The following comes from an August 23 story by Capitol Alert.
Debate over abortion-related legislation took a combative turn in the Assembly today when a Pomona Democrat blasted male ignorance of women’s bodies, then defied house floor leaders who asked her to stop.
Assemblywoman Norma Torres‘ outburst ended nearly an hour of fierce debate over Senate Bill 623 to continue a pilot project in which physician assistants, nurse practitioners and nurse midwives provide first-trimester aspiration abortions.
The measure ultimately passed, 46-24, despite Republican opposition.
Torres began her floor speech by noting the words of Todd Akin – though not mentioning his name. The U.S. Senate candidate from Missouri sparked a national furor last week by saying that a “legitimate rape” doesn’t usually cause pregnancy because women’s bodies have a way to “shut that whole thing down.”
Torres said that for a hundred years, perhaps 200 years, “women have been under attack – attack of the ignorant, attack of our male counterparts that cannot understand our bodies.”
House Majority Floor Leader Charles Calderon, also a Democrat, rose on the Assembly floor to say that history can be discussed at another time but that Torres should “stick to the issues presented in the bill.”
She bristled.
“The history of women’s suffrage is very appropriate to this bill, and I take offense at any man who dares to stand up and shut me down,” Torres responded. “As a woman, I refuse to be shut down.”
Calderon countered that Assembly rules apply to all members.
“As a woman, I will not be shut down,” Torres replied.
“Women continue to be oppressed by the ignorance that our bodies can simply get rid of something a male has inserted inside of us that we did not want, forcibly.”
Torres then took a verbal slap at colleagues who seemed shocked by the exchange and by her angry comments.
“Don’t ‘Aw,”” she said. “Don’t ‘aw’ at my comments. Really? You’re shocked? I’m shocked that we’re having this discussion on the floor. And as a woman, I’m offended by the discussion on the floor.”
Republican Assemblyman Curt Hagman, a floor leader for the GOP caucus, grabbed his microphone to say that rules apply to all speakers and that SB 623 has nothing to do with whether women have a legal right to abortion.
“Please stick to the merits of the case,” he said.
Torres defied him, too.
“I refuse as a women to be shut down by you or any other man in this Assembly,” she said.
After urging a yes vote on SB 623, Torres then sat down.
SB 623 would provide a two-year extension for a program, launched in 2007, that has provided about 8,000 first-trimester aspiration abortions by trained nurse practitioners, physicians assistants and certified nurse midwives.
The program involves the University of California San Francisco, Kaiser Permanente of Northern California, and Planned Parenthood affiliates in four regions – Shasta Pacific, Mar Monte, Los Angeles and Pacific Southwest.
Supporters of 623 painted it as much-needed legislation to ensure access to legal abortions. Opponents criticized the bill as a morally inept threat to the lives of unborn babies.
SB 623 now goes to the Senate for final action.
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Assembleywoman Torres’ angry rant about Sen. Todd Akin was disruptive and not pertinent to the discussion of SB 623. Abortion is the killing of a baby, and it appears they want to make it as easy and accessible as possible, at any cost. If they don’t mind killing babies, they should still think about the health of the mother. An aspiration abortion is an invasive surgical procedure and should not be done by anyone other than a licensed physician, and in, or near, a hospital, in case of hemorrhage or other unforeseen complication. How many men would want their reproductive organs treated by anyone other than a licensed physician? The pro-abortion people talk about caring for women, but this is a step backward.
She is nothing more than a Storm Trooper. Laws and rules do not apply to the “righteous” (that is, women, on all issues involving “a woman’s body”). This is how it goes in CA, where a “Republic” representative form of government is not really the operative form of State decision-making. Compare this to Wisconsin, where union jackboots, and cowardly Democrats who fled the State rather than be forced to vote, failed to hold the day on who actually runs the State (although it was close). In CA, particularly when touching on the sacred issue of abortion rights, no one except liberal women, the blood industry of abortion providers — lead by Planned Parenthood — and their lapdog legislative enablers, is supposed to even be able to debate or vote on “life” issues. And, of course, there are the Catholic bishops, probably planning another conference, or writing yet another dense, unreadable paper on something like opposition to abortion. No, it cannot be too tough, like calling out Catholic legislators by name and to their face. No, it cannot be going on national TV and all media to carefully tell the people of CA what is at stake here and why it should not be the policy of their respective State governments. No, it certainly cannot be driving a wedge into the comfy club with President Obama and his “dead souls” Democratic pals, all doing what they can to assist Planned Parenthood and all abortionists to make their fortunes on the death of the defenseless. This is beyond corruption.
OK, so – she hates men. That has nothing to do with whether only a doctor should be doing a surgical procedure. Whether she understands what complications are possible or not, she doesn’t seem to care anyway. If the subject is abortion, she wants it virtually unrestricted at all times. She’s wrong, no matter her passion level. But California being the loony-bin it is, this will probably pass.
The people of Taxifornia made it the way it is by giving the Democrats total control.
She will find out how wrong she is, pray that it is not after her death when it is TOO LATE!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Torres is a typical female California legislator – pro feminist to the hilt. Planned Parenthood loves her and give her a 100% “Pro-Choice” rating.
Exactly. Is not Ms Torres’s gaffe at least as big as that of Mr. Akin? But such is the sorry state of the California legislature that she gets a pass.
Democrats just love their abortions don’t they?! They love them so much that not even doctors are required to perform them here in California! Could it be due to the fact that once doctors actually go through the intense rigorous process of becoming doctors, most all prefer to save lives rather than end them?! Just think of how much greater Planned Parenthood’s profits will be now that they don’t have to shell out for the salary of a doctor!!! Good grief, is this not the most insane of all insane laws past regarding medical practices? What other surgical procedure can be performed by someone who is not a doctor?! I know nurse practitioners are highly skilled and some can perform many things a doctor could, but surgery?! No!! This Culture of Death has also become the Culture of Nonsense run amok! God Save Us!!!
In order for God to save us, we have to REPENT!
Obama is considered a shoo in in Taxifornia, largely because of the hispanic vote. My mother was from Chihuaha, and I still have relatives in Mexico, so to write this is painful for me. VIVA CRISTO REY!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
The pro-aborts always try to claim the moral high ground. That’s especially so when they are shilling for heinous measures. And heinous is the word for this bill that Norma Torres and her fellow Demon-rats are pushing, which will endanger women by letting non-physicians abort babies. The pro-aborts are also bald-faced liars; here they are, contradicting their longtime prating about “safe and legal” (which isn’t safe anyway) baby-killing by “physicians” rather than in “back alleys.” What’s their propaganda going to be now — “Abortion is a matter between a woman and her nurse practitioner?” Norma Torres is a big phony, and shame on Jerry “Governor Moonbeam” Brown if the bill passes and he signs it.
Torres should know that “sufferage” was pro-life, not pro-abortion, and women deserve better than that. The women of her district should stand up and demand that she sit down, and shut her mouth, because she is ignorant of true women’s sufferage. That “ignorance” card can swing both ways, and it looks like it has with her.
Life Lady,
But she has been elected by the people!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
This feminist movement is sickening! What an arrogant, self serving spectacle she and her ‘sisters’ are. We as women have lost more in dignity than we have gained in so called reproductive rights. Isn’t it marvelous to be fighting for the privilege to kill your own child and be so strident and proud about.
Not OK to be raped, but OK to murder? As my grandmother used to say, ” I pity em, I really pity em.” Meaning of course Ms. Torres. Divine Mercy guide us always, help us to help others come to TRUTH. I must say also, Mr. Akin did make some stupid statements.
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A very angry and bitter woman who most likely hates being female and having children, very sad, only prayer can change people like her. She should not be hated but only have pitty for her.
Maybe only prayer can change her but that doesn’t mean society should have to indulge her. That’s what websites like this are about – education. Through publicity hopefully societal awareness can eventually bring about the removal of her and her ilk from the public sphere.
She might not realize that abortion leads to breast cancer, but she might soon find out if she has had one or several abortions. Hopefully, for the sake of other women, she will not still be in denial when she gets it, and its not too late. Also, the birthcontrol pill is a carcinogen (causes breast and other cancers). The said part is that she is taking other guillible women down with her, and there are many selfish men out there ready and willing to encourage her all in the name of “women’s rights”.
Independents, Republicans, Libertarians, in short, any non-Democrat cannot afford to make gaffs like this. We need to realize that all of the mainstream media are engaged in a concerted effort to get Obama reelected. Candidate Todd Akin needs to step aside and let a competent candidate run for this seat.
I have been present at many conferences where highly qualified Gynecologist such as my late friend Dr. Bernard Nathanson said the same thing only they used different words.
The big difference is the stupid “leaders” of the stupid Party who can’t wait to run from a fight!
I am a former Officer of that stupid Party and I spent most of my time fighting Republicrats, especially “Catholic” ones.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
There is no excuse for rudeness by any member of the Legislature druing floor debate. If she won’t behave, that’s what the Sgt at Arms is for, ejecting her…..but that would have made her a martyr.
“As a woman, I will not be shut down,” Torres replied.
good heavens – she used this phrase so many times, it bogglesthe mind.
it’s not as if the people present couldn’t TELL she was a woman. what[‘s next?
“as a latina, i will not speak latin?”
If she does not repent, she will probably have what appears in some way a male constantly shutting her down for all Eternity!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
That is the last woman you want mothering your children. They would never see the light of day. They would be flashed down ze toilet
Another man hating, baby killing woman democrat
See ” Endowment for Human Development ” – a non-religious site on the internet.
Abortion is the biggest HUMAN and CIVIL RIGHTS violation that our Country has ever seen – the murder of approx 1 million innocent human babies each year, about 39,000,000 babies in the USA since 1973.
Let us remember that the Democrats have had a pro-abortion statement in their National Platform for many years.
This year they intend to add the promotion of sodomy through gay-marriage.
Abortion is Murder for convenience.
ANNE, the number of surgical abortions that we know about is almost 56 million since Roe was handed down. That does not count the morning after pill, plan B, RU 486 or abortifacient birth control pills.
Abortion is murder for convenience.
Over 39,000,000 innocents murdered just in the USA since 1973.
HUMAN Rights and CIVIL RIGHTS violations – Amen.
Sorry the bill passed.
Wow if only she would show the same convictions on defending the unborn. This is a disgrace to all woman, her actions noted here on this article. I wonder if she was a rape victim. May God have mercy and help her.
Abeca, she has to ask for that mercy in repentance!
I have known several female abortion Doctors who have repented and they are sweetheats now, we must pray for her repentance!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Yes you are correct Mr. Fisher
When a woman gets raped, or a child….it is truly a tragedy. When a pregnancy comes due to such violations, then this is when there needs to be resources to give the woman courage to do right by the innocent life, to find healing, love and support But Abortion should never be an option. I think that if a woman gets the right support, she will lovingly choose life but one must understand that being raped is truly horrific. We ought to have tougher laws to punish those who rape! Not only did the rapist hurt and violated another human being, an innocent life could be caught in the middle of such heinous crime. Hopefully abortion won’t be chosen.
Abeca, lifesitenews has an excellent article on babies of rape. Becoming Catholic has turned my whole world upside down! Now when I send my family articles about how we should never punish the baby of a rape they send back negative responses, but I can remember being in total agreement with them. The article had an ultrasound picture of two little babies in the womb, and the question was “Which baby is the child of a rape?” Pretty powerful! I thank God everyday for leading me home to the Catholic Church. That is why we must defend her always from lies and distortion of teachings, because it is our church that is the truth! Actually, there are two sites..the Canadian one is lifesitenews and the other is just lifenews. Both are very good.
Dana,
Did you know that St. Martin de Pores was a child of the rape of a Spanish nobleman. Thank God he was not aborted. There are other examples as well.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Dana oh yes I read lifesitenews. You are correct in all that you are saying. I recall watching a movie, it was in Spanish, about a woman who was brutally raped. She survived the violent act, later she found out she was pregnant. She hated her rapist but felt compassion for the innocent little life growing inside her. She decided to give birth to the child, He was a boy, she was about to give him up for adoption but when she saw him, she felt anger but then when the baby cried, her heart was softened, she kept him and she raised him. He grew up to be kind and loving, rebellious as a teen as well but when he grew out of it, when he discovered the truth on how he came to be, he loved him mum so much…well long story short, he took care of his mother, provided all she needed till her death. She never remarried.
correction I meant to say she never married….she was a single mum, raised the boy on her own and he grew up to appreciate her and took care of her till her elderly age, till her death.
That sounds like a really good film! Is it on video?
Thanks for sharing, Kenneth! I didn’t know that!
Dana I don’t remember the name of the film, it was in Spanish though. .
No one wants to ‘shut you down’,Miz Terrez, for that would be rather unkind and probably illegal. I do wish you would shut up, however, as you are making us women everywhere look and sound ignorant and ridiculous as you’ve taken it upon yourself to speak for the rest of us, which is as ludicrous as it is presumptuous.
Uh, that would be Torres. I was thinking that but spelling it other wise. But the same sentiments expressed still apply, Ms Torres. Isn’t that akin to torrid? hmmm.
I think it means a lot of bull.
haha. Thanks for the clarification, JLS!
It’s interesting how the human mind reasons….we have groups of people fighting hard to end the death penalty, they have more compassion for the criminal, but many of these same individuals do not put in the same efforts to end abortion… many think it is okay to pronounce a death sentence on the unborn in rape situations all while they are most lenient on rapist. I do feel compassion/pity for this woman, Mr Torres. Not everyone was raised with the same logic or reasoning of the heart to understand that two wrongs don’t make a right……in rape situation there are several victims….not only the one who was violated but also the innocent life that may have been produced,,, and the families of the victims…SIN is sin…it hurts everyone! That is why abortion is never a true solution!
The rapist commits a heinous crime! It violates the dignity of another human being. The rapist not only committed an immoral sin but also may have condemned another innocent life to death. His own offspring, the child pays with it’s life for the crimes of their father. one man’s sins imposed upon another…..potentially producing harmful results…..the outcome is a chain reaction..extending spiritually throughout generation to generation. It will take a faithful one in Christ, to stop that chain reaction, that cancer of curse within that bloodline.
Maybe Ms. Torres should be reminded that after the 21st day from conception the fetus has a ” heartbeat “, therefore is alive. I am truly sorry that she was raped and now hates all men, but what has that got to do with killing a living human being that has a heart beat ? I guess California could cares less that they are killing an innocent human being that caused no one any harm…….they are the most arrogant and selfish individuals on the planet………Congrats to all the California lawmakers that have made it legal to kill innocent……..isn’t it funny,, in Ca. eat organic, do what you want, but kill an innocent child……hmmmmmmmmmm
They need the others to be able to perform the abortions since fewer and fewer doctors will do it.
Many comments here about women who have abortions are prone to cancer and other physical problems. That may be true but the real concern is their soul and the life of the child they kill. I don’t think there is a more heinous crime than a mother killing her own child. Our Church and our religious leaders need to be concerned with morality and saving souls.
So many Catholics support the democrats because of “social justice” issues when our soul is much more important than feeding our belly and getting free cell phones.
Many abortion promoters are fully aware that abortion tortures and kills a human being … and they see it as necessary. Or else it simply does not matter to them.
All the time you hear some people clamoring and demanding respect. But who can respect people who vote for such goofs?