July 7 is the tenth anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI’s Summorum Pontificum, a decree that allows priests to celebrate the form of the liturgy of the Mass before it was reformed in 1970. For most Catholics, this will likely fall into the category of ecclesiastical arcana, and pass unnoticed. Yet this same decree’s widespread obscurity—enacted primarily to insure “worship worthy of God” throughout the Church—implicitly shows that Catholic liturgy following the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) did undergo significant changes, some marking a departure from centuries of tradition. Successful revolutions, after all, usually involve a loss of memory before the year zero, the inauguration of a new era.
It’s hard today for many Catholics to imagine a Mass spoken in Latin, or chanted in Gregorian chant, with the priest facing liturgical east, because so many Catholics now worship with a different orientation than before the reforms of Paul VI, the pope who brought Vatican II to a close, and implemented the liturgical innovations he felt necessary to bring the Church more in tune with the modern world.
Yet Benedict’s decree has taken root. In the late 1970s, there were, in the United States, less than a dozen communities celebrating the old rite, usually without canonical recognition by a local bishop. Today, there are over 400 parishes (admittedly a small fraction of the total number) that regularly offer the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, as Pope Benedict called it in 2007. This growth is significant for a number of reasons.
One reason is the old rite is suffused with a sense of the sacred. Part of this involves the amount of silence woven into the old Mass. Those who have tasted this sacred silence don’t easily forget it. Many unknowingly yearn for it. Last week at my parish, for instance, I noticed after Communion many in the pews—parents, grandparents, some singles—virtually trying to wrap themselves in silence, with hands to their faces, seemingly saddened, as if they could not reach further into the mysterious embrace to which they had been called. I think I know what they were missing, though I dare not speak for them. I only say, look at this ancient Mass, see what has been taken away from you, perhaps even before you were born.
I realize that when the Extraordinary Form was simply the Roman rite, it wasn’t paradise in every parish in the Catholic Church. There was, after all, the “Here comes everybody” reality, which is how it should be: Christ died for everyone, not simply those sensitive to aesthetic values. But the ancient form of the Mass should hardly be considered only for those with so-called highbrow tastes, for the benefit this liturgy brings is for everyone.
In his recent book, The Power of Silence, Cardinal Robert Sarah put his finger on the fevered pulse of our contemporary culture: “The tragedy of our world is never better summed up than in the fury of senseless noise that stubbornly hates silence. This age detests the things that silence brings us to: encounter, wonder and kneeling before God.” Having in many places lost this sacredness of the liturgy, is it any surprise that, as Cardinal Sarah notes, we see a world increasingly incapable of wonder, of silent awe in the presence of God?
Full story at Crisis Magazine.
The Holy Ghost will ensure that The True Mass of All Times will return to Rome and all of our altars!!!
I, and many friends in my old hometown parish– a very beautiful old church– have prayed for the day of the full return of the beautiful old Latin Mass, since the very day that we lost it! Many of these good people are now gone from this world. And someday, I, too, will be gone! But still, I will pray, to my last days on earth– for the full return of the beautiful, old Latin Mass! LOVE the works of Pope Benedict XVI, emeritis, and Cardinal Sarah!
Of course it has not been implemented most of the prelates in the West detest the TLM. But the remnant of the Faithful will outlive those fools as I hope coming schism will purify the Church of its communist/leftist elements. Go have you protestant like service and approve all those sins you want to make sacraments like abortion, gay marriage, contraception etc. Keep your idiotic bands and liturgical dancers, in time you will crumble to dust and we will still be standing carrying on the True Faith and True Mass..
Bohemond, if your comments were made about a non-church related issue it would be classified as a hate message. Since you are talking about the Catholic church and the TLM, it really is hate speech. Most of your comments come close to hate. I know the world would appreciate it if you dialed it down a bit. Christ’s church preaches Love, not hate. It preaches Love, not vitriol. It preaches Patience, not hate. Your comments are the kind that send people running away from the church, not into it. Nobody wants to be associated with a community that despises everyone but themselves. For the Love of God, please be more gentle. It is the meek who will inherit the earth.
Bob One, sometimes, it is better to think about what a frustrated poster might really be trying to say– none of us are professionally trained writers! In this case– I do not get the impression that Bohemond is uttering so-called “hate speech,” at al! Instead, he sounds to me, like a genuine, rare supporter of Christian morality, in our Church, and is sick of all the preaching to support IMMORALITY (gay sex, abortion, etc.) by ignorant priests! Also, like many Catholics– this poster wants HOLINESS at Mass– not the liturgical abuses that have often occurred, since Vatican II!! I think Bohemond is just expressing frustration– not so-called “hate speech!”
Linda Marie you must understand people like Bob One are liberals and anyone that does not agree with them is considered filled with hate. And Bob One I will not dial it down, not when it comes to the Church that you and your liberal friends have left a wake of destruction.
Hate is a word that is overused these days. Perhaps Bohemond is speaking rather rather bluntly, but hate it is not. Impatience perhaps.
“Hate” is used to shut down discussion.
“Hate” is used to shut down discussion. Exactly to typical tactic of leftists….
Heilige Vater, Vielen Dank für Summorum Pontificum. I was able to say this to Benedict XVI while kissing his ring. He smiled back happily.
That is so totally cool and awesome…..
Gratias– Wonderful! Wish I could have said this, to our “Heilige Vater,” Pope Benedict XVI (emeritis)!! Impressive!
Linda Maria, the word is”emeritUs”.
The division happened when the Freemason authored the NO. The swamp of international communism washed over the Church. Like in society generally anybody who resists Leninist internationalism is called divisive. Try to dumb us all down to the lowest common denominator and those who resist are divisive. It’s so old, its boring. One other thing – judgment day is divisive. Get used to it.
William Robert; the disaster is Vatican ll which abandoned almost 2000 years of tradition. The church didn’t start 50 years ago, it started in year 33. Your statement that there are many problems and Anti-semitism associated with the TLM is inane. Pedophilia in the Catholic Church is the product of sodomites allowed into the seminaries.
When I think of the beautiful Latin Mass, I remember my seven years as an altar boy. Many people still want to go to a parish that offers that option. The Diocese should offer them many opportunities to do that. Having said that, we need to change the rhetoric a whole bunch. Millions of people go to the ordinary form of the Mass each weekend. That doesn’t make them evil or unholy people. Those who prefer the Latin Mass should stop calling the OF bad names and its adherents bad names. Those who prefer the OF should stop calling TLMers bad names and evil people. Neither is true. But we need to ratchet down the hate speech that this issue brings out.j We are a Church, not talk radio.
Likewise, Bob One, Catholics who love the New Mass–should always support other Catholics, who love the traditional Latin Mass! Many who prefer the New Mass– are utterly, ignorantly cruel, and BIGOTED–to those Catholics who love the old Latin Mass! The 1500+-year-old Latin Mass is a HUGE part of our religious heritage! All Catholics should learn to appreciate it, at least because it is a part of our sacred heritage!! It is DUMB to throw rocks at those who prefer it! Plus– many Catholics find out, that there is tremendous support for true Catholic Faith and Morals, at the old Latin Mass– and they feel it is a good place to safely raise their kids! And to raise Catholic kids today– is very hard!
Linda Maria, I agree. We all need to stop throwing rocks at each other. We are all Catholic. It doesn’t matter if we are orthodox or “ultra-orthodox”, whatever that is, we are all Catholic. Some of us just prefer different liturgies, both of which we call the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Both forms are of equal value and grace. I think we have to recognize, however, that it’s been nearly three generations since the typical Catholic attended a Latin Mass. They don’t hate people who do, they don’t even know what it is. Their experience in the church is in their native language.
Bob One, so called Catholics who support gay marriage, abortion and contraception are not Catholic, so we are NOT in the same Church.
William,
I disagree. I think Pope Benedict’s expansion of the EF has been beneficial. With that said, I get the sense that most of the division that you see on this website comes not from Catholic Trids but from those associated with SSPX. Pope Benedict never authorized the EF in this group.
William Robert, The traditional old Latin Mass, draws many Catholics who love it, old and young. It is also historically very significant– it was our Mass, for more than 1500 years! The Church today, offers the New Mass in a variety of modern languages, to serve peoples of the world, of many different cultures, too. Then, the Church also has the Charismatic Mass– which may seem very strange to some, the first time they go. We Catholics once were very unified, worldwide, with the old Latin Mass– but today, the Church has many options, for all. Also, the Tridentine Mass has nothing to do with crime— the criminal priests convicted today, are of the era of the New Mass.
The Tridentine Mass is not “anti-Semite,” and Pope Benedict completely changed the Good Friday prayers that viewed the Jews as killers of Christ. All of our recent Popes have made it clear, that our Church extends Christian Love to all, including the Jews, and has made it totally clear, that anti-Semitism is wrong!
William Robert– the main divisive problems of our Church– are the moral issues of unbelievers, who reject Catholic teaching, and follow the immoral, un-Christian, secular liberal agendas, such as abortion, euthanasia, pre-marital sex and cohabitation, contraception, gay sex and gay “marriage,” Communion for divorced/re-married Catholics without Church annulments, etc. These issues have split the modern Church, almost to the point of schism.
We must all rejoice that indeed Benedict’s motu propio has taken root. No doubt a desired effect of this is the continued reform of the Ordinary Form, making it more inline with tradition, because a reverent OF is where the Church is headed, and is the future. Sorry folks, but the EF, as much as I love it and frequent it, is NEVER going to be as wide-spread as the OF. Additionally, another reason to rejoice is because Benedict’s motu propio has effectively seized the Mass of the Ages from the clutches of the beloved SSPX. Lefebvre and his company has sadly done much blacken the reputation of the EF in the eyes of many Catholics for at least two decades! Because of the actions of Lefebvre, for many Catholics the TLM has become…
associated with his disobedience and that of his beloved Society. Pitiful. Bohemond uncharitably wrote that “most of the prelates in the West detest the TLM.” Well, perhaps you can thank the beloved SSPX for that, as the beloved SSPX has regrettably contaminated something as beautiful and as other-worldly as the Mass of the Ages with the blackness of their dissent, disobedience, and schism. With Benedict’s motu prior the TLM is undergoing a rehabilitation. Thanks be to God.
jon, Catholics– including yourself! — are all heavily bombarded with messages of what the Vatican wants and what it does not want! The Vatican is famous for telling Catholics what you are to believe, and not to believe– and what you are to accept, and not to accept, what you are to like and what you are to dislike… along with THREATS OF HELL AND PUNISHMENT, IF YOU DISAGREE!!! Sorry, jon, you look like a victim of PROPAGANDA by poor modernist Church leaders, many of whom are CORRUPT and DISHONEST– and have betrayed the True Catholic Faith!! Best to disregard all of that– and dig deeper, and find the True Faith of our Church— and honestly think things over!!!
Many Catholics today, are SCARED TO DEATH to go near the old Latin Mass, because the modernist Church leaders FORBADE the old Latin Mass for decades, as a PROPAGANDA trick– to get them to accept their New Mass! Plus, the Vatican has sought to PUBLICLY HARM those who loved the old Latin Mass- and has SCARED CATHOLICS TO DEATH, of going anywhere near the old Latin Mass! The SSPX is just fine— Pope Francis has extended lots of help and support to them! They have been victims of STUPID “HATE” PROPAGANDA, and SCARE TACTICS– to scare everyone away, and PROMOTE THE NEW MASS, BY ALL MEANS!!
There are also branches of the Catholic Church, such as the Eastern Catholics, and Byzantine Catholics– and now we have the Anglican Ordinariate, too! It is wonderful to visit these different churches, and see what they do! Also, it is nice to visit the churches NOT in union with Rome– the Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, the Armenians, etc.— many good churches, all doing much spiritual good for their people! Next, visit an SSPX church, with a good attitude– attend a Mass, try going to Confession before Mass (the Pope allows this!) and talk to the priests, and enjoy it al! You might have a GOOD TIME, jon!! Try, and see for yourself!
“…Additionally, another reason to rejoice is because Benedict’s motu propio has effectively seized the Mass of the Ages from the clutches of the beloved SSPX.”
What a crock. Same goes for the ridiculous notion that the SSPX has given the TLM bad press.
You dare say quite a bit that is over the top and absolutely discombobulated when compared to the truth ;^)
“jon the bigot” needs to calm way, way down! As a Catholic— he doesn’t know what he is missing! jon has missed all the pleasure of attending churches related to ours, and talking to their priests, asking all about what they do, etc.– and enjoying a wonderful, educational experience! I grew up in a city dominated by Orthodox churches, of Eastern Europe. Many Orthodox worshippers also loved to sneak into our Catholic churches, for Adoration and Benediction- because their churches did not have this tradition! Interesting to learn what each church believes, and their form of worship– and beautiful liturgies!
The Russian Orthodox Church split off with us, 1,000 years ago– with very hard feelings, on both sides! Much worse, than the SSPX situation! Our Popes today, however, set good examples, by greeting leaders of such churches as the Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Armenian, Coptic, (etc.)— and also, the SSPX!! — with lots of brotherly love and goodwill! None of these churches, and their leaders, must be childishly maligned, as “evil,” “dissident,” or “horrible,” to be maliciously abused!! Instead, we all should be friends, and see how close we can come, to a lovely reunion! The Popes of today, lead the way!! Bravo!
P.S. Our fellow Christians are being brutally martyred, today, all over the world! We see horror stories of ISIS zealots murdering Coptic, Iraqi,and Syrian Christians– and-we have seen the brutal bloodshed of Communist revolutions in Russia, China, Vietnam, and other countries, killing all religious leaders and their congregations! And a century ago, we had the horrific Armenian genocide!! Christians should always promote brotherly love, understanding, kindness, and peace, and foster intelligent mutual respect, support and appreciation! Very important!
The SSPX is not in schism, nor do its members dissent ipso facto being SSPX priests. You are casting aspersions on a group of largely holy and selfless priests and bishops.
Some bishops and priests supposedly “in good standing” ARE dissenters and ARE disobedient. I dare say dissent is far more prevalent in the Society of Jesus (even going as HIGH IN AUTHORITY as you can go in the society *hint*) than in the SSPX. The “beloved” Fr. James Martin, S.J. is a dissenter. Would you criticize that “beloved” priest or the “beloved” Jesuits for the harm they are causing in the Church?
Sorry to say Covfefe but Pope St. John Paul II in his Apostolic Letter from July 1988 entitled “Ecclesia Dei” judged Lefebvre’s action of illicitly ordaining the four bishops as a “schismatic act” (article 3). It is out of the paternal benevolence of Pope Francis that he has allowed for the validity of the sacraments of reconciliation and matrimony administered by members of the beloved SSPX.
Wonderful that now, SSPX priests can be ordained, without the permission of the local bishop of the Diocese where they are located! I would love to attend the next ordination, at their new and much larger seminary, in Virginia!! They always have many more priestly ordinations, each year, than many of our dioceses, including our big SF Archdiocese– I think we only had two priestly ordinations, this year! Wonderful too, that one of our newly-ordained priests, Fr. Yu, loves the old Latin Mass, and offered it immediately (last Sunday!) at his parish church, Sts. Peter and Paul, in San Francisco– and gave his first blessings, too, after Mass! Very special!
SSPX Bishops now are free to ordain their own priests, Pope Francis said– without needing the permission from the bishop of their local diocese. And all SSPX ordinations are fully recognized by the Catholic Church in Rome! So– we all can attend any SSPX ordination, knowing it is all totally accepted, in the Vatican! All SSPX priests are now regarded as valid priests, with Rome!
This half-truth must be refuted. La Stampa printed an interview with Archbishop Pozzo of Ecclesia Dei: “The Holy See – the Secretary of Ecclesia Dei explained – permits and tolerates the priestly ordinations of the Fraternity of St. Pius X, even while continuing to consider them valid but not licit, subject to communication of the names of the ordinands to the bishop of the place.” The Church regards ordinations of the beloved SSPX as valid yet illicit! To say as LMaria does that the beloved SSPX don’t need permission from local bishop is wrong. As Pozzo said, they’re still subject to notification of the bishop. MOREOVER, Pope Benedict’s judgment that the beloved SSPX do not have legal ministry in the Church STILL STANDS…
You can find an article to read on the subject of the Pope now allowing SSPX bishops to VALIDLY ordain their own priests— without needing permission from local diocesan bishops (etc.) — in an article published on May 25th, 2017, in the California Catholic Daily. All SSPX ordinations are considered VALID by the Pope! Wonderful!! Both sides are working together, as they should, for UNITY in our Church! We all must pray for SUCCESS for this endeavor, between the Pope and SSPX!!
Of course– we now have both forms of the Mass– the New Mass (Novus Ordo) and the old Latin Mass!! BOTH are equally valid!! Catholics are free to choose for themselves, which Mass they wish to attend! That is really great!
Plus– now couples preparing for the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, can choose to either have their wedding Mass in the post-Vatican II tradition, or else, they may choose the old Latin Holy Sacrament of Matrimony, just like their parents, or grandparents etc.– when they got married, prior to the Council!! The couple can also choose to get married by an SSPX priest, too! Very lovely! Lots of nice choices, for Catholic couples preparing to marry!
Ladies and gentlemen, especially LMaria: the VALIDITY of the sacraments offered by your beloved SSPX was never in question. Rather, the ILLEGALITY, the ILLICITNESS of the sacraments offered by the same beloved SSPX, is the point. This is not just Masses offered by your beloved SSPX, but by any priest whose status is unclear! There are priests out there who may be on leave, or whose faculties have been removed by his bishop, or who are not in good standing; the Masses they offer (in private or in public) are indeed valid, but no responsible Catholic should go to those Masses. Same with the Masses offered by your beloved SSPX: only if no other valid and licit Masses is available, is it allowed to go to an illicit Mass. Folks, you…
have to know this because some folks (like LM) are telling you it’s ok to go to to SSPX ordinations, when that is not entirely true!
If the Pope has given his authorization for ordinations to the Catholic priesthood to proceed unabated then there is no barrier for attending the reception of the sacrament. (The lay faithful are observing, not being ordained.)
I am heartened, however, that you have finally conceded the point of validity. Something you were wont to admit not too long ago. Beloved intervention, I suppose. Who knows.
One thing is certain, responsible Catholics are precisely that. Responsible. Your spreading personal bias is not.
“jon, the bigot”– your post only reflects your own hateful bigotry, and ignorance! And most certainly– I have NO AUTHORITY, kiddo, to tell anybody anything at all! I am a layman, like YOU!! And I WELCOME, PRAY FOR, AND SUPPORT excellent Catholic groups, doing good work for Christ, seeking negotiations with the Church, in a proper and excellent manner, very patiently!! YES– the SSPX and Rome have made tremendous strides lately, towards unity–and even more good work will take place, in the future! Everyone knows, that the situation is still “in progress!”
YES, the SSPX ordinations of priests by their bishops, are VALID! And they DO NOT need permission, from the local diocesan bishop! YES a Catholic can attend an SSPX Mass, and go to an SSPX priest for Confession and the Sacrament of Marriage! YES!! And the first thing that a little layman like “jon” will be told, when entering an SSPX chapel, is– “you know, of course, our situation with Rome is still in negotiations…” etc. The SSPX priests always tell you the FACTS about their situation, and they are always happy to answer any questions! The SSPX seeks UNITY with Rome– in the correct manner!! EXCELLENT!!
It is very important, for Christians to always behave like mature adults, with excellent manners, and respect– and to extend brotherly love towards all other religious groups– and be respectful of groups seeking communion with Rome, and pray for them!! Excellent groups like the SSPX priests will bring tremendous good, worldwide, to the Catholic Church! And they are VERY RESPECTFUL, always correctly honoring the process of proper negotiations with Rome! Another wonderful group that successfully united with Rome, is the new Anglican branch of our Church! EXCELLENT!!
Unlike LM I would be leery to call the beloved SSPX an “excellent group” for various valid reasons. The first is Lefebvre’s mistreatment, insult, and disobedience against the saintly John Paul II. The second is the beloved SSPX’s disparagement and belittling of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the Ordinary Form. The third is their repudiation of an entire Council of the Church: Vatican II, thereby disobeying the entire Magisterium. Fourthly–which relates to this article–their sullying the reputation of the TLM in the eyes of many Catholics. For two generations of Catholics, the TLM has been associated with the beloved SSPX and thereby associated with their disobedience and resistance against the Magisterium. This is MOST…
unfortunate. Benedict’s motu propio, Summorum Pontificum, the TLM is being rehabilitated.
Neither the Pope nor the SSPX, has been acting like unChristian, immature, lawless, barbaric imbeciles, with no manners, such as what you think, in such very childish terms, jon! They are NOT throwing rocks at each other at all! They are very cordial to one another, with excellent manners, and are seeking reconciliation like adults! Try to grow up, jon, and see the world from an ADULT viewpoint! If you had ever met Abp. Lefebvre, or any of his priests or bishops– you would find very excellent, holy, fine, beautifully-mannered, brilliant, soft-spoken European gentlemen clerics, far better than what you are used to!
Here is something that is extremely beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2HGaJU-5Zs. I do not know if the link came out, but it is “Sicut Cervus — like the Deer that yearns – You Tube” It is often sung at the Traditional Latin High Mass. It is by Palestrina and is the text of Psalm 42:1 in Latin.
Anne T.- I have always loved Palestrina! His motet, “Sicut Cervus,” is wonderful! — a favorite, for many, to sing! It is also easy! Maybe you would like to join a good Catholic choir! Wonderful!
Thank you for the link. Beautiful.
When I hear something like that in church, especially drifting mystically down from a choir loft, I feel that I am near to heaven.
The motets with music and words are all on line, so are the Gregorian chants. The videos with music and words for the chants are on Corpus Christi Watershed.
There is a treasure chest of beautiful Christian music on line. Some of the English ones I recommend are “Be Thou My Vision” by Nathan Pacheco and “The King of Love My Shepherd Is” by the St. Columba Cardiff Festival Choir. I love the Celtic term used for the Lord Jesus (The High King of Heaven).
It seems Nathan Pacheco is a Mormon, but he has a fantastic voice as do many Mormons. I do not know how much he actually adheres to the Mormon doctrine. The video I recommended looks as if it is done in a Catholic or other Trinitarian type church.
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It is a clear-cut evasion of the truth to maintain that over the past half-century the laity has spoken and prefers Novus Ordo. First of all, from the mid-sixties the Tridentine Mass was to all intents and purposes outlawed and widely disparaged by the priesthood and hierarchy. There was no opportunity given to the laity to show whether they were in favor of liturgical experimentation; the people were presented with a Hobson’s choice: you either go to the Novus Ordo or you stay home. The rationale given for the changes was essentially that we no longer would dwell in some ancient ghetto, that we would take our place in the contemporary world. One priest was quoted as say that as long as there remained a word of Latin in the Mass “it…