The following comes from a Jan. 31 story on the website of Catholic News Agency.
The Vatican has confirmed the participation of 48 delegates chosen by bishops’ conferences to take part in this year’s Synod on the Family.
Included on the list are all those elected by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Archbishop Jose Gomez of Los Angeles, the US’s largest archdiocese, and Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia, where the upcoming World Meeting of Families will be held, will be among those taking part in October’s gathering, according to the Vatican document.
Other US delegates included are Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Louisville and Cardinal Daniel DiNardo of Galveston-Houston, USCCB president and secretary, respectively.
Released Jan. 31, this is the first of several documents listing the delegates elected by the various bishops’ conferences around the world who have been approved by the Vatican.
Delegates listed in the announcement included 7 from Africa; 3 from Asia; 3 from Oceana; 17 from Europe; and 10 from Central and South America.
Not every bishops’ conference was represented in Saturday’s list, as some still need to hold their general assemblies where they will select their candidates and substitutes before sending the names to the Vatican for approval. These subsequent ratifications will be announced at a later time.
Around 190 prelates worldwide participated in the 2014 Synod on the Family.
The names of other participants, such as auditors, experts and papal nominees, will also released at a later date in the lead up to the Synod on the Family.
This year’s Synod on the Family, to be held on Oct. 4-25, will be the second and larger of two such gatherings to take place in the course of a year. Like its 2014 precursor, the focus of the 2015 Synod of Bishops will be the family, this time with the theme: “The vocation and mission of the family in the church and the modern world.”
The list also confirmed the participation of alternates, Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago, and Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco, head of the USCCB’s defense and promotion of marriage subcommittee.
A preparatory document for the Synod on the Family, formally known as the Lineamenta, was sent to bishops’ conference in Dec. 2014.
The list of all 48 elected delegates is included below:
A F R I C A Burundi Delegate: Bishop Gervais BASHIMIYUBUSA, Bishop of Ngozi, president of the bishops’ conference. Alternate: Bishop Joachim NTAHONDEREYE, Bishop Muyinga. Ethiopia and Eritrea Delegate: Bishop Tsegaye Keneni DERERA, Apostolic Vicar of Soddo, titular bishop of Maximiana of Byzacena. Alternate: Bishop Markos GEBREMEDHIN, C.M., Titular bishop of Gummi in Proconsolari, Apostolic Vicar of JimmaBonga (Ethiopia). Ghana Delegate: Archbishop of Gabriel Charles PALMERBUCKLE, Archbishop of Accra. Alternate: Bishop Anthony Kwami ADANUTY, bishop of KetaAkatsi. Kenya Delegate: Cardinal John NJUE, Archbishop of Nairobi, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Bishop James Maria WAINAINA KUNGU, bishop of Muranga. Alternate: Bishop Emanuel BARBARA, O.F.M. Cap., bishop of Malindi. Madagascar Delegate: Archbishop Désiré TSARAHAZANA, bishop di Toamasina, president of the bishops’ conference. Alternate: Jean de Dieu RAOELISON, titular bishop of Corniculana, auxiliary of Antananarivo. Rwanda Delegate: Bishop Antoine KAMBANDA, bishop of Kibungo. Alternate: Bishop Smaragde MBONYINTEGE, bishop of Kabgayi, president of the bishops’ conference. THE AMERICAS Argentina Delegate: Bishop Pedro María LAXAGUE, titular bishop of Castra s\Severiana, and auxiliary of Bahía Blanca. Delegate: Archbishop José María ARANCEDO, Archbishop of Santa Fe de la Vera Cruz, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Cardinal Mario Aurelio POLI, archbishop of Buenos Aires. Alternate: Archbishop Andrés STANOVNIK, O.F.M. Cap., Archbishop of Corrientes. Alternate: Héctor Rubén AGUER, Archbishop of La Plata. Chile Delegate: Bishop Bernardo Miguel BASTRES FLORENCE, S.D.B., bishop of Punta Arenas. Delegate: Cardinal Ricardo EZZATI ANDRELLO, S.D.B., archbishop of Santiago de Chile, president of the bishops’ conference. Alternate: Bishop Cristián CONTRERAS VILLARROEL, bishop of Melipilla, secretary general of the bishops’ conference. Cuba Delegate: Archbishop Juan de la Caridad GARCÍA RODRÍGUEZ, archbishop of Camagüey. Alternate: Bishop Marcelo Arturo GONZÁLEZ AMADOR, bishop of Santa Clara. Ecuador Delegate: Archbishop Antonio ARREGUI YARZA, archbishop of Guayaquil. Delegate: Archbishop Luis Gerardo CABRERA HERRERA, O.F.M., archbishop of Cuenca. Alternate: Bishop Julio PARRILLA DÍAZ, bishop of Riobmba. Alternate: Bishop Marcos Aurelio PÉREZ CAICEDO, bishop of Babahoyo, vice president of the bishops’ conference. Honduras Delegate: Bishop Luis SOLÉ FA, C.M., bishop of Trujillo. Alternate: Bishop Ángel GARACHANA PÉREZ, C.M.F., bishop of San Pedro Sula. Mexico Delegate: Bishop AGUILAR MARTÍNEZ, bishop of Tehuacán. Delegate: Cardinal Norberto RIVERA CARRERA, archbishop of México. Delegate: Francisco Javier CHAVOLLA RAMOS, bishop of Toluca. Delegate: Cardinal Francisco ROBLES ORTEGA, archbishop of Guadalajara, president of the bishops’ conferece. Alternate: Bishop Alfonso Gerardo MIRANDA GUARDIOLA, titular bishop of Idrica, auxiliary of Monterrey. Alternate: José Francisco GONZÁLEZ GONZÁLEZ, bishop of Campeche. United States of America Delegate: Archbishop Joseph Edward KURTZ, archbishop of Louisville, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Archbishop Charles Joseph CHAPUT, O.F.M. Cap., archbishop of Philadelphia. Delegate: Cardinal Daniel N. DI NARDO, archbishop of GalvestonHouston, vicepresident of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Archbishop José Horacio GÓMEZ, archbishop of Los Angeles. Alternate: Archbishop Blase J. CUPICH, archbishop of Chicago. Alternate: Archbishop Salvatore Joseph CORDILEONE, archbishop of San Francisco. Uruguay Delegate: Bishop Jaime Rafael FUENTES MARTÍN, bishop of Minas. Alternate: Bishop Rodolfo Pedro WIRZ KRAEMER, bishop of MaldonadoPunta del Este, president of the bishops’ conference. ASIA Pakistan Delegate: Bishop Joseph ARSHAD, bishop of Faisalabad. Alternate: Archbishop Sebastian Francis SHAW, archbishop of Lahore. Vietnam Delegate: Archbishop Paul BÙI V?N ?OC, archbishop of ThànhPhô Hô Chí Minh, Hôchiminh Ville, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Bishop Joseph ?INH ?ÚC ?AO, titular bishop of Gadiaufala, auxiliary of Xuân Lôc. Alternate: Bishop Pierre NGUYÊN V?N KHAM, bishop of My Tho. EUROPA Albania Delegate: Bishop George FRENDO, O.P., titular bishop of Butrinto, auxiliary of TiranëDurrës. Alternate: Bishop Ottavio VITALE, R.C.I., Bishop of Lezhë, Lesh. Austria Delegate: Bishop of Benno ELBS, bishop of Feldkirch. Alternate: Bishop Kalus KÜNG, bishop of Sankt Pölten. Bosnia and Herzegovina Delegate: Bishop Tomo VUKŠI?, military bishop of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Alternate: Bishop Marko SEMREN, O.F.M., titular bishop of Abaradira, auxiliary of Banja Luka. France Delegate: Archbishop Georges PONTIER, archbishop ofMarseille, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Cardinal André VINGTTROIS, archbishop of Paris. Delegate: Bishop JeanLuc BRUNIN, bishop of Le Havre. Delegate: Bishop JeanPaul JAMES, bishop of Nantes. Alternate: Bishop Olivier DE GERMAY, bishop of Ajaccio. Alternate: Bishop Bruno FEILLET, titular bishop of Gaudiaba, auxiliary of Reims. Great Britain (England and Wales) Delegate: CardinalVincent Gerard NICHOLS, archbishop of Westminster, president of the episcopal conference. Delegate: Peter John Haworth DOYLE, bishop of Northampton. Alternate: Bishop Philip Anthony EGAN, bishop of Portsmouth. Greece Delegate: Bishop Fragkiskos PAPAMANOLIS, O.F.M. Cap., emeritus bishop of Syros, president of the bishops’ conference. Alternate: Archbishop Nikolaos FOSKOLOS, archbishop emeritus of Ath?nai. Ireland Delegate: Archbishop Diarmuid MARTIN, archbishop of Dublin. Delegate: Archbishop Eamon MARTIN, archbishop of Armagh, president of the bishops’ conference. Alternate: Archbishop Kieran O’REILLY, S.M.A., Arcivescovo di Cashel. Lithuania Delegate: Cardinal Audrys Jouzas BA?KIS, archbishop emeritus of Vilnius. Alternate: Rimantas NORVILA, bishop of Vilkaviškis. Netherlands Delegate: Cardinal Willem Jacobus EIJK, archbishop of Utrecht. Alternate: Bishop Johannes Wilhelmus Maria LIESEN, bishop of Breda. Spain Delegate: Cardinal Ricardo BLÁZQUEZ PÉREZ, archbishop of Valladolid, president of the bishops’ conference. Delegate: Bishop Mario ICETA GAVICAGOGEASCOA, bishop of Bilbao. Delegate: Archbishop Carlos OSORO SIERRA, archbishop of Madrid. Alternate: Bishop Juan Antonio REIG PLÁ, bishop of Alcalá de Henares. OCEANIA Australia Delegate: Bishop Daniel Eugene HURLEY, bishop of Darwin. Delegate: Bishop Mark Benedict COLERIDGE, archbishop of Brisbane. Alternate: Archbishop Philip Edward WILSON, archbishop of Adelaide. New Zealand Delegate: Bishop Charles Edward DRENNAN, bishop of Palmerston North. Alternate: Cardinal John Atcherley DEW, archbishop of Wellington, president of the bishops’ conference.
Of course he will; the Pope and his cronies have stacked the deck so that, without men of courage standing up and fighting, true Catholicism may well be steam-rolled into oblivion. Soon, parishes will be required to “welcome” all sodomites and their “gifts” — at least according to the paragraphs that Francis be maintained and included with the language of approved text.
Even if the Pope were against this, his feckless bishops voted in the majority for virtually everything. In the false name of “mercy”, true Catholic doctrine will be subverted. Just listen to the simpering, limp-wristed whiny of Cardinal Wuerl talking about “discipline” and how it is somehow different than “doctrine”.
What is the point, then, of attending a Catholic Church, or contributing to it? If the Pope and the Zombie-leftists are going to re-create a church to their own making, then it is the duty of Catholics to find a faithful church, one that values, teaches, and administers the true, Traditional, sacraments. Other than that, you have the Anglican-Episcopal Girls Club, but in Catholic garb.
Put another way, votes by bloviated, pompous, free-loading sycophants of the Left, are meaningless, except as a sort of religious Politburo, a true Soviet, intended to tell the stupid (that’s us) what is now the true faith (oh, yes, and that we better continue to “pay up”). Just remember, that much of the engine for this “new” church is to keep the Germans happy.
It is NOT Pastoral, or Charitable or Merciful to affirm or condone anyone who chooses to continue committing any Mortal Sin.
In fact someone can become a remote participant in the sins of the others.
CCC 1868.
Sacrilege (receiving the Eucharist unworthily) against the Body and Blood of our Lord per Sacred Scripture brings condemnation 1 Cor 11:27-30.
Donald Wuerl, Blasé Cupich and other heretical high ranking Clergy do not adhere to Sacred Scripture or Doctrine of the Faith – when it suits them to do otherwise.
Unfortunately Pope Francis has named Donald Wuerl (aka ‘girly wuerly’) to help choose Bishops for the USA.
“May God console you! … What saddens you … is the fact that others have occupied the churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises — but you have the Apostolic Faith. They can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the Faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the Faith? The true Faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in the struggle — the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith? True, the premises are good when the Apostolic Faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way … “You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the Church by your Faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from Apostolic Tradition. And if an execrable jealousy has tried to shake it on a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis. No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved Brothers.” St. Athanasius the Great, Doctor of the Church.
– (Coll. Selecta SS.Eccl.Patrum, Caillau and Guillou Vol. 32, pp. 411-412)
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher
For once, St. Christopher, I aI completely agree with something you said.
I find it very that you have the self-awareness to identify yourself as one of “the stupid”.
Now that you have come to this understanding, perhaps you will realize that simple ad hominems coming from someone that lacks mental acuity is hardly a substansive argument. Nor does it pass for reasoning.
In fact, strings of ad hominems communicate nothing. Maybe you should actually try to make substansive arguments.
Well, “JonJ”, it is nice to have your agreement, at least for something. Too bad this is pretty much all of you Zombie-Liberals (oops) ever say.
The use of sarcasm, satire and the like is used throughout classic literature, criticism, and the like. Your “commentary”, in fact, is a ham-handed attempt at this.
But, the record is cleare (and you offer no response to it) that the clergy mentioned are very much at odds with what the Church teaches on a variety of key issues; here are some:
1. Homosexual sex: Cardinal Dolan said “bravo” to a young football player “coming out” as a homosexual, rather than immediately offering to counsel this young man in an effort to avoid mortal sin (and to attain salvation). Further, Abp. Forte, and many others, were behind efforts to foist “welcoming” language for sodomite “gifts”.
2. Canon 915: Many clergy, including Cardinal Wuerl and Abp. Cupich, simply refuse to apply mandatory Canon Law to avoid scandal by refusing communion to politicians that vote for abortion and homosexual sexual, rights. This is obviously wrong, but Francis says nothing (unlike Benedict XVI and Cardinal Burke, and others) to dispute this abdication of responsibility.
3. Communion for Remarried/Not Annuled Catholics. The movement by Cardinal Kasper (and German bishops) to formally permit this is well documented. Their view celebrates adultery.
4. Effiminate Clergy: The literature is vast on how the Novus Ordo has emasculated the priesthood.
You really need to catch-up, “JonJ”.
The problem, St. Christopher, is much of the Church itself is at odds with what the Church teaches with respect to homoexuality.
Historically, the Church’s behavior with respect to homosexuality has been more punitive than the CCC teaches.
For example, the American Bishops Conference—as far as I know—have never written an amicus brief to support laws putting gluttons in prison, refusing them communion, denying them housing, removing them from social organizations for expressing an attraction to gluttony (without engaging in actual gluttonous acts), nors accusing gluttons of “attacking the family”.
Yet, the Church has taken such legal positions in numerous cases about homosexuals. Dolan et al might be going to far in terms of their messaging, but I see it as struggling against the Yet, the Church has taken such legal positions in numerous cases about homosexuals. Dolan et al might be going too far in terms of their messaging, but I see it as struggling against the Church’s historical tendancy of turning a blind eye to society using morality as a justification to abuse flawed individuals caught in this particular sin.
Have the pro-homosexual advocates indulged in bullying now that the social tide is running in their favor? Certainly. Bullying, is—unfortunately—something that appeals to many people. And, adults sublimate it in many ways once they leave the playground behind. We see it in movies where audiences thrill to heroes gratitously beating up cartoonishly bad villians on the movie screen.
A significant part of the problem is the lack of teaching by the Bishops and their Priests.
1) Sacred Scripture contains the speech of God (CCC 81)
and
2) “Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition” which contains the Doctrine of the Faith.
Both should be read by all Catholic literate – yet many Clergy pretend these most important books of our Faith do not exist except for reading a few sentences at Mass. They do not exhort literate Catholics to read them.
CCC: ” 81 Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.
“And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth,
they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching.”
CCC: ” 133 The Church forcefully and specifically exhorts all the Christian faithful. . . to learn the surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ, by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures.
Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.”
“….the CATECHISM has raised throughout the world, even among non-Christians, and confirms its purpose of being presented as a full, complete exposition of Catholic doctrine,
enabling everyone to know what the Church professes, celebrates, lives, and prays in her daily life.” – Pope John Paul II (CCC pg xiv)
Family Shmamily – its the Paperwork that Counts… Haven’t they heard the latest on science becoming subservient to satan in the classroom via the ever evil democrat legislature?
BTW – Austrian Monk Gregor Mendel will obviously have to be ‘De-Scientified’ (kind of like the academic equivalent of ‘Un-Sainted’, as I understand happened to Christopher amongst others) – and his groundbreaking work (and all follow up) on Genetics placed on senator Mark “kiddie Porn King” Leno’s SB#48 ‘banned knowledge’ list.
Otherwise – just imagine the homosex hissy fit from the Twysted Sisterhood and Steroid Dyke Covens if scientific facts about all procreation being Heterosexual (XX & XY – Genetic / Gestational abnormalities notwithstanding) – is allowed in class to “Reflect Adversely” on their own Orwellian Doublethink.
I just want to know if the new form also contains a column for home planet too?
SEE
NYC Health Dept. form asks parents if ‘woman giving birth’ is male or female
It may seem like a trick question, but New York City has started asking ‘the woman giving birth’ if they are male or female.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/02/01/nyc-health-dept-form-asks-parents-if-woman-giving-birth-is-male-or-female/
…“To be clear, it is possible for a person who has given birth to a child to identify as male,” Susan Sommer, a lawyer for Lambda Legal, an advocacy group for lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people, told the paper.
McDermott, what does your post have to do with the 2015 Synod in Rome?
Spend your time answering the questions being asked. If you have not been told about them contact your own Diocese Office, since all questions must answered through them.
Your name, address, and your own Parish name and address must be included.
“…he theme: “The vocation and mission of the family in the church and the modern world.”
The question of What is Marriage is directly related to Family, and thus the attempt to Politically & Legally if not Scientifically Destroy (or at least Outlaw mention of) the very Genetic Bonds which make for Family – is a valid topic here, and one not likely to get past the ‘church of nice / mice’ monitors….
Unless it gets brought to their attention of course.
But then pretending that Men (XY) give birth and Womyn (XX) are Fathers is more about forcing people to soil themselves with Lies Before the Synod – the better to pave the way for the ‘tolerance Gaystapo’ to attack the Church from Within…
-Which really gives them a thrill when they do so using funds donated by their ‘enemies’ sitting in the Pews.
This list points out something that most people in the U.S. don’t experience. In much of the rest of the world it is not unusual to refer to the North, Central and South American ares as “The Americas.” I remember once when in Europe, someone asked me where I was from. I answered America. They said, ” Oh really, what country.” I was taken aback to say the least. Here we have a list of the Bishops attending the Synod from the Americas. Puts things in perspective.
We are also referred to as part of the “WEST” along with Europe, since we are in the Western hemisphere. ( The Pope has referred to us as that.)
When someone asks you where you are from, you should answer “United States” for accuracy. Answering “America” simply names two different continents. Being more specific you would state North American at least you would get the continent correct – Canada, the United States, Greenland, and Mexico.
If you really want people to look at you strangely – just say the Earth.
Good point Eva. However, I should point out that I will be visiting The United States of Mexico next week.
Perhaps I’m wrong, but I would think that Catholic education is a family subject. Why then is there yet another headline about LMU? “The political science department at Loyola Marymount University (LMU) in Los Angeles, despite its Catholic identity, is promoting internships for abortion advocacy organization Feminist Majority Foundation (FMF) through a listing on a department website, the group RenewLMU reported.” – the Cardinal Newman Society.
“the Pope and his cronies ”
What GOD has ANNOINTED can NOT be called ‘cronies’.
GOD will punish u for your blasphemy.
Foolish sentiment, “Tony de New York”. Many, many statements to the effect that “the road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops” are attributed to St. John Chrysostom, St. Athanasius, St. John Eudes, and a long list more.
There have been poor and simply terrible bishops, cardinals, and a few popes, too.
We are not in the land of superstition here. The Holy Ghost is working on Pope Francis, that is true (and just look at the wonder that He produced with getting a Liberal Pope Paul VI to issue the true and orthodox “Humanae Vitae”). However, Francis may not always listen, or refuse to do what is right.
A Catholic Pope is not Superman. He is a man, and makes mistakes, and can be damned. Yes, Francis has appointed his “cronies” to many things. These are not good priests, bishops and cardinals, and a good number may be active heretics. Just take some time to read up on Cardinals Dolan, Maradiaga, Wuerl, Baldisseri, and Abps. Forte and Cupich, and others.
These men, at their best, see a “New Church” and are blind to understanding their responsibility to protect and advance the Deposit of Faith that is the source of the Church’s strength. Instead, these man embrace modernity, with all of its ambivalence to sin, particularly sexual sin. They will try, and try very hard, to crack our Faith. Pray for the Pope, but attack the themes of the Synod, which promises to be bloody.
I pray the Pope does NOT appoint heretics (such as Kasper & Danneels) as his “experts and papal nominees” as he did for the 2014 Synod.
“Lineamenta” for the Oct 4 – 25, 2015 Synod of Bishops
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20141209_lineamenta-xiv-assembly_en.html
According to Baldiserri, the Pope himself ordered that paragraphs # 52, 53, 55 that did NOT get the required 2/3 Vote remain in the 2014 document to be used this year.
Bishops do not trust anyone. Pay attention to every detail so nothing gets past you.
Let the Holy Spirit through Sacred Scripture and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1997) guide you.
LINEAMENTA to be used as guide for the 2015 Synod.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20141209_lineamenta-xiv-assembly_en.html
If your own Diocese has not provided the questions included, contact your own Diocese immediately.
To answer you MUST:
1) turn in answers through / to your own Diocese:
2) provide your full name and address,
3) and the name and address of the Parish that you are registered in.
There is a deadline of Feb 20.
Thank you for posting this information, MAC.
We must all contact our own Diocese, and respond as requested by Pope Francis or we have no one to blame but ourselves if evil prevails.
In your answers quote from the Bible and CCC to support your statements. but keep your answers brief.
As has been posted by others, it is NOT Pastoral, Charitable or Merciful to confirm or condone the actions of anyone who chooses to continue living in Mortal sin of any kind.
Sacrilege against the Real Presence is an abomination. 1 Cor 11:26-30.
CCC 2120.
Bob,
P. Francis has already appointed Gomez and Cupich to that Committee. Gomez obviously ether approves or does not oppose the satanic goings on at LMU.
So there you have it!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher
Mac,
Pope Francis has already appointed Gomez who obviously supports or at a minimum does not oppose the Satanic goings on at LMU to the Synod and Kupich as an alternate!
Keep your eyes on the Faith that Our Lord gave us and NOT on the modernists’ satanic substitute!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher
Let’s all get the facts straight, Kenneth.
Those confirmed by the Pope for the 2015 Synod (listed in this article) were chosen by their own Bishops’ Conferences.
USCCB in the USA.
” The names of other participants, such as auditors,
experts and papal nominees,
will also released at a later date in the lead up to the Synod on the Family.” – These will be chosen and confirmed by the Pope.
RORATE CÆLI: A Cri de Coeur from a Convert to Pope Francis
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-cri-de-coeur-from-convert-to-pope.html#more
I pray that we all unite and pray for our beautiful church. I was touched by this quote from this article web link https://sspx.agenda.tripod.com/id21.html :
“No matter how dark it appears to get in the Church, it is always much darker outside. Jumping ship is absolutely inexcusable, and one wonders what the Church would look like today if Catholics from earlier centuries, when things looked even bleaker, had formed their own little sects instead of remaining faithful to the Bride of Christ and committing themselves to the pursuit of holiness. The downward trajectory the Society of St. Pius X has followed in recent years should serve as a lesson. Schism eventuates in violence – spiritual and physical. Those within the Society who, like Fr. John Rizzo, had the courage to employ their God-given intellects and recognize this fact were silenced. Former Society member Susan Convery concludes:
“I’m just keeping my eyes on the Church…. If a priest gets up in a clown suit and he offers Mass, I’m going to kneel there. I can cry and weep, I’ll do whatever I can. . . but I’ll do it in the Church. But I am never walking out again. I will never be so arrogant, ever again. “
Abeca, thank you for this faithful witness to Christ and His Church.
There will only be unity within the Church when the majority of literate Catholics read and adhere to Sacred Scripture and the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” (of 1997).
Those of us who want unity must encourage others regarding these two most important books.
In addition to praying, we each have a DUTY to report abuses to the appropriate Diocese Bishop and the US Papal Nuncio if necessary.
CCC: ” 907 In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a duty
to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church,
and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful,
with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons. ”
Also see Code of Canon Law: 212 #3.
Be informed on Sacred Scripture, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition, Code of Canon Law, and GIRM.
(These can all be found on the Vatican web site.)
Set a good example for others, and report abuses so that wrong doers may be corrected.
Thank you anonymous. For reminding us that faithfulness is for and with Christ and His church. Your welcome. Jmj
“I pray that we all unite and pray for our beautiful church.” = Better late than never.
Abeca you told Hugh that we need to have charitable ongoing dialogue with the devil’s ” (ages old ) new ways ministry” … You just told peter not to call anyone “icky” when you called Ann Malley “slimy”. You also compared the Vicar of Christ on earth to Archbishop Lefebvre. You have yet to answer if you support Pope Benedict XVI’s statement that homosexuality is incompatible with the priesthood. Your silence in answering that question speaks volumes. No one is touched by flip flops and inconsistent posts. If we all had a nickel for every time you called another poster “a good soul” and a “wonderful gentleman” we would be wealthy. You should definitely be apologetic because you have been exposed. Truth should NOT depend on who is willing to let you go on and on about you’re lovely figure and nice smile. Never underestimate the duplicitousness of the Lavender Mafia within the Church.
Utterly absurd. Only through her eyes. Injured pride i see. Moving on. Thank you for the comments though because it brings people back to the important warnings and information for the lay faithful to watch out for schismatics and heretics.
Abeca Christian, I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but if a priest were to say Mass in a clown outfit, I would begin to wonder just how seriously he takes the Holy Eucharist, and if he really did consecrate the bread and wine into the Holy Eucharist. I would distrust his intentions and rightly so. I could not in all good conscience attend such “Masses”. It would be blasphemous as far as I am concerned no matter what that woman said. I would find another Catholic Church that was loyal to the Magisterium, nevertheless. We are not obligated to attend any “Catholic” Mass where the priest teaches heresy.
Hi Anne T I didn’t make that quote about the clown mass, that is a rare scandal situation, it was quoted by Former Society member Susan Convery concludes. She was just reflecting on how awful it was when she was outside of the faith, that being outside of the church was way worst! You should read her story! Praise God she is back in full communion!
Well it was her reflection not mine but she was trying to make a point, which shows virtue! Of course, I agree with you, notice that she said ” I can cry and weep, I’ll do whatever I can. . . but I’ll do it in the Church.” We all must do whatever we can to report such abuses. Praise God that those are rare, I think it was just an example that she used, AN extreme case, rare.
Thanks Ann T….I agree completely with you, I would never stay, I would probably walk out and warn others to leave. That is who I am….I love our church, I love our faith because it belongs to Christ and would never stand by such abuses. So yes I agree with you. God bless you. I appreciate your comments.
“Meanness is the habit of taking pleasure in small hurts inflicted on others. One of the marks of malice, it is aware of its inability to achieve anything great; hence, it tries to destroy human happiness at least in little things. Any hurt inflicted on a neighbor that is not obviously and objectively directed to his spiritual or material welfare is the fruit of meanness. Some people are mean without realizing it, others hurt their neighbor but justify the meanness on some righteous grounds. Meanness is the younger brother of cruelty.” Father Lawrence G. Lovasik
You really need to get a grip, “Anonymous”. Grow up, be a Man (or Woman, whatever).
Zombie-Liberals all use “meanness” to silence debate, especially about homosexual sex, or abortion. Truth is always “mean” even if given in Catholic charity.
Telling someone that is homosexual, and engaging in sex, is charity, not meanness, even if it “hurts their feelings” (boo-hoo).
You sound like a little child.
I am not a Zonbie Liberal.
There was no debate here.
This isn’t about homosexual sex or abortion.
You seem to not have really read the quote, which is not from a child but from a priest who was ordained in the 1930s.
Back then people cared about their souls.
This article is about the Fall Synod delegates, and so someone decided to railroad it on some issue with the “The downward trajectory the Society of St. Pius X,” completely irrelevant. Now I understand the “Quack-quack-Schismatic” and “Quack-quack-HERETIC” lines someone else has said in other comments elsewhere. it’s an obsession.
Actually related to the substance of this story is an article in the San Jose Catholic paper about the proud appearance of Card Reinhard Marx of Berlin with the very progressive bishop of San Jose on January 15th. Marx, who will once again a major force at the 2015 Synod, has spoken repeatedly about his desire to change marriage and “blessings of relationships” in his coming New German Church. He also is on record saying that “the best times for the Church is now,” not the past, not the future: translate that as “Change, NOW!”
I don’t think the risks to the Church and its true teaching are some fractious trad groups, but the existing leadership.
“….I don’t think the risks to the Church and its true teaching are some fractious trad groups, but the existing leadership.”
Precisely so, Chris in San Jose. But distraction is precisely how those in the existing leadership often get away with taking inexcusable risks…. because they are aided by a core group of cheerleaders who erroneously believe that pointing the finger outward will actually keep that which is bad inside from doing its dirty work. And since distraction is promoted as ‘protecting’ the Church, these zealous individuals believe they are doing God’s work.
Is it too much to ask our Bishops for consistency in teaching the Faith even within their own Diocese?
2015 Synod Member – Cardinal Daniel N. DI NARDO has some explaining to do.
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?today=2015-02-06
” Quack, quack, heretic-attack!”: all Novus.Ordo/Oregon ducks to the barricades! The Church is under attack by the SSPX and trad Catholics—don’t pay attention to those delegates and cardinals behind the curtains over there! It’s trad groups that are making the Church look foolish, attack family life (they’re “having babies like rabbits”, he said), and causing people to leave in droves. That’s it, that’s it! Quack, quack, quaaack!!
The Church is not under attack from the SSPX and trad Catholics. It is not under attack from any of the other independent chapels either.
Schismatics don’t usually attack the Church; they just leave.
…which makes one wonder why these groups are forever mentioned as ‘the’problem whenever the problems within the Church are discussed. Could it be that some within the Church and even some on CCD do not want problems to be resolved?
Who calls these groups “the problem”? I have never even heard of these groups mentioned at Church.
I’ve never said that SSPX is “the problem” in the Church. So which “whenever” are you talking about, Ann Malley? Or did you just make up what people say so you can complain about something?
I don’t know why this person fiip flops so much.
One post she’s SSPX.
Next post she’s not.
I really think there is something more going on than religion.
Right on Anonymous. Jesus wins in the end. Regardless of how the heretics and schismatics feel.
The Synod on the Family is extremely important to all Catholics.
A great schism could take place.
Please take your un-related discussions off-line about the SSPX.
Those starting, continuing, and participating in SSPX and other non-related issues are distracting people from issues of importance.
The Vatican has spoken about the SSPX, and until the Vatican changes their position, discussion is silly, divisive – and most importantly means absolutely NOTHING – since no posters have the authority or power to influence the Vatican on the lack of canonical status of the SSPX in the Church.
Rant and rave on your own time, in your own space if you must.
PETE no thank you. This website is dominated by SSPX supporters, their double standards and hypocrisy, it is also their actions that work against the mission of the church, they contribute to them. Your comments are uncharitable! Just because you lack to understand that it is also their schism that edifies moral relativism! I was encouraged by a holy priest to educate the lay faithful. I was not aware how problematic the issues with SSPX and other break away groups, until I started doing my research and since I ask our Lord to guide me, I trust that our Lord wanted me to show their double standards. Now if you choose to remain ignorant about that topic, then its up to you but know this that in the past, when I first started commenting here, I use to side with the SSPX, because they mislead me into harboring ill feelings against being in full communion and I lacked understanding what that really meant, not what they convey. But through prayer and trust in Jesus, all this great information came to me without even working hard at it. My devotion to the rosary, led me. The SSPX supporters want you to post things like you just did. But I won’t agree with you on this one. PAX Christi
Abeca Christain. Ann Malley, and others there are only 5 or 6 of you who insist on hijacking articles to argue about the SSPX.
The Vatican is the authority not ANY of you. And the Vatican has spoken.
Merely provide a link to the Vatican on the SSPX when necessary. Your personal opinions are not important in this matter.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT:
Have EACH of YOU answered the 46 questions on the LINEAMENTA and turned your answers into your Diocese for use at the 2015 SYNOD,
or are you all too busy flapping your jaws over the SSPX which you have zero authority and can not change ?
People miss the IMPORTANT POSTS when you hijack articles.
The DEADLINE is FEB 20.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20141209_lineamenta-xiv-assembly_en.html
Lack of Catechesis at all age levels 4 through 80 over the past 50 years;
Lack of encouraging the Literate to read a Catholic Bible and the CCC at home;
Allowing those who choose to continue living in the state of mortal sin (ongoing sinful sexual activity) to commit Sacrilege against the REAL PRESENCE;
Priests (and Laity) not adhereing to GIRM;
etc.;
these must be the topics of timely discussion for the 2015 SYNOD.
Again you only have until FEB 20 to answer the LINEMENTA.
God love you, Mike. Flapping jaws or flying fingers.
I’ll try to pass on the bait in future. But you are absolutely correct that it is a distraction technique.
God bless…. and no, I haven’t filled out the questionnaire as I attend a Society chapel at present.
I agree with Pete. Cardinal Burke gave an interview to a French news site and said he would resist Pope Francis if he approves to give Holy Communion to public adulterers and homosexuals. I saw the video with the English translation. You could find it reported at Remnant newspaper website. Wow! Cardinal Burke looked and sounded very concerned for the Church.
…those who love Our Lord, the Church and the Faith are rightfully concerned. Wow is right!
THIS IS NO JOKE – – – – The potential DISASTER within the Church regarding SACRILEGE against the HOLY EUCHARIST
is why we must all answer the LINEMENTA questions by Feb 20.
(See my post above for more info.)
Bishop Athanasius Schneider: ‘We are in the fourth great crisis of the Church’.
https://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features/2014/06/06/bishop-athanasius-schneider-we-are-in-the-fourth-great-crisis-of-the-church/
It is not Pastoral, or Charitable, or Merciful to permit or encourage SACRILEGE against Our Lord. 1 Cor 11:27-30.
” The Discipline Regarding the Denial of Holy Communion to Those Obstinately Persevering in Manifest Grave Sin” – Cardinal Burke
https://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/holycom/denial.htm
The Eucharist Crisis 02-09
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?today=2015-02-09
He will resist –
https://www.gloria.tv/media/eywq4NgnUxR
MIKE,
Who is joking? You quote, and rightfully so:
Bishop Athanasius Schneider: ‘We are in the fourth great crisis of the Church’.
https://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features/2014/06/06/bishop-athanasius-schneider-we-are-in-the-fourth-great-crisis-of-the-church/
And then reference the survey. Do you REALLY believe that answers to a survey are in any way going to effect the machinations of such a grave crisis? Lies and lines are already drawn and battle plans/schemas written and studied. So yes, it is important to speak up. That’s a given, MIKE. Many have been doing so for years….decades.
But it is SERIOUSLY time to understand that RESISTANCE may be the next order of the day. Note, I did not say, will be, but may be. Even Cardinal Burke says so for those who shy away from reality in favor of tea parties.
That is why you may call it ‘Jaw Flapping’ but the ‘tone of schism’ police may well start going after Cardinal Burke for the very interview you noted above. What do you think all of this enabling distraction meant to point fingers at the SSPX is about, MIKE? It’s to keep the ball rolling on the predetermined route. And surveys are often a means just to say – check the box – we gave the laity an opportunity to be involved.
So NO,no joke.
RORATE EXCLUSIVE: OPEN LETTER BY ARCHBISHOP ON THE CRISIS IN THE CHURCH
‘It is difficult to believe that Pope Benedict XVI freely renounced his ministry as successor of Peter.’
‘I am forced to resort to this public means of expression because I fear that any other method would be greeted by a brick wall of silence and disregard.’
‘… increasingly evident that the Vatican through the Secretariat of State has taken the course of political correctness.’
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/02/rorate-exclusive-open-letter-by.html#more
Ann Malley,
RESISTING SIN (SACRILEGE against the EUCHARIST) is NOT joining the SSPX nor participating in their services – which “has no legitimate ministry within the Church”. – per Pope Benedict.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html
CCC: ” 907 In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a DUTY
to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church,
and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful,
with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.”
(Also Code of Canon Law 212 #3.)
[ Ann Malley you personally asked for it, so here it is –
QUOTE: ” As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers DO NOT EXERCISE LEGITIMATE MINISTRIES in the Church. ….
In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has NO canonical status in the Church, and its ministers – even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty – DO NOT LEGITIMATELY EXERCISE ANY MINISTRY in the Church.” UNQUOTE – Pope Benedict.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html ]
MIKE, don’t lecture me on what resisting sin is only to scrabble to tell folks to hurry up and fill out their questionnaire because there could be a schism within the Church. Look to what Cardinal Burke stated in the interview you posted and understand what he is intimating. Obviously, you don’t. But if things should fall out poorly, I wonder if you will stand with Cardinal Burke or capitulate. That’s the question you should be asking yourself before attempting to educate others as to what fighting sin is all about.
As for your response to me ‘asking for it’ stop using your quotations as a weapon, MIKE, you only undermine your own message. The one you state is no joke.
All Catholics, please answer the questions of the LINEMENTA questions by Feb 20,
and send to your own Diocese along with your name and address
and the name and address of the Parish in which you are registered.
Ignore those who are trying to destroy the Church by pushing luke warmness or your lack of participation.
If you do not participate, you have no right to complain.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20141209_lineamenta-xiv-assembly_en.html