The following comes from a June 30 story in the New York Times.
The Supreme Court declined on Monday to hear a challenge to a California law that bans “conversion therapy” aimed at changing the sexual orientation of gay and lesbian minors.
The court, in rejecting the case, effectively let stand a federal appeals court ruling issued last August that said that the state’s ban on the practice did not violate the free speech rights of counselors or people seeking treatment. The appeals court had said that the state had an interest in banning professional treatments it considered harmful.
The Supreme Court did not say why it rejected the case, as is its custom.
Some conservative and religious groups continue to argue that sexuality is not innate and that a person could change his or her sexual orientation. Scientific and medical groups, however, have said that there is no evidence that sexual attractions can be changed. They also say that conversion therapies can be harmful….
To read the entire story, click here.
The following comes from a July 1 email from Randy Thomasson.
Principled counselors urged to continue helping gender-confused children
Sacramento, California — Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com, a leading family values organization that promotes moral virtues for the common good, has issued the following statement regarding yesterday’s refusal of the U.S. Supreme Court’s to hear an appeal of the California Democrats’ ban on professional counseling for gender-confused children.
“When a child is molested and suffers gender confusion as a result, it is unconscionable not to help the child escape the mental cage of their sexual perpetrator,” Thomasson said. “The Democrats’ SB 1172 prohibits parents and counselors from loving gender-confused children enough to address and heal their inner pain, and instead locks children into unnatural homosexual and transsexual behavior.”
“We call upon principled counselors to continue helping these damaged children, despite this bad law of the ‘LGBT’ groups and Democrat lawmakers,” Thomasson said. “This unconstitutional statute violates the free speech and religious freedom of parents and counselors, and revictimizes children who desperately need help for their damaged souls.”
California State Assembly floor vote on SB 1172 here,
California State Senate floor vote on SB 1172 here.
A bit of unclarity in the text.
‘The Supreme Court did not say why it rejected the case as is its custom.’
Is the custom to state a reason for rejection? Or not? I believe that phrasing can be read either way.
The court usually does not give a reason for declining to hear a case.
“Psychotherapeutic modalities to convert or ‘repair’ homosexuality are based on developmental theories whose scientific validity is questionable. Furthermore, anecdotal reports of ‘cures’ are counterbalanced by anecdotal claims of psychological harm. In the last four decades, ‘reparative’ therapists have not produced any rigorous scientific research to substantiate their claims of cure. Until there is such research available, [the American Psychiatric Association] recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals’ sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum to first, do no harm.
You are overlooking the Medical Dictum to UNDO THE HARM.
The Gay HomoSEXUAL, Lesbian and other Ilk, that Violated the Child, in your view seem to have all the rights and child is to be abandoned to their devious and cowardly and selfish actions.
The childs parents must be the ones to make the decision to provide allt the assistance mecessary to return the Violated Child to the NORMAL Life that existed prior to the Vicious Attack on a Helpless Chiild.
I suggest that you purchase two 6 foot electircal cords with male and female plugs on either end. Now I ask you to attach both of these cords together…using only the female to female plug, and alternatively using only the male to male plugs. You will soon see the error or your thought and ways.
This explanation should remove all doubt from your mind, otherwise I must ask if you are a Deviant from the Normal Sexual Orentation?
Mike I agree it is an unclear statement. Independent of what the author intended, it is clear that most cases are not taken up by the Supreme Court, and it is also true that when the Court decides not to take a case, it does not issue a statement saying why it didn’t take the case. So in both regards, this case is actually very typical of how the Supreme Court works. The Court typically only takes cases in which either the lower court was clearly egregiously wrong, or cases where one lower (circuit) court decides one thing on an issue, and another circuit court decides something different on the same issue. The Court then steps in and plays a kind of arbiter role between the two.
The Supreme Court also does not take cases that are too “hot” to handle.
It did overturn their own Dred Scott case where blacks were said to be property rather than persons and had no standing as citizens.
It has yet to overturn the murder of approx. 1 million innocent unborn human beings each year in the USA – even though the technology of imaging proves they are human and not blobs as argued in 1973.
This is one reason for the saying: “The Law Is A Ass!”
Also, in the Sheakspear Play the line that states:
“First Let Us \Kill All The Lawyers”
Thank God that is was only written in a Play, and not in real life!
I pray that all parents of gender confused teens continue to take their children to “principled and trained” counselors for help.
Litigation is only a tool, and there will be ups and downs. Not much can be made of this, other than that four justices could not be found to take it up. This does not mean anything else. The issue could arise for review in another context and likely will. As to the ban itself, it represents nothing more than a political victory for the homofascists lobby, something getting pretty easy to get in CA, the State that brought you the right for boys to go into girls bathrooms. What a complete joke and travesty of elected reason. Homosexual members of the CA legislature are there to protect and advance the rights of sodomites, not much else (kind of like Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg protecting abortion rights, no matter how gruesome). It is nice to have a Team, after all.
Well, keep in mind that there is only a handful of gay members of the state legislature. These laws pass with overwhelming majorities because straight legislators vote for them. You can call that homofascism if you like, I suppose, but you would miss the point and people who look at your claim of fascism would just scratch their heads and wonder where you are coming from. This is democracy and common sense, not fascism.
True Democracy is when the People Vote via Referendum to make the Laws and not those whom do not truly represent the will of the Majority of the Population.
Most Politicians do not have the courage of their convictions…they are always attempting to keep on the good side of many of the voters, they many times try to appeal to the Minority Groups hoping that their Votes will put them over the top on Election Day.
The Majority must get out on Election Day and VOTE for the truly Best Candidate regarless of Party or Presidential Candidate, if they want to have a more Democratic Government…and not just by the Party Name of Democrat.
This is the same government institution which proclaimed that Blacks were not human beings, that legalized slavery, permitted abortion, and took prayer out of public schools. It should be no surprise when the supreme court acts against Christian morality. It was a shock that they sided with Hobby Lobby and EWTN, so once in a great while, they do pronounce in favor of traditional Christian vulues.
The most important fact about ‘reparative therapy,’ also sometimes known as ‘conversion’ therapy, is that it is based on an understanding of homosexuality that has been rejected by all the major health and mental health professions. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 477,000 health and mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus there is no need for a ‘cure.
Homosexuality is not a mental or physical disorder.
It is merely a temptation for some.
Homosexual acts are a disordered chosen behavior.
And can never be approved.
What those associations really reject is Divine order and supernatural truth.
This ruling presents a danger to boys, as now fewer sodomites will receive the therapy they need. Rather, sodomites will continue to feed their perverted appetite for boys. See “Myth No. 8” below:
http://www.tinyurl.com/10SodomiteMyths
In one highly publicized case from the early 1970s, psychologist George Rekers treated a five-year-old boy named Kirk Murphy, who had exhibited stereotypically feminine behavior such as a preference for girls’ toys. Rekers instructed Murphy’s parents to reward him for exhibiting “masculine” behavior and to punish him (by ignoring or even spanking him) when he displayed “feminine” behavior. Rekers claimed this treatment would prevent the boy from becoming gay. Later, Rekers published an article citing his treatment of Murphy as a success story, which Rekers and other proponents of these practices continue to use to deceive other parents and entrap other clients struggling with the stigma and discrimination faced by LGBT people. In fact, however, Murphy was gay in adulthood, and struggled with the severe psychological distress caused by Rekers’s “treatments” throughout his life. Murphy attempted to take his own life when he was about 17, and died by suicide at the age of 38.
Thanks Lee, for pointing that out. However, you neglected to mention that NARTH cofounder Rekers most recent claim to fame: Being caught hiring a rent-boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Alan_Rekers
Rekers of course invented repairitive therapy. Much later in life he took a European vacation without his wife and hired a strapping young fellow from “rentboy.com.” to “handle the luggage” and, as it turned out, gave him nude massages too. Why is it that so many of these aledgedly straight men who are obsessed with male homosexuality turn out to be closet cases? Oh….my brother who has a bad back asked my sister-in-law before their last vacation if he could hire a lesbian from “rentgirl.com” to “handle the luggage” She said NO!
Living in Mortal sin does that to people – self centeredness, despair, self hatred, and nothing to live for. Satan will do it every time he can.
If the law can prevent gay conversion therapy, then it can prevent anti abortion counseling, or chastity programs, or pedophile attraction therapy. If there is no judgement and you have a right to pursuit of happiness who is to judge your happiness. The traditional Christian world is getting smaller and smaller.
These laws are needed to ensure that therapists who are licensed by the state are providing competent care and are not harming patients. Before 1973, many mental health organizations inaccurately considered same-sex attraction to be a mental illness. In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association removed “homosexuality” from its official list of mental disorders. For decades, the American Psychiatric Association has recognized that being lesbian, gay, or bisexual is not a mental illness and that trying to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity is ineffective and dangerous. Despite this consensus, some therapists continue to engage in these discredited and unsafe practices. These laws are especially needed to protect minors, who are almost always forced or coerced to undergo conversion therapy. These state-licensed practitioners frequently prey on well-intentioned parents and legal guardians who do not understand that they are putting their children at risk of serious harm.
These are the same laws that prevent you from being peddled cancer cures that are nothing more than tonics. If we can prevent people from selling sham cancer cures then surely “the Christian world is getting smaller and smaller”. Right?
Laws prohibiting conversion therapy are a permutation of laws in the Middle East and elsewhere prohibiting religious evangelization and attempts to convert non-Christians. Homosexual conversion therapy is itself a type of evangelization which is being outlawed here. Yes, the Christian world is getting smaller as Satan’s fronts advance. Repent before it is too late.
The statement by “Save California” is absurd on its face. First of all, this law does not prohibit counseling of youth after molestation. Second of all, molestation does not result in “gender confusion” as SC implies. Thirdly, being gay is not caused by molestation and so treatment for molestation will be ineffective at making gay kids straight, whether they were molested or not. Fourthly, most gay kids were never molested. Fifthly, being gay is not a state of confusion, it is a sexual orientation. Sixth, the law is not unconstitutional, according to the binding ruling of the appeals court which took up the Constitutionality of the law.
…” most gay kids were never molested. Fifthly, being gay is not a state of confusion, it is a sexual orientation.”
I beg to differ. I believe most gay kids were molested and gender identity confusion, a disordered sexual orientation which is contrary to the ‘natural law’ is a state of confusion.
Ronnie, you are free to believe what you want to believe, but you would be incorrect in those beliefs in this case. Most gay kids did not endure molestation, and most molested kids do not end up gay. Sorry you are so confused.
It is not me who is confused YFC. If you want to remain closed minded so be it. But whether you’re in denial about gays being gay as a result of molestation, it’s still morally wrong to engage in unnatural sexual preferences.
Ronnie- Never molested, but gay. Sorry about your little theory.
Sorry that was me at 4:44 pm
Ronnie …. I was never molested nor am I gender confused. I am a woman… and… “I enjoy being a girl.” Please start getting your information from actual gay people rather than the dark corners of the right wing internet.
How about physically abuse? But whether your unnatural sexual disorder came from abuse or not, which the majority did (you’re in the minority by the way) abnormal sexual preferences when acted upon are gravely depraved according to the Catechism of the Church.
Well stated, YFC.
If you are “gay”, you need to resist this temptation and pray for a supernatural grace and strength to take hold in your life the bondage of homosexuality is a great burden, giving in to this “pollution”, is gravely sinful and can lead to only one outcome…Hell. Those wanton degenerates, who indulge in this perversion will invariably answer …turn your back on this behavior and lifestyle…spurn it and turn to the Madonna, She will comfort and strengthen you and pray for you..
No doubt the Madonna will pray for gay people, as she so unfailingly does for every one of us. As for the rest of your comment….not so much.
People go to Hell for unrepentant Mortal Sins.
Homosexual Acts, Fornication, Adultery, and Pornography – are all Mortal Sins.
Do not be married to your mortal sins. Cast them away.
CG .. I’m curious … do we gay women get a pass? I know Michael will call me a misandrist for this, but why are so many of these anti-gay posts all about men? Women hold up half the world etc. etc.
I know of many heterosexual women who became lesbian because of an abusive marriage. Thank God they came to realize that was a result of their lesbianism.
It’s called “self-mastery” YFC……have you even tried? Every sinner must pray for self-mastery so that they can resist evil temptations, so they can be chaste and pure for Our Lord.
So now because of the ban on healing therapy for children, we expect to see a ban on therapy for pedophiles? Will the treatment they receive now, soon be oppressed because of the similar issues with the homosexual lifestyle and the damage it promotes? May God have mercy upon us!
No, of course not.
If any therapy works there is no danger of it being banned. Why would an elected official vote to ban an effective therapy? Where would the logic be in that? Instead, they are protecting parents and their kids from falling prey to scam artists who claim therapeutic value where none exists, indeed, where such therapies cause additional harm.
Most of the elected officials in CA are dumber than rocks, and vote for Intrinsic Evils all the time – so they can stay in power.
The 2014 CA state Democratic Platform supports: Abortion;
Euthanasia; Same sex marriage; taxpayers paying for sex change operations and lifetime hormones, etc.; (embryonic) stem cell research; and all taxpayers paying for contraception.
So true Anita….and the people who vote them in.
“…Why would an elected official vote to ban an effective therapy? Where would the logic be in that?”
The logic in that is very similar in nature to a ‘professed’ Catholic opting to promote mortal sin. Because it is popular and suits his personal agenda. In the case of an ‘elected’ official, his logic is based in garnering votes, not leading a people. Rather said official is giving the people what they want in order to maintain his standing as master facilitator. Panem et circenses!
There is a solution but the solution is being ignored. As the guiding leadership in the Church goes, the world goes and the court’s rulings go. Cardinal Dolan said that even he was taken aback or astounded that the young people in Spain wanted to actually kneel down on cobblestone streets to pray. How many of our bishops are still ignoring the solution for years of not guarding the Deposit of Faith? The terrible lack of proper catechesis, years of horrific sex abuse and scandal by those who were entrusted to guide souls closer to God…and the best that can be done in our local diocese is an embarrassing giant banner placed outside our churches that reads “Proud to Be A Catholic” Catholic actions in our saints and martyrs always spoke louder than butterfly banners and words. Of course, we should be joyful and treasure our faith and recognize the joy when it is taught and lived.
2 Chronicles Chapter 7: [14] ” And my people, upon whom my name is called, being converted, shall make supplication to me, and seek out my face, and do penance for their most wicked ways: then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sins and will heal their land.” Douay-Reims Catholic Bible
sup·pli·ca·tion
ˌsəpliˈkāSHən/
noun
the action of asking or begging for something earnestly or humbly.
“he fell to his knees in supplication”
continued
Many leading shepherds must not really believe in Our Lord’s promise or there would be a much different tone of humility. Where is the leadership example or the falling to the knees in supplication or the asking or humbly begging God? For example, our diocese does not even want Catholics to kneel down at the Agnus Dei so that the standing “community” may feel more important than making supplication to God. And then we wonder why unjust rulings are taking place. Each and every societal plaguing problem that we are currently being faced with is a result of this terrible lack of humility. Our first duty of social justice is the justice due to Almighty God and yet a paralysis of disoriented pride has many still wandering in the desert wondering why we are in the terrible state of immorality. Our Diocese of Orange Ca. is so confused that they actually printed huge banners that read, “Proud to be a Catholic”. Well, at this time in Church history that might be an apt expression for those who prefer pride-filled sounding sales banners over following Our Lord’s Perfect Advice and this is why we are in such a huge mess. A synonym for the word pride can also be seen as braggadocio. Those banners make Catholics look like morons or idiots who just don’t get it.
Once again……”Would Our Lord want us to publicly wave banners that pride-fully brag about just paying millions of dollars for the evil that was taking place right under his trusted shepherds noses? Where is the leadership example of humility and supplication that will heal our land?
“…Our first duty of social justice is the justice due to Almighty God and yet a paralysis of disoriented pride has many still wandering in the desert wondering why we are in the terrible state of immorality.”
Thank you, Catherine, for saying this for there is no justice without God’s justice.
Thank you Ann Malley! God bless you!
Amongst Homo-Anal Coprophiles the incidence of Molestation as a Child is the single biggest identifiable cause of acting out such Physically Harmful / Pathological Disease Spreading behaviors when older…
– Despite the pernicious myth (de-bunked amongst others by Tammy Bruce in her book “The Death of Right and Wrong”) and promoted by various and sundry Anonymous Homosex Trolls here – that sexual abuse as a Minor is a ‘coming of age’ ceremony.
– Hence the ongoing vectoring of ever newer treatment resistant strains of Aids / STD’s via such proud events as the recent ‘CDC Spread Fest’ in Sodom by the Sea, where they run rampant despite three decades of highly expensive tax subsidized ‘prevention’ scams.
The ‘issue’ addressed by the Demicrat Gaystapo Controlled Legislature ( a body itself unfit to pass gas) in their attempt to enforce Mandatory Pandering to such aberrant behaviors, is the Payment of Fees for programs of a ‘Professional’ Nature.
Unfortunately, as with Drug & Alcohol recovery programs, not all are equally good at helping heal the wounds leading to such further self harming behaviors.
“No LGBTQ kid should ever have to endure what I did,” said Deb Cuny, 34, who went through the practice as a teenager and spent years being prayed over and even exorcised in an attempt to keep her family intact and fulfill her dream of becoming a minister. “No child should ever be told that they are broken, pressured into being cleansed of evil that doesn’t exist, or forced to choose between being honest about who they are and being loved. I absolutely believe the #BornPerfect campaign is going to save lives and put a long overdue end to conversion therapy.” – See more at: https://www.sdgln.com/news/2014/06/24/national-campaign-seeks-protect-lgbt-kids-dangers-conversion-therapy#sthash.fyiqsnC9.dpuf
McDermott lied about this weekend’s Dyke march convening, (saying it happened on the steps of Mission Dolores Church, when he very well knows that it happened two blocks away). Judges tell juries that if you find that a person has lied in one element of their testimony, you may infer that he has lied in other elements of their testimony. So if you are even able to decode what he wrote above, you should feel perfectly free to assume it to be a lie, according to rules of evidence that he, as an attorney, knows quite well.
Unfortunately, the big tent umbrella of ‘Conversion’ programs are as varied and effective as with Drug & Alcohol recovery programs.
Not all are equally good at helping heal the wounds leading to such further self harming behaviors (Whether it be joining in the Pathological ‘Conga Line of Buggery’ Or – Like the failure of Chastity Bono’s surgical mutilation and steroid abuse to help her recover – after being Raped by an Older Dyke while a young Girl) .
And Yes – as with the stock market or legislative government or virtually any human endeavor, Some programs may well be scams in themselves – designed to promise one thing, while simply delivering a paycheck to the operator and little else.,
It is also SSADLY true that Not All ‘rehabs’ are successful, even after repeat efforts – but whether abuse of Booze or Cigarettes (both legal) – the only time one must succeed in quitting a bad habit, is the last time they try. Of course it helps if they do so before the physical consequences become irreversible, as with so many treatment resistant STDs or Surgical Mutilation.
Still – Some Rehabs Do Work, even if it takes a couple of tries. Thus the Answer is obvious – Developing Not for Profit Counseling Programs, whose operators are funded by grants / Churches – who do Not Charge for Help, and thus cannot be identified or trashed as a ‘Business’ by the Gaystapo and their legislative stooges.
Almost all conversion therapists are either scam artists and/or predators themselves. In the end minors will be protected from these therapist sickos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DvycRIJS4c
your crazy.
correction: you are in error. mea culpa.
“By the time men are finally delivered from disease and decay—all pasterized, their genes counted and rearranged, fitted with new replaceable plastic organs,able to eat, copulate, and perform other physical functions innocuously and hygienically as and when desired—they will all be mad, and the world one huge psychiatric ward.”
Malcolm Muggeridge 1903 – 1990
This is the world today, a giant madhouse and sadly California leads the way.
Michael M, Ryan Kendall was a teenager when he went through conversion therapy — an experience that altered his life, resulting in him running away from his family’s Colorado home and legally separating himself from his parents so he would no longer have to endure hurtful and traumatic visits with his therapist. The ordeal would cost Kendall his family and more than a decade of his life in which he sank into depression and substance abuse. “By 16, I had lost everything,” said Kendall, now 31, and a recent graduate of Columbia University with plans on attending law school. “My family and my faith had rejected me, and the damaging messages of conversion therapy, coupled with this rejection, drove me to the brink of suicide. I am lucky that I survived, but I will never be able to recover the years I lost to feeling worthless and suicidal because a therapist convinced my family that being gay is a mental illness and that who I am is shameful and wrong. These practices are child abuse, pure and simple.”
All the pro-homosexual propaganda against gay conversion therapy here is actually proof that it does work. And that’s why they are so afraid of this therapy. Afraid to change and afraid to confron their sins…
The sodomite agenda is incremental by design, one step at a time, until they attain their ultimate goal of being legally able to force sodomy on others, especially boys. These vile filthy minions of Satan are working in lockstep with the baby butchers against life and God. As dutiful servants of that greatest of deceivers, many of these sodomites wrap themselves in the cloak of Catholicism, to lead the faithful astray to the bowels of hell.
juergensen – THe LGBT movement is indeed incremental by design, because our attempts in the seventies to claim a part of the civil rights movement failed. So if you want to end the incrementalism that the LGBT movement has adopted, and instead give us full civil rights, trust me, I’m down with that. Will you support full civil rights now, rather than incrementalism which leads to who knows what?
Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Without any reputable evidence, the entertainment culture, uneducated media, and sexual activists have seduced today’s teenagers, in particular, to believe that people are born homosexual.
However, science has found no biological basis for homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuality.
Study after study has found the “LGBT” lifestyle to be unhealthy, with the highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases, and higher cancer rates and earlier deaths.
While all people are worthy and valuable, the fact is people are not “born this way,” as a popular song insists.
Why does it matter that people are not born ‘gay’?
The fact that people are not born homosexual matters because the entire fiber of our society is impacted — for good or for ill. We cannot change society’s laws and make new laws based on a lie. That hurts everyone.
There is no “gay gene” — so homosexuality is not biologically based. The only human genders are male (if you inherited a “Y” chromosome from your father) and female (if you did not inherit a “Y” chromosome from him) — so homosexuality is not a new “gender.”
Not being born “gay” means this is not a “civil rights” issue.
People inherit unchangeable characteristics like their race and ethnicity, but homosexuality is not inherited.
Folks should ask McDermott to provide a smidgeon of evidence for his claims. Here is some of the evidence he is wrong: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041OT9SA/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
However, we must always keep in mind that McDermott lied about the Dyke March gathering on the steps of Mission Dolores Church. He himself knew that it gathered at mission high school, two blocks away. If he lied about one thing, a judge will tell jurors, you may presume he has lied about other things.
McDermott, the only thing anyone needs to know about where you are coming is done with four words. Advocate for Scott Lively.
JESUS said that few (not many) will get to Heaven for eternity.
Lk 13:23-28; Mt 7:13-14.
Many people love their mortal sins more than they love God.
Many of the posts here prove this.
Jesus help me always to do Your will, not my will.
You got that right Beth. Its a tragedy. They indulge in their sins but worst is when they scandalize the little children and help them grow/live in their confusion. These new “gods” use the laws to also control other people’s children. The government says you are free to have children but if they grow up confused, then they are no longer your children, they are now part of a protected sexual class, they are not allowed to reason close to a conscience honoring God but they are to honor the “gay” gods of this society and it’s theologies!
But Like I said before, where there is a will, there is a way, leave California and save your children, do not hand them over to these anti-Christian Bigots!
Your the one that is confused. When is the Catholic Church ever going to stop hurting the children that is in its charge.
Why doesn’t this Bishop condemn the Obama Administration for the exporting of abortion, and same sex marriage by – – – Obama’s WITHHOLDING foreign aid to the POOR in Countries that do not agree with his positions in favor of the murder of the most innocent, and homosexual acts ?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/obama-administration-39blackmails39-developing-countries-into-adopting-39se
and
https://aclj.org/abortion/obama-violates-law-forcing-abortion-rights-on-kenya
Where are the US Bishops on this ? Too busy ignoring intrinsic evils with furthering their own political goals?
How do you know that I am a man? “Gays are forbidden to seek out romantic association’s with MEN of the same sex!”. How about MEN of the opposite sex?
On Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’ – After the Revolution making All Animals Equal, the puppies are taken away for ‘special training’ – and return as vicious attack dogs used to keep the rest in line, because Some Animals are More Equal than Others. As Dr. Anthony Daniels (writing as Theodore Dalrymple) said of such Gaystapo Propaganda tactics:
“The purpose – was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.
To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed.
A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. “
Vancouver Schools’ New LGBTTQ+ Policy Includes Gender-Free Pronouns Xe, Xem and Xyr | CNS News
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/vancouver-schools-new-lgbttq-policy-includes-gender-free-pronouns-xe-xem
McD translation: I believe in the genocide of all gays as does my hero Scott Lively.
Anonymous Alinskyite Trolls Lie simply to keep in Practice- and the self gratification that comes from their spreading such a “Frothy Mix’ of Hate in place of fact based debate.
The Link between Homo-Anal Coprophile Pederast warrior kults (From the Spartans to the Hom-Nazi Reich to Afghanistan and beyond) is Never Disputed on a Factual Basis…
But then Lies in place of the truth (and those who speak it) are so much more comforting to the Alinskyite Trolls – who remain so craven as to hide their identities underneath ‘anonymous’ rocks – lest they be exposed along with the hate they preach as if to teach – Not.
For those who actually want to know what sort of ugly facts are being covered up by this lame mau mau pogrom – SEE
The Strange, Strange Story of Gay Fascists.- by Johann Hari.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697.html
The lost boys of Afghanistan by: JOEL BRINKLEY.
https://www.startribune.com/opinion/101505674.html
McDermott just continues to lie, as he did very clearly by repeating over and over again that the Dyke march began on the steps of Mission Dolores Church, when in facet they met two plus blocks away, and he knew the truth but chose to put out a lie. Since he intentionally lied about that aspect of his presentation, you may assume he lies about other things he says. So when he offers you the ridiculous notion that there are hourdes of gay fascists running around (gosh – I thought we were all Obama communists!), you know he is not to be believed.
McDermott recomended reading: Johann Hari has declared his sympathy with the environmental movement, republicanism, and drug legalisation. He is gay and a self-declared secularist and atheist. In September 2011 Johann Hari announced that, though he stood by the articles which won the Orwell Prize in 2008, he would be returning it as an act of contrition for the errors he had made elsewhere. The return of the plaque by courier was confirmed by the Council of the Orwell Prize. Later the Council confirmed that the Orwell Prize would have been withdrawn had Hari not returned it, because after reviewing one particular article, ‘How multiculturalism is betraying women’, “The Council concluded that the article contained inaccuracies and conflated different parts of someone else’s story (specifically, a report in Der Spiegel). The Council ruled that the substantial use of unattributed and unacknowledged material did not meet the standards expected of Orwell Prize-winning journalism”. The council also disclosed that Hari had not returned the prize money he received of £2,000. There is much more….
Michael McDermott, Dogs – The dogs represent the military/police. In the beginning of the book, they voted against accepting the rats & rabbits as ‘comrades’. Shortly after the revolution, several ‘pups’ are stolen from their mothers. Later in the book, these pups (now fully grown – and fully trained) protect Napoleon from a second potential revolution, and help to enforce his decrees. Jessie, Bluebell, Pincher – The only three dogs that are mentioned by name. They do not have a very active role in the novel. All three are mentioned as being present at old major’s meeting, but Pincher is never mentioned again (except in the ‘epilogue’, when it is mentioned that all three dogs are dead) – Jesse and Bluebell are the mothers of the ‘pups’ which serve as Napoleon’s bodyguards (and I assume Pincher is the father). Jesse and Bluebell also participate in the ‘Battle of the Windmill’.
Michael McDermott, Dr. Anthony Daniels is an atheist, but has criticised anti-theism and says that “to regret religion is to regret our civilisation and its monuments, its achievements, and its legacy”.Raised in a non-religious Jewish home, he began doubting the existence of a God at age nine.
Indeed – Dr. Anthony Daniels claims no Religion – although he seems much more Agnostic than Atheistic in his writings, and even Catholic Saints have had their doubts from time to time – which some describe as part of their Faith Journey.
However, this does not detract from Daniel’s insights as an observer of modern Political Thought Policing and Totalitarianism in its various guises.
When ‘We’ of Faith must deal with a world that does not share such (or much) of said Faith; understanding their ‘Dominant Paradigm’ (now enshrined in ‘buzz word’ bingo) requires more than just wishful hope that others will see things in the light ‘We’ share via our own ‘mantras’ (inter & intra Religions schisms notwithstanding)…
– but rather requires attempting to comprehend – How They Comprehend – as a foundation for communication.
Daniels – using his stuffy pseudonym ‘Theodore Dalrymple’, is one of the most insightful authors of his age, and does not require any abandonment of Faith (which he does not denigrate) in order to expand our Understanding of his explanations & insights, or make them useful to our own aspirations.
Note the Alinskyite Focus on Personal Ad-Hominem attacks by the Homosex Trolls here – some of whom I have told to Cease Addressing Me – Unless they are willing to ‘come out’ from Hiding behind Anonymity and not only identify themselves, but the affiliations that keep them mono-manically hounding a message board / Faith – they otherwise hate.
Facts are not just denigrated, but those who recite them are ripped 7 ways to sunday – not for the authors independent corroboration of what is widely known, but for daring to even mention such Facts exist.
For Example – if two people with opposing politics can agree that it is raining out – then it probably is at least somewhat damp. Such is the case with Pastor Lively and Journalist Hari – they certainly do not care for each other, but have Admitted the same Facts as pointed out by many others before them (Tuchman, Shrier, Manchester, Machtan…) – and thus the Factual Content of their identification of Homo-Anal Coprophile Behaviors as foundational to genocidal fascist cults throughout the ages – remains valid, even if one dislikes the author.
What makes you actually think that anyone could stomach the idea of identifying anything with you. You are not even relevant when it comes to the nonsense and lies you put out. Pastor lively, there’s a real man of Jesus Christ for you. He ( Lively) showed the way to push for the “KILL THE GAY BILL” in Uganda. I’m sure he was filled him with the Holy Spirit to try and make that one happen. Alas, it did not happen. What a horrible set back for you and the wonderful great Christian Pastor. I feel so sorry for you both. Instead gays only get life in prison if they don’t end up dead before they even get there. You and the Great Christian pastor, Scott Lively deserve each other as you are both two peas in a pod. Good luck with your Idea that Jesus Christ is with you and The great Pastor Lively on your crusade for the genocide of Gays across the world. You are a real piece of work to say the least.
McDermott, U.S. District Court Judge Michael A. Ponsor set a deadline late last year for lawyers to exchange discovery but put off deadlines to file final motions and disclose information about witnesses until next year. The next pretrial hearing is set for May 6, 2015. Scott Lively was in 2012 sued by Sexual Minorities Uganda. He is accused of fanning anti-gay flames in Uganda during an address to parliament members in 2009. The complaint alleges Lively encouraged government-backed acts of violence against gays as a result of his rhetoric.
Do y’all remember somewhere around middle school or junior high when we’d have fight’s with our friends and then we’d say “don’t speak to me”, then we’d go through the silly charade of transmitting third party messages to one another? That is what McDermott advocates here when he demands that some of us “Cease Addressing Me”. At first, it appears to be a royal command that he somehow feels empowered to make, as though to Address Him is somehow a privilege to be earned. But really, it is much more juvenile than that: When one strikes a chord with someone, in this case, his perpetuation of proveable lies about the location of the Dyke March (opposition to which has been his raison d’etre for over a decade), one tries to use the juvenile shunning technique. Grow up people.
JONAH – http://www.Jonahweb.org – is a Jewish organization that seeks to help those caught up in the Frothy Mixer nightmare ‘Conga Line of Buggery” and its allied Hate / Mutilate Pogromers – albeit from a Jewish as opposed to Christian Viewpoint.
Hence – they too are attacked and vilified by the Homosex Harpies; who are at least equal opportunity haters about it.
However – JONAH has developed quite a data base of its own, and thus the attacks (as with others targeted) are mostly superficial – as befits the Alinsxkyite Troll type of ‘engagement’ scams.
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JONAH and the Wail of Anti-Therapy Radicals
With its credibility drying up, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is determined to cement its status as the homosexual movement’s greatest ally. Desperate to regain its status in the civil rights debate, the anti-Christian group is following the money to the gay community, where it hopes the partnership will help SPLC regain some of the legitimacy it lost bullying mainstream conservatives.
Their latest attempt to claw their way back into the spotlight is a lawsuit aimed at destroying the ex-gay movement.
Almost two years ago, SPLC announced it was suing a Jewish organization called JONAH (Jews Offering New Alternatives of Healing) for consumer fraud. They claim the therapy, which is designed to bring homosexuals out of bondage and into healthy behavior, failed…
The SPLC says the essential premise of conversion therapy, sometimes also called “reparative” or “ex-gay” therapy – that it will “convert” a gay person into a straight person – has no basis in scientific fact. Such therapy has long been discredited by mainstream mental health and medical professional organizations, including the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association, according to the law center.
McDermott, …………n the lawsuit, Ferguson said he participated in one session in which clients took turns trying to break past a human chain to wrest away two oranges, which were used to represent testicles, from another individual – all the while being taunted with statements such as “you’re such a fag, homo, queer boy.” “They play blindly with deep emotions and create an immense amount of self-doubt for the client,” Ferguson was quoted as saying in a press release from the SPLC. “They seize on your personal vulnerability, and tell you that being gay is synonymous with being less of a man. They further misrepresent themselves as having the key to your new orientation.” Unger said his counselor advised him to spend more time at the gym as well as to get naked with his father at bathhouses to “get in touch with his masculinity.” “These counselors are skilled at manipulating you into believing just about anything,” said Unger. “During my time with JONAH, they told me constantly that my mom had made me gay. I was so convinced that I refused to have any contact with her for several months, which caused a great deal of damage to our relationship.”
McDermott,….criticism directed towards JONAH has come from within the religious community, as well; when the lawsuit was filed, the Rabbinical Council of America (one of the most influential Orthodox Jewish organizations in the country) immediately distanced itself from JONAH, reaffirming that, based on the current scientific evidence, they did not endorse gay conversion therapy.
McDermott, In 2012, psychologist Robert Spitzer—one of the leaders of the successful push in the 1970s for the American Psychiatric Association to declassify homosexuality as a disease—retracted a controversial study, published in 2003, often cited by the ex-gay community that had concluded some “highly motivated” individuals could change their sexual orientation. Spitzer wrote an apology to LGBT people who “wasted time and energy” on reparative therapy.
McDermott, The Superior Court of New Jersey rejected JONAH’s motion to dismiss in the summer of 2013; Sam Wolfe, SPLC senior staff attorney, expects the case to go to trial in early 2014. Wolfe also notes that since the lawsuit got under way, a number of other individuals have approached SPLC with potential cases of their own. Happy homophob harpies to you and the great Christian Pastor Lively on your hate crime crusade of the worlds Gay community. You do of course know that you live in a country that has laws against killing Gays?They are called HATE CRIMES.