Gómez himself has sent his presentation on video, since his commitments as current president of the U.S. bishops prevented him from going to Spain. The presentation was released this Thursday, November 4. The theme of the congress is political correctness and woke, a stream of increasingly totalitarian tones that has jumped around the world from the United States.
In the preparatory video for the Congress, the president of the U.S. bishops wanted to explain this phenomenon, its context, and how to respond. We summarize it below:
1. Powerful leaders who despise Christianity
“In our countries certain types of elitist leaders have emerged who are not so interested in religion and have no real ties with the nations in which they live or with local traditions or cultures. This group, which is in charge of corporations, governments, universities and the media and which is found in cultural and professional establishments, wants to establish what we could call a global civilization, based on a consumer economy and governed by science, technology, humanitarian values and technocratic ideas about the organization of society.”
“Within this elitist worldview, there is no need for antiquated belief systems and religions. In fact, from their point of view, religion, and especially Christianity, is something that is only a hindrance to the kind of society that they hope to build. And, I think it is important to keep this in mind. As the popes have pointed out, in practice, secularization means “de-Christianization.”
2. What they want to cancel is Christian beliefs.
“In the program that you established for this Congress, you allude to the “culture of cancellation ” and “politically correct.” And we realize that often what is canceled and corrected are the perspectives that are ingrained in the Christian beliefs about human life and person, about marriage, family and much more.”
“In your society and mine, the ‘space’ that the Church and believing Christians can occupy is shrinking. Church institutions and Christian-owned businesses are increasingly challenged and harassed. The same is happening. with Christians who work in education, healthcare, government and other sectors. Having certain Christian beliefs is said to be a threat to the freedoms and even the safety of other groups in our societies. ”
3. In the US there is racial and economic inequality.
The case of George Floyd, an African American who was killed by the violence of an Anglo-Saxon policeman, “became a clear reminder that racial and economic inequality is still deeply ingrained within our society. And I think we must bear in mind this reality of the existence of this inequality. Because these new movements are part of a broader discourse, of a debate that is absolutely essential about how to build an American society that expands opportunities for all, regardless of the color of their skin or their origin or origin. economic situation”.
4. They are rival pseudo-religions of Christianity.
“My argument is this: I think the best way for the Church to understand what the new social justice movements are is to see them as pseudo religions, and even as replacements and rivals of traditional Christian beliefs. With the collapse of the Judeo-Christian worldview and the rise of secularism, political belief systems based on social justice and personal identity have come to fill the space once occupied by Christian beliefs and practices.
“Whatever we call these movements – ‘social justice,’ ‘woke culture,’ ‘identity politics,’ ‘intersectionality,’ ‘successor ideology’ – they claim to offer what religion provides. They give people an explanation of events and world conditions. They offer you a sense of meaning, a life purpose and a sense of belonging to a community. Also, like Christianity, these new movements tell their own ‘salvation story.’ ”
5. We must proclaim the Christian message … because the woke message competes with it.
“Jesus reconciles us with God and with our neighbor; he gives us the grace to be transformed into his image and calls us to follow him in faith, loving God and our neighbor and working to build his Kingdom on earth. All this, with the confident hope that we will obtain eternal life with Him, in the world to come. That is the Christian story. And now more than ever, the Church and every Catholic needs to know this story and proclaim it in all its beauty and in all its truth.”
“We need to do it, because currently, there is another story hanging around there. An antagonistic narrative of ‘salvation’ that we hear in the media and in our institutions, coming from the new social justice movements.
“The woke movement proclaims: ‘Our group is suffering and is being alienated, and this happens, through no fault of our own. The cause of our unhappiness is that we are victims of the oppression of other groups in society. And we achieve liberation and redemption through through our constant struggle against our oppressors, waging a battle for political and cultural power, in the name of creating an equitable society. ”
6. The woke movement attracts because it divides into good and bad.
“This is certainly a powerful and engaging discourse for millions of people, both in American society and in societies throughout the West. In fact, many of America’s leading organizations, universities, and even public schools are promoting and actively teaching this perspective. This story draws its strength from the simplicity of its explanations: the world is divided into innocents and victims, allies and enemies . But this narrative is also attractive because, as I said before, it responds to real human needs and suffering. . People are suffering, feel discriminated against and excluded from the opportunities that exist in society. We must never forget this reality. Many of those who adhere to these new movements and belief systems are motivated by noble intentions.”
7. It is a mixture of atheism, Pelagianism, Manichaeism and other heresies
“Today’s critical theories and ideologies are deeply atheistic. They deny the soul, as well as the spiritual and transcendent dimension of human nature; or they think that this is irrelevant to human happiness. They reduce what it means to be human to essentially physical qualities. like the color of our skin, our sex, our notions of gender, ethnic origin and position in society. We can certainly see that these are some elements of liberation theology , rooted in a Marxist cultural vision.
“They are also very similar to heresies and false gospels that we find throughout the history of the Church. Like the Manicheans, these movements see the world as a struggle between good and evil, the just versus the unjust. And as Gnostics reject creation and the body, believing that human beings can make themselves whatever they want. These movements are also Pelagian, since they believe that redemption can be achieved through our own human efforts, without having In the end, these movements are utopian, because they seem to believe that we can create a kind of ‘heaven on earth,’ a perfect society, through political power.
“I think it is important for the Church to understand and approach these new movements, not in social or political terms, but as dangerous substitutes for true religion. By denying God, these new movements have lost the truth about the human person. This it explains their extremism and their tough, uncompromising and relentless approach to politics. And from a Gospel point of view, because these movements deny the human person, however well-intentioned they may be, they cannot promote authentic human flourishing.”
8. What to do? Proclaim Christ boldly.
“What should be done? How should the Church respond to these new secular movements seeking social change? My answer is simple. We need to proclaim Jesus Christ. Proclaim him boldly, creatively. We need to tell our salvation story in a new way. With charity and trust, without fear. This is the mission of the Church for all times and for all cultural moments.
“We should not be intimidated by these new religions of social justice and political identity. The Gospel remains the most powerful force for social change that has ever existed in the world. And the Church has been ‘anti-racist’ from the beginning. They are all there. included within his message of salvation.”
“The world does not need a new secular religion to replace Christianity. Rather, it needs you and I to be better witnesses, better Christians. Let’s start by forgiving, by loving, by sacrificing ourselves for others, discarding spiritual poisons such as resentment. and envy. Personally, I find inspiration in the saints and characters who lived a life of holiness in the history of my country. I think especially of the Servant of God, Dorothy Day. For me, she offers an important testimony of the way in which Catholics can work to change the social order through radical detachment and love for the poor based on the Beatitudes, the Sermon on the Mount, and the works of mercy.
“I am also inspired by the testimony of Venerable Father Augustus Tolton . His is an impressive and truly American story. He was born into slavery, escaped to freedom with his mother, and became the first African-American ordained priest in my country. Father Tolton once said, “The Catholic Church deplores a double slavery: that of the mind and that of the body. She strives to free us from both.
“The truth is that we are all sinners, we are all people who want to do the right thing, but often do not. That does not mean that we must remain passive in the face of social injustice. That never! But we have to insist that it Brotherhood cannot be built through animosity or division. True religion does not seek to harm or humiliate, nor to ruin people’s livelihoods or fame. True religion offers a way for even the worst of sinners to find redemption.”
9. This decade we will see a spiritual awakening
“In the United States, as in Mexico, the Church is preparing to celebrate the 490th anniversary of the appearance of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which commemorates the true spiritual foundation of the American continent. And we are already seeing signs of a religious awakening in our country, below the political controversies, the clouds of the pandemic and the uncertainty of the future. I am convinced that in the next decade we will see a spiritual awakening and a growth in faith, as we prepare for the 500th anniversary of the appearance And the words of María de Guadalupe in Tepeyac fill me with inspiration and strength: ‘I am not here, I am your mother. Are you not under my shadow, and shelter?’ ”
The above comes from a translated Nov. 4 story on the site of ReligionenLibertad.
Will you fix the Religious Education Congress to do those things?
If you live in the Archdiocese of LA, did you write your (arch-)bishop and ask him to do so?
He might not read the comments section of the California Catholic Daily.
If you live in the Archdiocese of LA, did you write your (arch-)bishop?
Not all bishops read the comments section of California Catholic Daily.
The REC has wreaked horrific damage to the Church for many years!
The damage to the Church wrought by folks like the beloved SSPX, FSSP, the Institute of Christ the King, and the other exclusivist former “Ecclesia Dei” communities who look down upon the Ordinary Form and Vatican II, is just as horrific as whatever damage you claim the REC has done.
If the Gospel is so powerful, why do 90% of kids raised Catholic leave the church? Why is Confirmation a goodbye sacrament and ritual?
You see a spiritual reawakening? Maybe just empty words to try to rally the troops. I think in ten years the church will be even smaller than it is now and society will be even more hostile to Christianity.
So what’s your point, “Maybe”? These are not empty words by the Archbishop. If anything, his naming of the type of heresies that wokeness is espousing is hopeful because these are the old, ancient heresies of the past which the Church had done battle with and had succeeded. He is pointing to how the Church can answer the wokeness of our time, and it behooves folks like you (that’s if you are a Catholic, and if you are a Christian to begin with), to help the Church out rather than standing in the sidelines with this snideful, pseudo-sophisticated stance, asking questions that a person without faith would ask. Maybe some of the young people you know have left precisely because they can sense your negative attitude towards the Church and faith. Ever thought of that?
The proof is in the pudding. The LA archdiocese is hemorrhaging young people and the LAREC is a heterodox nightmare. Instead of lecturing the worldwide church, why doesn’t he succeed in his own territory? Talk is cheap. That’s all most of these bishops do is talk. They don’t really succeed at anything.
The issue is, you’re not helping, are you Anonymous? You’re just complaining unnecessarily. You think that your words lambasting the good-faith efforts of the clergy have no effect on the morale of any Catholic—young or old–reading your rant? To bring in the LA REC into the mix, which is irrelevant to this article, is a diversion. This Archbishop has identified the key heresies of wokism, and instead of agreeing, you unnecessarily and unjustly thrash. You’re part of the problem.
You don’t know what he/she/xe/they is doing or not doing. Complaints have their place. I think his/her/xir/their comment touches on the fact that Catholics want to see bishops doing something meaningful and effective instead of just talking or writing documents about the Eucharist that nobody will read and will be so watered down as to be worthless.
Penanoke is wrong. First, the American bishops haven’t even voted on the document about the Eucharist. Secondly, clergy do “something meaningful” when the Sacraments are celebrated, and when they proclaim Christ Jesus, which is what the Archbishop’s words are really about here. And I notice you haven’t even mentioned the Holy Name yourself in your comment. Very very telling, Penanoke.
Excellency, I salute you for saying what needs to be said. You’ve hit the nail on the head, and I hardly think it could be said better, at least up to ” Let’s start by forgiving, by loving, by sacrificing ourselves for others, discarding spiritual poisons such as resentment. and envy. ” I wonder if we should first start by a deep soul-searching on how the Church lost its attractiveness both to its adherents and those outside and engage in some repentance for sinful turns which sapped the Church’s vitality and turned her away from her true purpose of bringing people to God here and heaven for eternity.
Look no further than the clergy homosexual abuse and corruption/coverup scandal. There’s your answer.
What does that got to do with the heresies of wokism, eh? You want to know one of the present great problems in the Church? Look inside your attitude of dissent and irreverence and disobedience, Anonymous.
Too many homosexual predators in the clergy. Can’t believe the absolutely horrible recent news stories, of gay priests caught by police, seducing young, underage boys, and involved in online child and/or teen pornography.
Including Fr. Jackson of the FSSP, which only celebrates the TLM. No more TLM. Fr. Jackson has been charged with possessing and distributing child porn.
The vast majority of clergy child sex abusers have been diocesan and religious order priests who say the New Mass, not the old Latin Mass. Fr. Jackson is the first FSSP clergy child sex abuser that we all have heard of– shocking! The rest of the FSSP priests are as good as any. The old Latin Mass is as good as the New Mass. The problem is with the criminal child sex abuser who is a priest– and a great many of these criminals are homosexuals. The form of Mass does not matter. It sounds like homosexuality is a big problem in the clergy, to begin with.
People, as shocking as these abuses are, they do not negate the truthfulness of the teachings of the Catholic Church such as the Second Vatican Council, the validity of the Ordinary Form, and other teachings with respect to faith and morals. Nor do these sad events negate the correctness of this Archbishop’s words about the heresies/errors of wokism/wokeness. Many folks on the left and the right, who wish to denigrate the Church and her teachings, have been unjustly using the news of these sad abuses in order to marginalize the Church’s voice in public discourse. They will receive a very severe condemnation in the Last Judgment.
So jon, be quiet and follow the teachings of Jesus, like the rest of us. Stop pridefully putting yourself above others. Humble yourself before the Lord– or He may put you in the last seat, not the first, your favorite! Pride is deadly– and keeps many souls out of Heaven! In Heaven, there is only the Lord. No Vatican II documents, and no documents of Pope Francis for you to defend. Sorry.
“Humble” is wrong. There is nothing as humbling as coming here and being attacked for doing the right thing, that is, for defending the Pope, defending all of the teachings of the Church, all of her liturgies in all of its forms, and for defending all of her councils. And “Humble,” it is not exactly a mark of humility to come here and tell another cementer to “be quiet”.
I say, the Archbishop has already pointed out exactly and more concretely (than “Dan” could ever do) what must be done by the Church in the face of wokeness’ heresies: “My answer is simple. We need to proclaim Jesus Christ. Proclaim him boldly, creatively. We need to tell our salvation story in a new way. With charity and trust, without fear. This is the mission of the Church for all times and for all cultural moments.” I daresay if “Dan” had just read that statement from the Archbishop and pondered it a bit longer before commenting, he wouldn’t feel the need to write that last sentence in his comment. Just saving you folks some time and effort here. Carry on.
Sorry Jon, I read his statement over and over again, and my differing with Archbishop Gomez was carefully worded. If you don’t like it, that is your right,. The tone of your post seems most petty to me, and I am going to rewrite it to remove this regrettable trait:
“As Dan has said, the Archbishop has expertly pointed out the challenges of the Woke culture to the church though we differ somewhat on his critique of the solution. Dan feels the program lacks sufficient remorse and repentance for past and present sins, while I feel that the Archbishop included this when he says, ““The truth is that we are all sinners, we are all people who want to do the right thing, but often do not,” and in his appeals to holiness through action. I appeal to Dan to consider if this is so.”
There Jon, you have affirmed our common ground and where we differ, may I say, charitably.
Folks, “Dan” doesn’t get it. The Archbishop has correctly identified the One and Only Solution to society’s wokism, and Dan is oblivious to it. Dan, let me help you out here. Nowhere in your posts here have you identified and named Our Lord as the Solution. The Archbishop did. “Doing the right thing” (which is your solution) as noble-sounding as it is, is vague, petty, empty-sounding, and “woke.” Dan, you have forgotten Our Lord in your posts. You have not acknowledged Him, but the Archbishop did. Without Him you will never be able to address wokism, and you will continue to lack “common ground” with any faithful Catholic. Pitiful.
wokism isn’t a thing.
And being woke does not need a solution.
The One and Only Solution is on the side of the woke.
The right wing media and social media has made that word a pejorative but all it really means is being aware of what black or other minority groups experience.
So, “admonish” here by saying that “the One and Only Solution is on the side of the woke” has just answered for God. “admonish” seems to know which side God is on. Really, “admonish”? So does this mean that we should all forget what people like the Archbishop says? “admonish”, Our Lord has designated the Apostles as his spokesmen; in our time that would be the Pope and the bishop for they have succeeded in the office of the Apostles. People, it is not folks like “admonish” who speaks for God on earth, the Church does and specifically those ordained by God to speak for Him, namely the living Magisterium.
The Church-the Scriptures, Tradition, the Magisterium. has always maintained God love for the poor and oppressed, for minorities and the marginalized. (Although, there are historical examples where the Church has not lived up to Her ideals, which Popes have apologized for.)
I am not usurping the authority of the Church for reiterating its teaching and every Christian can speak for God on earth-it is our job.
“admonish,” by directly contradicting this Archbishop, you have in a certain way attempted to “usurp” the teaching authority of the Church on a matter of faith. It is the Church as a whole (through the living Magisterium and not any one individual Christian) who speaks for God in a definite way. In other words “admonish,” because you are neither the entire Church nor a part of the teaching Magisterium, you have no authority to say “God is on the side of wokism.” Nope. If wokism were merely about God’s “love for the poor and oppressed, for minorities and the marginalized,” this Archbishop wouldn’t have released this statement as he did. But as this Archbishop states, wokism attempts to negate God, and thereby attempts to reduce the human person into the mere material. It attempts to marginalize faith, and Christianity in particular, in public discourse. And I daresay it attempts to recast history, negating thereby the historical positive contributions of Christianity in Western Civilization.
I did not contradict the Archbishop, I admonished a commenter named jon. I did not say that God is on the side of “wokism” I said God is on the side of the woke-those who are aware of what blacks and other minorities experience.
The archbishop did not say “wokism” He said “woke culture” and equated it with “social justice” which a long standing principle in the Catholic Church. Read #4. It explains what he means. The terms he uses to describe the phenomenon are odd. “intersectionality” is how race and class, and gender combine to create discrimination and disadvantage. But…
The current debate over intersectionality is really three debates: one based on what academics like Crenshaw actually mean by the term, one based on how activists seeking to eliminate disparities between groups have interpreted the term, and a third on how some conservatives are responding to its use by those activists.
Sorry the internet took my post before I was through with it.
Maybe I hit something on my keyboard that did that, I don’t know.
Anyway, Crenshaw is the person who coined the term “intersectionality.” The quote came from a story on VOX.
In looking up the bishops last term, which I had never heard before, I think I found what you and Dan are referring to.
Successor ideology also seems to be something that one person tweeted and a bunch of other people riffed off of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successor_ideology
Also in general, bishops have to stick to the Faith, When they go outside the Faith, you can challenge them. I do not know what the Bishop read or heard that prompted his comment and his use of those words to describe it.
The bishops plan to spread the Gospel is the correct plan.
The Archbishop has identified The Solution to the errors/heresies in “wokism”/ “woke culture”/ “woke movement.” By denying that he/she has contradicted the Archbishop, is “admonish” / “On” thereby saying that the Archbishop endorses the “elitist leaders” which he himself had critiqued in article #1 of his statement, since these “elitist leaders” are “woke”, and that God—according to “admonish”–is on the side of the “woke”? Is “admonish”/ “On” saying that God is on the side of those who espouse the errors and heresies of wokism? Be under no illusion folks, “admonish”/ “On” has indeed contradicted the Archbishop. And who is “admonish”/ “On” to limit the ministry of the bishops of the Catholic Church? “Wokism” touches upon the social order, which is precisely within the purview of the ministers of the Church to address. In fact the Catechism speaks about such errors.
This is evil.
My name is not Evil. That was mean. I should have put a name on it I guess but I really was just to hurt and depressed. I went to bed not knowing whether to kill myself or quit being a Christian.
“Am I not here?” Not “I am not here.”
wut?
The quote from Our Lady of Guadelupe at the end of the article.
me– Yes! I noticed that too! The article needs correction! Our Lady said, “Am I not here?”
I think we are moving back into another “Never trust anyone over 30” decade.
Not to criticize the bishop but really what is Pelagianism or Manichaeism?
Sanitary prudence? He did not say that but the author did.
Anglo-Saxon? What century are we in?
All this attention to college professor stuff. Yeah it is on the cable news stations and the View whose audience is mainly over 55 years of age.
Young people don’t watch that stuff.
Unless you are a poli sci major, really, do you pay any attention to this?
Young people care about climate change; they care about police violence and injustice; they care about causes and helping people.
They wonder about the universe; they ponder the meaning of life and their purpose. They start families and try to make ends meet.
The harvest is rich; laborers are few.
And those who can’t find a spouse to start a family with are looking for a spouse and those who have started families without a spouse need tons of support. I feel like in the US most people believe in God but they do not go to Church.
Those who do not believe in God usually “believe there is something out there.”
There are some like the Church of (let’s not say the name) who have consciously decided to reject all of that.
But it is like Jesus told the disciples-Shake the dust off your feet. If someone doesn’t listen to you, move on and let God deal with it.
One thing we could use is cheap evangelization materials. Giving someone a book is always a good way to help. Now that the Bible is online a resource for helpful Bible quotes and maybe a resource on the Gospels and living Christianity. Especially ones that might help people through a depressed phase or a period of grief.
A Good basic tiny Catechism would be helpful.
Very well written and thoughtful commentary on the new secular religions as far as it goes. Now how can the Church proclaim the Gospel? We need saintly bishops and priests, and total transparency in the financial and moral conduct of each diocese.
Oh here we go with this subtle form of clergy bashing again, this time from “Phoebe.”. How about “we need saintly lay people too”, who would actually uphold and obey all of the teachings of the Church, particularly from the Second Vatican Council.
Saints are made by God. Not by collecting fancy, advanced degrees from prestigious seminaries, not by what any Church Council writes down in documents, not by having lots of fancy intellectual discussions and writing fancy intellectual books and papers. Holiness is different. Many Church leaders are full of nothing but cheap, fancy-sounding, endless “intellectualisms”– but very short on holiness. Holiness requires lots of hard work, in compliance with God’s Will! Our current situation of dangerous, Godless secular beliefs springing up everywhere, is due in large part, to the abysmal failure of our modern Church to effectively catechize her parishioners, cultivate and protect her schools, universities and seminaries, and teach and defend Christ’s teachings in secular society– and to reject and refuse the infiltration of all evil, immoral and heretical, destructive influences. And so the Devil rages violently, in our midst! “Human Freedoms” to “make your own choices in life,” and “respect diversity of beliefs,” seem more important to many spiritual leaders in today’s Church, than seeking holiness, in accordance with God’s Will!
This post is directed at admonish; there was no reply on his/her posts. ““We should not be intimidated by these new religions of social justice and political identity.” The Archbishop ably distinguishes between the secular religion of wokeness and the Gospel, which ” remains the most powerful force for social change that has ever existed in the world. ” The religion of wokeness at its worse is a counterfeit gospel, a totalitarian ideology whose fruits are division, exclusion and cancellation, the ruining of lives for incorrect speech. It seeks to destroy, not build up, as if progress were a zero-sum game in which the advancement of some requires the cancellation of others. There is a gospel-wokeness as when a person becomes awake in Christ as a new creation, but this has little to do with the secular counterpart with the exception that both understand the need for social justice but with opposite strategies for combatting the same.
Dan, I guess maybe there is a thing called “wokeness” now because someone made it that way. I don’t know what you think “the religion of wokeness” is. If you read #3 of the bishops’ talk, that is woke.
He then goes on to talk about “woke culture” which he equates with “social justice, identity politics, intersectionality, successor ideology” and says that they claim to offer what religion provides. What?
I just saw a headline on FoxNews that had the word wokeness in it. Maybe that is where it is coming from.
The archbishop is correct, IMO. He is not talking about Christian dedication to social justice, which may be your point of reference. He is talking about people who buy into an ideology, a dogma with a religious fervor but without the gospel. They arrogate to themselves the right to pass judgment on those outside their orthodoxy and to punish them in their righteous zeal. Think of all the cancelled people whose only sin is incorrect speech. Think ESPN, MIT, (yes, MIT) and the educational establishment in general. Think LMU, the subject of a recent thread. Think of students unable to comprehend alternative points of view, or allow themselves to engage in any meaningful debate. Think of that poor woman suing a Catholic hospital even though they directed her to another hospital where she could mutilate herself. That is the wokeness Abp Gomez finds so beguilingly bad.
Reading it again, Dan, I think he is saying and he has said before, that political ideologies are replacing religions.
When I googled, is woke a new religion?, then I got some hits but it seems to me people just reacting to what is called cancel culture. People have always been cancelled-it used to be for sexual impropriety, moral turpitude, occasionally something else.
The Smothers Brothers got cancelled, literally.
Jerry Lee Lewis got cancelled.
The tried to cancel the Beatles-it did not work.
As far as I know the whole woke thing is so 2020.
The Women’s March imploded under racial tensions.
BLM is going into other interests which is almost always a sign that an organization has reached the end of its reach.
Whether Archbishop Gomez’ diagnosis of the problem is correct or not, his solution is.
Going further down this rabbit hole, it seems that being woke is being called a new religion mainly because it drums out the heretics. Hmmmm…
Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., did not teach political or secular “jargon” and strategies. He simply lived and taught from the Bible. People who are seeking justice, equality, etc. and toss
out the Bible, have made a horrible mistake! Only God can bring mankind true justice and true equality! Not man and his secular political concepts, such as “wokeism.” Christ’s teachings are hard, but they are the only way.
Why should we take Ab. Gomez seriously when he supports and tolerates the seminaries under his own jurisdiction (by doing nothing to reform them), He becomes the problem itself. Our Church requires spiritually masculine men, not men who actively crave men and boys. St. Johns seminary continues to be a cesspool. The disgraced Cardinal seems to continue to call the shots. Man up, in a spiritually healthy way.
“felix,” unless you’ve been on a different planet you should have heard by now the Dallas Charter. Moreover, you really don’t know, do you now, what measures bishops are taking with respect to their seminaries. The fine folks at St. John’s Seminary will not appreciate your uncharitableness. And a disgraced “Cardinal seems to continue to call the shots”? Sounds like words from someone who’s been on a different planet alright. And “felix,” your words have nothing to do with the errors of wokism.
Say, Cal-Catholic,
If Gomez can sling bull here freely, why cancel rebuttal?