Q’uran, but later retracted that claim. It is a primitive pagan religion with a thin veneer of borrowings from the Torah and the Jewish Old Testament.
The other symbol of Islam, which means submission, as in enslavement, is the scimitar, or curved sword. That us because in the Surah Ch 9, v.5, the holy believer is called upon “to slay with the sword all unbelievers after the holy month” in submission to Allah.
So, Helen, it is not at all…
.what you describe, “peaceful Christian resignation to God’s divine will”, but—ah, well, how do we put it delicately? — deliverance into brutality and bondage. Allahu akbar!
Read the un-holy Koran and it tells you precisely what they have instore for you and other “dhimmis”
My peril is my eternal soul and believing in Jesus Christ and the Holy Roman Catholic Church, we all believed in that prior to Second Vatican Council, you apparently do not!! Islam is a FALSE faith that has always been taught by the Church, my advice is go to any Muslim country for a week and see how long you would last. They beat women, kill Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, toss gay men off the tops of roofs in Raqqa Syria the de-facto capital of ISIS. Fellow Catholic you live in a strange LIBERAL world you are the on at risk, I would NEVER SUBMIT TO THE EVIL THAT IS ISLAM. Again read the Koran if yo have the guts.
and the hadiths that are used to interpret the Koran. One can find them all over the web posted by Muslims, and also their defense of Mohammed’s “marriage” to Aisha at, they say, at nine years old. Just disgusting!
Respectful, obedient, traditional TAC would never snub their bishop. Like Barron, I see they invited Abp Gomez as commencement speaker when he was newly installed.