The following comes from a Sept. 15 posting on Rorate Caeli.
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco is not only a known “culture warrior” but is also the Chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage. Not surprisingly, he was elected by his fellow US bishops in November 2014 as one of two “alternates” for the four USCCB delegates to the Synod of 2015. The other alternate was Blase Cupich, at that time the Archbishop-elect of Chicago.
Today’s final list of Synod members includes 8 Americans: the four delegates elected by the US bishops (Archbishops Joseph Kurtz, Charles Chaput and Jose Gomez and Cardinal Daniel DiNardo), and four papal appointees: Cardinals Timothy Dolan and Donald Wuerl, Archbishop Blase Cupich, and Bishop George Murry SJ.
How interesting that of the six bishops originally elected last year by the US Bishops to represent them in this year’s Synod either as delegates or alternates, the ONLY ONE who will not be able to make it is Salvatore Cordileone, who is actually the US episcopate’s point man on the “promotion and defense of marriage”?
Underlining his non-appointment is the fact that Pope Francis appointed four US prelates, three of whom had not even been elected by their peers to represent them in this year’s Synod. No, he was not excluded because there was no space for him anymore, Neither could he have been excluded because he is “unknown” — his position as an alternate, if nothing else, would certainly have put him within the Pope’s attention as he (or his closest advisers) studied whom else to appoint to the Synod.
Pope Francis has personally appointed heretical Cardinals and Bishops to the Oct 4-25 Synod.
Church definition – CCC: ” 2089 HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.”
These clerical heretics support condoning the MORTAL SINS of: Fornication, Adultery, Homosexual Acts, and Contraception under the disguise of “pastoral, merciful, and charitable”.
These are in violation of Sacred Scripture and the Doctrine of the Faith.
Of course he did not appoint heretical cardinals and bishops to the synod…most of whom were created cardinals and ordained bishops by Benedict. You just don’t like his style, so you attack him.
Not true “Your Fellow Catholic”. Any Cardinal or Bishop who purposely and publically advocated against the teachings of the Doctrine of the Faith – Sacred Scripture and the CCC – are ‘heretics’ by Church definition.
CCC: “HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;”
You merely want the Church to approve the Mortal Sin of homosexual acts.
Pope Benedict or Pope Saint John Paul appointed these Bishops, and created these Cardinals, in almost every instance. Are you saying they appointed heretical bishops and cardinals? What specifically are they heretical ABOUT? Empty accuasations are hardly the way we are called to speak about the leadership of our Church.
So why would Pope Francis leave out the best defenders of marriage from the synod? Isn’t that like benching your best players and instead putting backups into the lineup?
Let me ask again, which Bishops and Cardinals are you accusing Pope Saint John Paul and Pope Emeritus Benedict of appointing?
‘Your Fellow Catholic’ you merely want the Church to approve the mortal sin of homosexual acts.
This is very important for people to understand.
Pray for the Pope and the Synod.
Some Bishops want to support / condone these mortal sins – under the pretense of being “Pastoral” etc.
They will assist in sending Souls to Hell if successful.
You have the correct definition of heresy, but your misapplication of it is of some concern.
Anonymous, pay attention. What don’t you understand about the following DOCTRINE of the FAITH ?
Regarding Homosexual Acts –
SACRED SCRIPTURE: Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7.
CCC: 2357, 2358, 2359, & 2396.
There is no mis-application of this MORTAL SIN. And it is heretical to teach and practice or condone or approve any Mortal Sins by Cardinals or Bishops.
God bless Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone. We pray that all church exorcists gather and pray for our church and all its leadership. Today it is our church militants, our lay faithful and faithful priests warriors that are truly faithful to the magesterium that fight the good fight. Regardless of what spiritual battles or exclusions we face, it is God who has the last word, He is the Alpha and the Omega. Our faithfulness is defined by Jesus, not by people. Lets pray and fast to remove the veil off of our bad willed leadership and pray that God empower His warriors. Praise be Jesus Christ! God help and bless our Pope. We pray for him to be faithful. Its in God’s hands and no matter what never leave your eyes off of Jesus. Always keep Jesus…
“Lets pray and fast to remove the veil off of “our” bad willed leadership and pray that God empower His warriors.” = The Vicar of Christ on Earth recently empowered the SSPX warriors to hear confessions in the name of mercy.
Obama has worked very hard to alienate our nation’s greatest allies. Let us also pray to enlighten… or when necessary expose the enabling water carriers for bad willed leadership. Abeca, you have also worked very hard to name call and alienate warriors who ARE allies in fighting the good fight. You should not be following the very bad example of Obama. Thank you, Bishop Morlino for your charitable apology and teaching example. continued……….
Some folks, Catherine, are only convinced when they “see”. That is why there is the hue and cry against the “bad willed leadership” of today. There is no engaging logical thought and understanding to grasp the reality that bad willed leadership has been an ongoing entity throughout Church history.
That is why the banner of “I am a VII faithful” is touted around as if the Church began with VII. And while that may be a rallying vehicle for some parishes, it is anathema to understanding the ongoing crisis in the Church. That is why those like Abeca are unable to fight the good fight in toto.
Would that all stopped carrying water for anyone but Christ. And, yes, thank you Bishop Morlino for correcting the error that has…
SSPX warriors?
When you think about it, is there any stupider reason to go to hell than schism.
It is just pride-the sin of the devil.
It is the pride of the devil to attempt to paint others as schismatics or in schism when they are no such thing. Shame on you, Anonymous. You really need to stay on top of what the Church teaches instead of listening to Satan.
Your pride could lead you straight to Hell, dragging myriad souls who believe themselves righteous along with you for company.
Ann Malley, Thank you for posting on CCD. The anonymous trolls are threatened at the thought of any type of reconciliation with the SSPX. Yes, there are canonical irregularities that need to be worked out but Pope Francis would have never given faculties to hear confession to those who would lead others away from truth. Pope Francis would have never given faculties to hear confession to those who are outside the Church. I agree with Cardinal Burke that a reconciliation would be a great gift to the Church and that is because our faithful Cardinals and Bishops see the goodness that our these change agents reject.
…it’s not only the anonymous trolls who are threatened, Catherine, but those who still operate by way of human respect and harbor the need to feel themselves superior within the Church.
They forget that, “…there but for the grace of God go I,” and seek to hammer others as if others have not received similar graces to gird up and do what He asks of them.
These are the kinds who staunchly say that they would resist any October mandates that would undermine the Sacrament of marriage – no matter how “Official” only to forget that it is just such an act of conscience that they use to berate others. (You know, the I-stand-with-Cardinal-Burke crowd…. who don’t really understand the depth of what is occurring.)
For while…
…the PETEs and Abecas use the full communion stick to eschew others, (we have the precious pearls…. I smelled the roses) they will be eschewed when the mandate is to confess sins against “charity” that involve nothing more than speaking the truth about homosexual sexual relations and the sins of adultery. It will no longer be, “…who am I to judge,” but rather, “…who am I to speak anything.”
That is why Bishop Schneider made the assessment he did and advises the PETEs and Abecas etc to cease and desist, to wake up and to look to the true enemy. But this is all part of the process, Catherine. And all must play their part.
Thank you for your kindness and clear sight.
Abeca Christian,
That was all well said. In the end, the actual enemy that we’re fighting is spiritual. And to fight this enemy requires spiritual weapons such as prayer and fasting. Also, if the Pope were to actually degrade the Church, we know that God would certainly bring about a greater good (i.e. When Satan inspired the Jews to kill Christ, did that actually destroy the Reign of God?)
Lastly, I admit this looks bad. But, in truth, we don’t know the reason why AB Cordileone was not selected. Maybe he declined because of the demands of his own diocese (SF is most difficult).
Steve Seitz thank you. I agree with you. God bless you.
It was NOT necessary for the Pope to appoint anyone opposed to the Bible and the Doctrine of the Faith – on sexually moral matters – adultery, homosexual acts, fornication, and contraception.
And who also want to advance Sacrilege – receiving Holy Communion while still choosing to live a sinful lifestyle.
The Remnant Newspaper – BOMBSHELL: Bishop Morlino Apologizes to the SSPX
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2002-bombshell-bishop-morlino-apologizes-to-the-sspx
“Please understand that we at The Remnant are not here claiming that Bishop Robert Morlino is offering his full endorsement of the SSPX. He is not, which only adds to the gravity of his monumental apology. In other words, he believes that there certainly are problems with the SSPX canonical status, and therefore one might expect a man in his position to claim they’re somehow outside of the Church and to be avoided.” continued……
Of course, Catherine, because you dare to speak the truth about what Providence has confirmed – true mercy – then you’ll be undermined. But you’re used to that. Makes you strong and just more confident that you’re speaking the truth.
God bless!
Bishop Morlino apologized for ONE sentence in the letter.
https://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/09/bp-morlino-d-madison-on-ewtn-talks-about-sspx/
After Dec. 8 SSPX priests will be able to absolve sins due to a special grace given to them by Pope Francis. They still cannot be witnesses for marriages.
The Pope recognized the need of the Church to exercise mercy. That doesn’t mean that the Church isn’t already supplying that mercy, Anonymous. Quite the contrary.
The Bishop reiterates in the video and his message that ordinarily, SSPX has no faculties convey the sacraments of reconciliation or matrimony.
The only exception to that general rule is that the Roman Pontiff has used his Ordinary authority to grant faculties to hear confessions for the Year of Jubilee. But not for marriages and not beyond the term of the Jubilee Year.
Nobody is saying the jurisdiction is ordinary, YFC. But rather that jurisdiction is supplied directly by the Church in the state of necessity – even a necessity that isn’t formally declared. Some may not want to take what they consider a risk in seeking such, but others gratefully welcome the avenue provided by the Holy Ghost via the Church supplying.
No. You are lying. These are suspended priests. They are not permitted to say Mass or hear confessions or anything. The Church supplies them with nothing. The Act of Mercy that the Pope has granted for the year of Mercy is for the misled sheep who attend their chapels who normally confess to them thinking they are getting absolution.
OK< Ann Malley, show us a Church issued or approved source that says that suspended priests with no faculties can absolve sins.
Once again, Ann Malley vaguely refers to the situation ecclesia supplet. As I have explained before, and supplied evidence before, there is no life-threatening emergency that requires a penitent to seek out a priest who does not have faculties to hear confessions or recognize marriages. SSPX priests do not find themselves on an island devoid of fresh water in which the penitents have no recourse to a priest with faculties. No, they have free will to approach a priest with faculties to hear their valid confessions. So ecclesia supplet in her case does not supply.
Once again, Anonymous and YFC ban together to deny canon law. As for my situation, you have no idea about whether or not ecclesia supplet applies – for as we’ve clearly demonstrated here on CCD one cannot be assured of the orthodoxy of prelates. And while the absolution given by such compromised clerics is absolutely valid, it is also a just and valid cause to steer clear of such pastors when seeking the cleansing of one’s soul. In other words, one doesn’t seek a bath from one who is convinced that filthy is really clean.
So while “all” the water may not be poisoned, a good deal are, leaving penitents to have to sift through what their pastors say/do. Might not be a time of crisis for you, YFC, but I have responsibilities for…
continued…
” But instead Bishop Morlino refers to them as “another priestly society” made up of “very fine people trying to act in good faith” and apologizes for having ever suggested that Catholics need to stay away from them. What we have here is a mainstream Catholic bishop insisting that the SSPX, despite a certain canonical irregularity, is in the Church and not in schism. This is HUGE! “
It is not HUGE. SSPX Masses and Sacraments are NOT valid AND licit. ONLY a POPE can declare otherwise. For mercy for the Souls of those who have been going to SSPX Confessions that have no ability to forgive sins – – – Pope Francis said: I establish that those who during the Holy Year of Mercy approach these priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X to celebrate the Sacrament of Reconciliation shall validly and licitly receive the absolution of their sins.” Pope Francis – Sept 1, 2015
Except during this one year – going to Confession to the SSPX is like going to Confession to your next door neighbor. It means nothing.
TED B, = BTW, Ted B-undy never showed mercy either.
It is obvious that you/PETE are so very threatened by the mercy that has been given during the Holy Year of Mercy.
Their Masses are valid but not licit.
Anonymous, your fixation of valid but not licit is fascinating. The masses of St. Athanasius by similar logic were not ‘licit’. Not sure if you’re the same Anonymous, but try to remember that Cal Catholic Daily is a serious website.
St. Athansius said illicit Masses? What?
Ted, I’m not a fan of SSPX and their impetuous attempts to create a new autocephalous Rite within the Catholic Church. But I do think it is important to state accurately what their situation is: Their masses and most of their sacraments ARE valid. Baptisms, confirmations, even ordinations. And while the ordinations result in immediate suspensions of the man ordained, the ordinations are, oddly enough, valid. However, the marriages and the confessions by SSPX priests are not valid because validity in those cases requires faculties given by the local Ordinary. We should all celebrate that the Bishop of Rome, as the Ordinary minister over all the Church, is granting faculties for SSPX to hear confessions validly during the Jubilee Year of…
YFC – The SSPX holds NO Ministry within the Catholic Church, until and unless a Pope says so.
Therefore (other than Confession for the Year of Mercy only) their Sacraments and Masses are NOT VALID and LICIT – within the Catholic Church. If you have any official Church documents stating otherwise, please provide a link.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html
MEL, Thank you for repeating and capitalizing. Your only message, however, is that you do not know/understand what is being discussed. And there are many who would be happy to keep you such a position.
Ted B, the Church is in grave crisis. If you cannot see that, then good on ya. As for your next door neighbor, you may be better served considering the malformation of clerics who have the proper jurisdiction. For to go to confession to a validly licensed priest these days is to take one’s chances on not being absolved because the subject matter discussed is too often labeled as not sinful.
You may be disposed to allow your children into a face-to-face encounter with such shepherds, but others are not. And while others may deign that there is “no crisis” because that is what they have been told, others know better….. and act accordingly. And I thank God Almighty that He has empowered the Church to supply, for She surely does.
Ann Malley, please tell us a source that proves your contention.
Anonymous, the fruits are the source that proves my contention. Or are you going to state that Our Lord had no authority by which to instruct His sheep to look to the fruits?
As to that, friend, you have my prayers for it would seem that should your house ever catch on fire, you’d allow yourself and your children to burn for lack of official documentation that there was/is a fire in your home. But sorry, the paperwork from the insurance company payout or the obituary in the Times will have come too late.
Thankfully Holy Mother Church provides by way of canon law and the promise of the Holy Ghost to provide in case of necessity. And She does!
Ann Malley is like the catholic version of Sarah Palin: ” the fruits are the source that proves my contention.”
Uh WHAT?
Intriguing distraction. Sarah Palin? Not sure how that applies, YFC, save to say you had no legitimate response. But then your fellow change-agents work that way, saying “Huh?” to anything remotely biblical or smacking too close to the actual teachings of Holy Mother Church.
Thank you AGAIN for posting. You are one steady Eddie if nothing else.
In other words, YOU MADE IT UP!
AnnMalley, while I sympathize with you in your faith crisis, it does not appear that you are really striving to be faithful. It appears that you get your jollies from poking faithful Catholics in the eye and then calling them names or deriding them when they say ouch.
Get your stuff together. Your lack of understanding of the faith seems to be intentional.
Yes, there is a crisis in the Church, it is the lack of attendance and lack of belief in the Church of Catholic laity. You are among those we pray for. The crisis in the Church is not Vatican II or the Mass or a lack of fidelity from the hierarchy.
Dear MIss South Carolina: Let me explain for Ms Sarah Ann Malley Palin: Stringing together words does not necessarily make for a coherent sentence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
But then again, the fruits are the source that proves my contention.
….well, Anonymous, you’re part way there. A lack of fidelity from the hierarchy. That’s a crisis, friend, considering they are in the driver’s seat. And they were in the driver’s seat at VII. And the gross lack of catechesis of the laity didn’t happen in a vacuum either. Much like the machinations at the October Synod’s aren’t happening by magic.
So while you attribute reality checks to jollies, you deny yourself understanding. And understanding is a critical part of problem solving. That is the only reason to explain YFC’s distraction of Sarah Palin and incoherent sentences.
But then he is a fruit of ambiguity, that is one who advocates against the teachings of the Catholic Church while still asserting his fidelity…
Thank you once again, YFC, for demonstrating so colorfully the state of crisis at work within the Church. Your posts are invaluable!
Ann Malley, your main heresy is that there is an invisible Church composed of believers. Believers in what? You don’t say. You imply that it is the True Teaching of the Church , but the True Teaching of the Church includes infallibly that there is a visible Church and that it is the Catholic Church in union with the Pope.
If you attended a Mass that was approved by the Church, and believed this, you would be a heretic but not a schismatic. Since you declared that you would never attend an “Novus Ordo” Mass held in a Catholic Church, you are a schismatic as well as a heretic.
You are most welcome to conform your beliefs to the Church’s True Teaching anytime you choose.
There is no lack of fidelity in the hierarchy. Unambiguously.
Nothing schismatic or heretical about steering clear of the Novus Ordo Missae, Anonymous. As to the rest, I could tell you to shun your belief in little green men. What? Never said you ascribed to a belief in little green men? That’s your problem. Much like your problem with anything I write.
God bless you just the same, friend. Perhaps someday the scales will fall from your eyes, but then you have to want them to fall. Your choice.
I am willing for any scales to fall from my eyes.
Are you now claiming that the Catholic Church is only those parishes established by legitimate Bishops that are in union with the Pope?
Whether steering clear of the Novus Ordo Mass is heretical or schismatic depends on why you are doing it.
If you just like the TLM better and are attending a licit Mass then there is nothing wrong with that.
Not attending Mass is a mortal sin.
….you need to take your issues up with the Vatican, friend, for you are at odds with them and canon law as it applies outside your limited view. That is no doubt why you erroneously assert heresy with legitimate inquiry and opposition.
Catherine, do you believe that any Clergy have more authority than a Pope ?
Personal opinions (even of Clergy) carry no authority.
Nothing the SSPX does is valid and licit – unless a Pope says otherwise. The SSPX holds no ministry within the Catholic Church.
Pope Francis felt sorry for the laity that they have lead astray, and in the year of mercy only said the SSPX could forgive sins – validly & licitly.
“Catherine, do you believe that any Clergy have more authority than a Pope?” = No, those are your words, PETE!
PETE then tries this one. “Pope Francis *felt sorry for the laity that they have lead astray*, and in the year of mercy only said the SSPX could forgive sins – validly & licitly.” = Post the link to document that uses those words. “felt sorry for the laity that they have led astray”
PETE, your opinion carries no weight but it’s obvious that you are very threatened and also divisive. PETE, If anyone asks for an example of *selective mercy* then they will validly be directed to your transparent post.
PETE, do you think that the Pope can turn the Catholic Church into a vehicle to teach anything he pleases? The answer is no. What you’re under is the delusion of papal positivism. That’s not Catholic, friend, but rather the Reader’s Digest Condensed Version of what Protestants purport constitutes as being Catholic – that is, whatever the Pope says goes.
Sorry, but that’s just not true. For if what you propose was true, then the Pope could do anything he pleases, to include blessing bestiality as marriage.
Wake up friend.
…you do not understand the application of the Catholic Faith, Anonymous. That is why your calling heretic and schismatic is nothing but a misfire. God bless you for your zeal, however misguided. You do serve a purpose.
PETE your words are correct. They are truths precious pearls even if they lack the ability to comprehend them. Those that are faithful to the Magesterium, who remain faithful to Christ and His church have the authority to speak what the church teaches. Heretics and schismatics have a place too, a special warning from the saints, whom have given their warnings regarding them.
And PETE’s divisiveness and deceptive mercy are confirmed by Abeca Christian….. for heretics and schismatics do have a special warning, that is why one shouldn’t toss around such terms without proper authority and/or understanding as PETE and Abeca like to do. And all because they like to believe themselves as a special case in holding the precious pearl. (IOW: Beware the paste.)
It is high time Catholic learn about the magiserium’s need to be faithful to itself instead of being led down the path of contradiction being okay as long as one has a hall pass from someone in “authority”. Good grief.
God bless our Pope. God bless Christ’s church. God’s will be done.
Finally, we’re on the same wavelength, Abeca. Couldn’t agree more :)
I am sick of this person who does not believe the Catholic Faith, does not go to a Catholic church criticizing the faithful. . No person in the hierarchy, not even the Pope, is going to lead us astray and none of them are trying to. And none of us need an official declaration to figure out that this person is a heretic and a schismatic.
Pete’s words are not entirely correct. There is a difference between being valid and being licit, and some SSPX sacraments are both valid and licit, while others are valid and illicit, and still others are invalid and illicit.
It’s complicated I know! But it is important to speak correctly, as I am sure PETE and Abeca will agree.
…what you’re sick of, Anonymous, is being made to think and back up your absurd blindness with what the Church actually teaches. Since you do not know, you cry foul and run for the cover of calling names.
But yours is an important part in this ongoing play – much like at the Crucifixion there were those who believed themselves holy and justified crying for blood and going along with the crowd. Why? Because they were sick and fearful of criticism by those with the authority to throw them out of the temple.
God bless you for playing your part.
And there were those who ran away.
Ann Malley, see. You can never back up your beliefs with anything from the Catholic Church. (Because they are not Catholic.) All you can do is rail against people who are faithful, hurl insults, and make stuff up.
Where did you get this new idea? I imagine you just made IT up, too.
I beg you to please LEARN the CATHOLIC FAITH. I leave it to you whether you do or not. We can’t teach you it in 750 word bites.
….and there were those who fled to the hills. And thank God. As for begging, you may want to beg for understanding. For even without a word limit, you would be wholly at a loss to teach that which you do not understand. Pray for that gift of the Holy Ghost,friend, and it will be given so long as you intentions are pure.
God bless and be well.
Ann Malley, if you learn the Catholic Faith and you conform your thoughts to it’s teachings, you will not be called heretic or schismatic. This is not name calling. It is calling out error. It is calling out rebellion These are sins that bring a soul to eternal damnation.
Nobody is trying to be mean to you. People are just trying to wake you up before it is too late. You are not going to get to say at death “Oh now I get it. Can I come in?” You have to do that before you die. Your errors are not small. They have been corrected many times and you obstinately persist in your sins.
Can we who sit in the pews and provide financial support for the Church protest Cordeleone’s exclusion by Pope Francis? Is there any other way to stop financial support of Pope Francis? I did not donate to Peter’s Pence this year and won’t in the future. I would like to see Cordeleone become a cardinal. Pope Francis has aligned himself with the liberals and global warming leftists and plans to meet with the pro-abortion, anti-Christian, pro-Muslim Obama. What’s next?
Excuse me: do you think the Holy Church of God is some “democracy” in which you get to “vote” by giving money or not, like some pampered matron?
Do you see Archbishop Cordileone attacking the Holy Father, even though they have different views on SOME issues???
You have lost a healthy sense of what it means to be Catholic if you think you can be a “cafeteria Catholic” and only support the Holy Father if he never rattles your cage – Jesus rattled many a cage, and Pope Francis is HIS Vicar on Earth.
The time has come for the Roman Curia to oust this Pope he is destroying what is left of the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church and YES I JUST SAID THIS, BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TOO!!!!
Hysteria, pure hysteria…
Janek,
The Curia could get rid of him, but Francis would still be the Pope.
Pope Francis wants to leave his mark on Catholic Divorce. Also on anti-Capitalsm, Global Warming, Muslim immigration, Cuban Communism and so much more.
I have been wondering, if there is a procedure, in which the College of Cardinals could ever terminate a Pope’s reign— for particularly good reasons, according to Canon Law?? Pope (emeritis) Benedict XVI terminated his reign, due to his age and illness. I wonder– how BAD must a Pope be, to get terminated, from the Papacy?? And if we are just stuck with Pope Francis– I wonder, how long his reign will be?? He will soon be age 80. In good health (which everyone deserves!) — could he live another 15 years?? Is this God’s plan?? Well, best to forget it, as this is in God’s hands!
……Who says Pope Francis is “bad”—who are you to judge, especially when reading liberal media?
The Holy Spirit appointed him the Vicar of Christ……He knows what He is doing–.Let God be the judge.
No, a Pope is a Pope for life, unless he chooses to resign of his own free will.
In the history of the Church, only 3 Popes have resigned.
Of the 267 Popes, there have been 12 really bad ones documented by the Church.
How I wish the Church would GET SERIOUS about Faith and Morals! That is the whole problem! The Church just wants to toss Christ aside, for false popularity, with the ignorant and sinful secular world! No one in the Church’s leadership, is truly serious, about the Catholic Sacrament of Marriage! The world suffers so greatly, from this poor leadership! I am so sorry, for the good work, UNRECOGNIZED BY A STUPID PAPACY– that Archbishop Cordileone has tried to do! The whole world is desperately in need of a universally strong Catholic (and Christian!) Marriage and Family!!
Right on!
Yes, between one man and one woman in the Catholic Church as a Sacrament.
One more thing. Christian Marriage and Family, is the very core of all Western Civilization, as well as the core of our Church! It is the center of all life, in Christianized nations, and far beyond!! A ridiculous, uncivilized, undisciplined, lawless, immoral, immature “hippie” country— is on the verge of total collapse!
The Illegitimate Pope: Election of Jorge Bergoglio as Pope Francis was contaminated by lobbying in violation of papal laws
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/09/12/the-illegitimate-pope-election-of-jorge-bergoglio-as-pope-francis-was-contaminated-by-lobbying-in-violation-of-papal-laws/
Last year, when Cardinal Dolan reported to the USCCB about the Synod, he denied any tension among the bishops and portrayed the gathering as one big happy event and not two simmering Synods. He attended only one synod he cracked delighted with himself at delivering a bold joyful message even if it was bunk.
This year, with signs like the exclusion of Cordeleone , I am prepared for rupture. I think it is God’s punishment on his Church. Let us remain faithful to Christ, His Church, His Mother, His faithful bishops.
Cardinal Wuerl also denied the tension at the 2014 Synod. I was watching the Bishops’ conference on EWTN.
Wuerl and Dolan both lied to the other Bishops.
…this is why Ted B. we are well aware that there is an ongoing crisis within the Church. For Wuerl and Dolan, at least from what you’ve written, are compromised. So while they may have normal jurisdiction to absolve, their faculties in other areas are suspect – that is what do they tell folks in the confessional constitutes a sin? What kind of advice would they give in the confines of the Sacrament to the impressionable, weak, faltering?
(Catholics are not required to submit themselves to scandal to receive sacraments. That’s not how Mother Church works in normal times.)
That said, I wouldn’t trust them. And I wouldn’t, in good conscience, be able to trust any under their authority/jurisdiction as those beneath them follow…
… the orders received from up the chain. So you see, the Church can and does supply in times of crisis. This is why mincing legalities when souls are at stake is absurd.
First. onging crisis is a contradiction in terms.
Second, there is a crisis in the Church because lay people do not accept the Church’s teaching, not in the teaching itself.
Third, Cardinal Wuerl and Dolan are not compromised.
Fourth, jurisidiction has nothing to do with absolution.
Keep water carrying for those in authority who want to auto-destruct the Church, friend. You’ll get your just reward.
Fifith, faculties cannot be suspect. You either have faculties granted by a bishop or you don’t.
Sixth, faculties would not be suspect, even if a penitent was misled in confession.
Seventh, you have no reason to suspect or to malign these two men. It is very sinful for you to do so.
Eighth, the Catholic Church does not supply suspended priests with the power to absolve, except in the circumstance of impending death. Pope Francis is extending this during the year of Mercy. which begins Dec 8.
Again, Anonymous, faculties are not suspect when one relies on the Church supplying in such an obvious state of crisis within the Church. That is to rely on the mercy of God. Something which we all must do, especially when looking to prelates such as +Wuerl and +Dolan.
You can opt for the letter of the law and a twisted spirit. But I do not have that liberty as God has given me charge of others for whom I am held responsible. And if I couldn’t entrust those mentioned above with catechizing my children, I most assuredly could not entrust my children to those prelates in the confines of private confession.
Common sense. God does not contradict Himself.
John 15:5
If an organization does not wish to push a change, it does not begin a discussion. If it begins a discussion, it is pushing a change, and it invites those who support its agenda and excludes those who do not, so that the change be effected. Much of the leadership voices in the church have been retired or transferred out in the last 2 years. The new leadership promotes the change. It will be the same very soon with priests in the parishes as it already is in diocesan structures.
Father Rich,
Where are we going to wind up? Hopefully the end times come soon. I await the perousia eagerly.
“Much of the leadership voices in the church have been retired or transferred out in the last 2 years.” (Or told to ‘shut up.) Yes, I’ve been told to ‘shut up’, especially when I mention Satan and his activities with regard to the destruction of humankind and the Church.
” He is the source of every form of evil: sin, illness, suffering, and death.” – An Exorcist, More Stories by Fr. Gabrille Amorth, Ignatius Press, pp. 37-42
“The evil that surrounds us today, the disorders that plague our society, man[kind’s] inconsistency and brokenness, are not only the results of original sin, but also the results of Satan’s pervasive and dark action.” John Paul II, May 24, 1987, Sanctuary of St. Michael the Archangel
“We must…
Me too, Deacon, but what have you got to lose? You’re not going anywhere in an ecclesiastical career. Your only destination is heaven, so speak God’s truth.
CCC: ” 2467 Man tends by nature toward the truth.
He is obliged to honor and bear witness to it:
It is in accordance with their dignity that all men, because they are persons . . . are both impelled by their nature and bound by a moral obligation to seek the truth, especially religious truth.
They are also bound to adhere to the truth once they come to know it and direct their whole lives in accordance with the demands of truth.”
Excellent insights, Father, into what appears to be precisely the case. Thank you for your thoughts in this matter. These are distressing times in the Church, and it is hard to know what to think about where this could be going . . . and so much of it seems to be cause for real concern.
Father, our pope does not seem to speak about the transcendence that Pope Benedict wrote so often about in his books and encyclicals. I think it is a must to understand that the spiritual component of our faith, the life of the soul as influenced by God (or by the devil), is the most important component of our salvation. Pope Francis seems to be all about the Jesuit pursuit of a liberal understanding of social justice, which precludes the whole Cross, reduces it to the removal of suffering instead of the appreciation of it. Although I do not see Pope Francis as an intellectual, it is still possible for him to be overtaken by the modern habits of the order of the Society of Jesus.
(cont’d) It is the overly intellectual ideologues, the champions of social justice, who populate one corner of the Church and it is from this population that comes the elevation of pride, the desire to serve as one’s own god. I do find that many of the priests in the Jesuit order are of this background, completely filled with a lofty but disordered view of themselves and the creature. It does not seem to them that the glory is God’s. It is more of a humanist intellectualism, a glorification of the creature instead of the Creator. Perhaps it is Jesus’ promise that the gates of hell will not prevail, that keeps our current successor of Peter from completely crossing the line.
This is disappointing news. I want to give the Pope the benefit of the doubt but at this point, I am keeping myself fully informed on what the Pope is doing by reading reliable Catholic news sources.
I am also praying to the Holy Spirit for understanding, patience and discernment.
If there is a problem with this Pope on Church teachings, it will be revealed in time and then we must work together as a Church in following our Lord and speaking what is only true.
Read as much as you can and pray. The Holy Spirit will open your mind and heart to what is true, good, and beautiful.
We must stick to the Bible and the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition” for TRUTH.
In these times we cannot be without these books.
“Popes come, Popes go, Church Stays, We stick.”
“My sheep know my voice!” Let all of us listen with our hearts, minds and souls to the Voice of Christ. His Word is the food for our Etrenall Life! He got onto the Cross was for the purpose of saving our Souls. To stay away from His Word will not give us His gift of Salvation, to be with Him in Eternity! No matter who the perosn might be, even if he is the pope, if his words and deeds are away from what Jesus gives to us, we must throw that away and pray for those who are Confused! Listen with our HEARTS to the Voice of Jesus ONLY! Archbishop Cordillleolne is with the Voice of Jesus. Let us pray for him and follow his lead! May the Lord Our God bless him and grant him greater wisdom and judgment! Amen!
“Jerome Jerry Reiter · Author at Writers Write
In fairness to the Pope, Bishop Salvatore Cardileone is the only bishop to be arrested and plead guilty lately. Google “Cordileone male companion” and read the oped news article”
And your point is…
The “”sins” of Abp. Cordileone pale in comparison to the sins of others who occupy high office in our Church. A DUI is NOT a mortal sin, abortion,homosexual abuse of children, gay “marriage” etc. ARE!
HM…. JJ’s point is not the DUI, but rather that their was another man young priest, seminarian of college student in the car as well as his mom. JJ’s Google link leads to wild speculation that this shows the Bishop had some kind of a sexual relationship with the guy. Fr. Farrow who suggusted it on his blog was being very irresponsible. As for the DUI, I know some priests would tell you it IS a mortal sin.
HOWEVER … I say again …. He didn’t get stopped for weaving all over the road, but at a check point. It’s likely he really had just “one too many” He cooperated with the police and accepted the court’s punishment. THe End
He was leaving his mother’s house after dinner.
NO, Anonymous, he was not leaving his mother’s house after dinner. Why would his mother have been in the car with him while he was driving home??
And your point is…
The “”sins” of Abp. Cordileone pale in comparison to the sins of others who occupy high office in our Church. A DUI is NOT a mortal sin, abortion,homosexual abuse of children, gay “marriage” etc. ARE!
CCC2290: “Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.”
Sorry YFC your smear attempt isn’t working…in morally bankrupt work I am positive you believe false Bishops like Weakland are living saints.
There is no one without sin – including the Pope.
The Heretics (using Church definition) who teach falsely against Sacred Scripture and the CCC – help send Souls to Hell for Eternity.
The Pope has appointed some HERETICS to the Synod.
Jesus said they are “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.
….that’s why your assertion that going to confession with a Society priest being tantamount to confessing to one’s next door neighbor is ridiculous. Not that jurisdiction isn’t important. It is. But as you have illustrated above, there are those with jurisdiction who promote heresy within the Church, and likely within the confessional, friend. So what you propose is rather a catch-22. This is precisely why the Church supplies in times of crisis – and it’s becoming increasingly clear why there would be no “official” declaration of such a crisis. Isn’t it?
No personal fault of the priest prevents absolution.
SSPX priests can absolve sins starting Dec 8 .
And prior to December 8th, friend. For the Vatican has confirmed those confessions made to the Society that require notification to Rome. Just because you haven’t been made aware of these realities doesn’t mean they don’t exist, friend.
And absolutely not, no personal fault of the priest prevents absolution. But what can prevent absolution in today’s crisis is having priests with the “power” to absolve telling penitents that their sins are not sins.
I’m not subjecting myself or my children to such nonsense. You can make your own call.
Confessions that require notification to Rome?
Like child sexual abuse by priests?
Now what are you talking about?
Do your priests break the seal of confession?
….again with the tomfoolery, Anonymous(s). Try doing your own homework so that others can get to the business of serious discussion.
Ann Malley does her best to confuse and confound the issues. Confessions made to SSPX priests are not valid except during the Year of Jubilee. Period. Ann Malley’s private opinion, notwithstanding.
And back to Cordileone: Endangering the lives of others by driving while under the influence is in deed a “grave guilt”. Objectively. That doesn’t mean that he cannot be forgiven, but as of today, it is not clear that he has sought forgiveness for that sin. And has never admitted lying about the young priest in the car with him, let alone confessing THAT sin.
By their fruits you shall know them … Matthew 7: 16-20. I believe it is important to not these scriptures when trying to understand what is happening in regards to the Synod on the Family as well, the back grounds of many of those chosen to the College of Cardinals!
By their fruits you shall know them … Matthew 7: 16-20. I believe it is important to note these scriptures when trying to understand what is happening in regards to the Synod on the Family as well, the back grounds of many of those chosen to the College of Cardinals!
Maybe the Vatican found out that Abp. Cordileone has been hanging out with Sr. Jeannine Grammick and the New Way Ministry crowd–whose “ministry” has been condemned by the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life.
https://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/building-bridges-with-archbishop-cordileone/
Remember that Jesus “hung out” with “crowds” considered much more unsavory than Sr. Grammick et. al.
But did Jesus get them an audience with the Pope? ;)
That is one of the most ridiculous questions I have read all year long.
Yes, St. Peter was there.
And Jesus always told them to REPENT, to go sin no more.
He was a teacher – and did not condone mortal sin of any kind at any time.
Jesus said to “go and sin no more”.
Jesus never condoned sin of any kind,
and was always the teacher – pointing out sins, teaching the requirement for repentance, and having a purpose of amendment.
I believe he met with them once. He doesn’t “hang out” with them.
The less that truth be required of the believer, the more he becomes an non believer
Thank you, Father Perozich!
Broadmindedness, when it means indifference to right and wrong, eventually ends in a hatred of what is right.” ― Fulton J. Sheen, Life of Christ
For truth read a Catholic Bible, and the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition”.
I doubt seriously that he was singled out for exclusion.
The other men share his position on marriage and family and some are stronger than he on them.
I don’t think it is because he has listened to gay groups, either.
I think there was just so many places. Did they need two bishops from California?
Sad to see so many allegations and speculation of a cruel and judgmental nature. The pope is trying to show the loving face of Jesus to the church and the world. Let’s focus on the love of Christ and remember: Jesus paid the price for every sin – past, present and future. He saved us. We have so much to be grateful for. If your heart is filled with angry, judgmental thoughts, feel free to contradict my post. Otherwise, may the love of our Lord and grace, mercy and peace be with you.
Beautiful!
The Catholic Church didn’t have these problems in 1959!
The Catholic church has not changed. The media coverage and civil government’s legal system did.
I’m sure Fr. Perozich can offer his opinion about the doings in the southern half of the state, but certainly in the north the Lavender Mafia and progressives in general have been emboldened under the reign of Francis. I have priest-friends in all the northern dioceses and we all observe the same thing. What little caution the Left in the Church exhibited under Benedict is gone, long gone.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
I am saddened by these disparaging remarks. I pray every day that our Eternal Father will keep his arms around Pope Francis and will guide his way. I also pray that Pope Francis listen to the Holy Spirit. Let’s stop all this ‘gossip’ and name calling and let God lead His church.
Popes are not without sin. Even St. Peter sinned.
In the history of the Church, we have had 12 bad Popes including the Borgia who fathered Lucrezia and others.
God never promised that ALL Popes will get to Heaven.
We do know that one of Christ’s chosen 12, Judas Iscariot (the son of perdition), is in Hell because it is in the Bible. Jn 17:12.
Anne, let’s do let God use the means He chooses to guide His Church. St. Paul spoke out against the actions of St. Peter, the first Pope, in public. It was by God’s hand that Balaam’s ass spoke to correct his master. And it is perhaps by means of faithful Catholic parents and the priests/religious that shepherd them that God will provide.
Turning a blind eye and pretending ignorance under the auspices of not gossiping is a ruse. One that gave us a grand pedophile problem within the Church. Would that the flock had spoken out and spoken out more clearly and SOONER in addition to those clerics under “obedience” who saw the sin and said nothing.
Let us all stop being milksops, saddened and reacting with effeminacy to that…
…. which poses grave danger to the Faith of our fathers and the souls of our children – that is God’s children.
Now is the time to pluck up one’s Faith and COURAGE to drive out that which is evil, not tolerate and ignore. And that, Anne, may be precisely the means that Our Lord uses to protect His Church. (That’s who He promised to protect against the Gates of Hell…..not individual prelates.)
We NEED our Pope to teach on the SEXUAL IMMORALITY, and also ABORTION that is Destroying human society and the family. – ADULTERY, FORNICATION, HOMOSEXUAL ACTS, CONTRACEPTION, PORNOGRAPHY;
and ABORTION which is the murder of innocent human beings for the convenience of others; and on the lack of catechesis.
We do NOT need the Pope’s PERSONAL Opinions on climate change, giving more power to the United Nations, illegal immigration, economics and the re-distribution of wealth, or politics.
Sorry the Holy Father’s statements on poverty annoy your comfy life.
Here’s what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says:
“2443 God blesses those who come to the aid of the poor and rebukes those who turn away from them: “Give to him who begs from you, do not refuse him who would borrow from you”; “you received without pay, give without pay.” It is by what they have done for the poor that Jesus Christ will recognize his chosen ones. When “the poor have the good news preached to them,” it is the sign of Christ’s presence.”
Illegal immigration is a Trojan Horse being rolled across our borders by the global elites to hasten the bankruptcy and ruin of this country. After that happens who will help the poor which will then include you and me? Socialism equalizes 99.9% of society at the lowest common denominator of existence. The elite controllers remain. That’s what’s going on. The U.S. is 19 trillion dollars in debt, and precisely because it is as bad a money manager as exists on the planet. If we want to increase out debt load to take in hoards who come only because they think they are going to get something for nothing, we deserve what inevitably will become of us. This isn’t about charity, it’s about stupidity.
In addition to the 8 Americans: the 4 delegates elected by the US bishops –
J. Kurtz, C. Chaput, J. Gomez and D. DiNardo;
& 4 PAPAL APPOINTEES: T. Dolan, D. Wuerl, B.Cupich, and G. V. Murry –
here is the complete list including the POPE’s other Appointees under:
“XI. PONTIFICAL APPOINTMENTS” https://www.visnews-en.blogspot.com/2015/09/participants-in-14th-ordinary-general.html
Yes, there are some Heretics (using Church definition) appointed by the Pope. See for yourself. We have a duty to speak the TRUTH.
OUR LADY of AKITA said on Oct.13, 1973:
” The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops.
The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres…churches and altars sacked;
the Church will be full of those who accept compromises
and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.”
https://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/AKITA.HTM
Let us then be grateful that at least Arch-Bishop Charles Chaput will be one of the principal delegates.
For those who do not know this Wise and Principled Leader of the Faithful, may I suggest a reading of his fine writing in his highly informative, relevant and timely book:
SEE
Render Unto Caesar:
Serving the Nation by Living Our Catholic Beliefs in Political Life
By Arch-Bishop Charles Chaput – OFM (Doubleday, 2008)
These Archbishops are not as they appear. People need to wake up to the depth of corruption in the Church:
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/what-does-abp.-chaput-know
Dave N – I read the linked story and thanks for the info. Arch-Bishop Chaput’s book “Render Unto Caesar” seeks to deal with the same type issues as Jesus did with the Pharisees trying to trap him on paying Caesar’s Tax.
We live in a land with an Imperial Dictator (pen & phone style) who Despises the Church and with his Gaystapo Thought Police want to Destroy it BAMN – By Any Means Necessary. This Abomination may be Evil – but it is Still Caesar in a suit and tie, and must be dealt with somehow – or resisted unto Martyrdom.
Mistakes will be made – but Intentions Must Be Clear, and I hope Chaput’s Book contained the clarity needed to understand the Threat & at least one type Response
Either you believe the gates of hell will not prevail or you don’t. The holy father has certainly got people talking and eyes on the church. Satan is always gunning for the good ones like Archbishop Cordileone. We don’t know the big picture like God does. Maybe God is protecting Archbishop Cordileone with this over sight. Trust and obey. Stay safe inside the barque of Peter. Know the catechism. Things are going to get much worse in this world. At some point a great apostacy must occur. Now? A thousand years from now? Only God knows. He has overcome the world and simply, we must remain faithful, trust as if everything depends on God and work and pray as if everything depends on us. Be of good cheer and let us live as if we believe…
An excellent post, Anonymous. A most excellent post.
May God bless and keep both Pope Francis and Archbishop Cordileone in His holy will. May they do HIs holy bidding in spite of those who try to drive a wedge between them.
If you have not seen the full list, you should see the many heretics appointed by Pope Francis as VOTING members of the Oct Synod.
Look under: ” XI. PONTIFICAL APPOINTMENTS”
https://www.visnews-en.blogspot.com/2015/09/participants-in-14th-ordinary-general.html
Some of these guys are public heretics and notorious.
If Francis cannot bring those within the Church on-board, how can he hope to convince the laity?
Perhaps, Ffrancis invites all voices in the Church in the hope of convincing all to pull together.
Unity can be accomplished by everyone (including laity) reading the Bible and the CCC at home.
” …. The Church’s catechesis has traditionally been structured around these four elements; this includes the CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, which is a fundamental aid for that Unitary Act with which the Church communicates the entire content of her faith: “all that she herself is, and all that she believes”. “ – Pope Francis (Encyclical Letter LUMEN FIDEI, 2013)
Whatever happened to Cardinal Oulett who was a good friend of Pope Emeritus Benedict and who was awesome in recommending new Bishops and Cardinals to then Holy Father Benedict.
Pray for Holy Father Francis and all the Bishops and Cardinals and Priests!!!
You know the Evil One just LOVES to get one of them in his claws.
I believe in the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church . Yesterday our priest was saying during Mass that lay people(I’m paraphrasing) that we were selfish and self centered at what is going on in this world. Somehow it didn’t sit well with me and then it hit me that a lot of what’s going on in the world would not be happening if the church was obedient to Our Lady Of Fatima and consecrate Russia . Russia has spread her errors around the world. I now realized that how the clergy disobedience has a lot of what’s going on . It’s true that the devil has entered the temple.
What is the WORLD does Russia have to do with your selfishness?
Forget about “consecrating Russia” (which has its own thriving Russian Orthodox Church, thank you very much) and consecrate your own heart, mind and hands to doing the work of the Lord Jesus:
2445 Love for the poor is incompatible with immoderate love of riches or their selfish use: CCC “Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure for the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out;…
There were warnings about Russia would spread her errors. The connections from then and now are obvious if want to see the truth in the spiritual realm. The priest was talking about the migration in Europe and saying if we don’t help we are selfish ,etc. Our Lady told the clergy to consecrate Russia to Her and look what Russia is doing on the world stage . I know we are in the very last days and that is my concern and all I can do is pray and ask God for His Love and Mercy and Forgiveness we are in a heap of trouble. Even though you think Fatima is not connected and yet all the things that has happen and will happen all has a connection to Fatima. Look at the world the spirit of deception and corruption is there for the world to see…
San Francisco archbishop blasts gender transitions as threat to faith
https://www.religionnews.com/2015/06/03/san-francisco-archbishop-blasts-gender-transitions-threat-faith/
“The clear biological fact is that a human being is born either male or female,” Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco said at the start of an address…
“Yet now we have the idea gaining acceptance that biological sex and one’s personal gender identity can be at variance with each other, with more and more gender identities being invented,” said Cordileone, who is the point man in the battle against (FOR) Marriage for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Cordileone said a friend recently pointed out to him that a major university advertised…
Archbishop Cordileone is a nice, loving Catholic man, but simple.
He says each person is born male or female, and that’s that: but the truth is, some people are born with both female & male organs, and the surgeon tells the parents to authorize an operation and thus make a choice for this infant, which might turn out to be the WRONG choice.
He also says that each child deserves a mom and a dad, but we don’t get to choose this either. I am the product of a single father, who raised us kids after Mom died of cancer, and that was out lot in life. Thanks be to God, Dad was loving and strong and good.
Anonymous, Archbishop Cordileone I am sure knows about the exceptions. They are rare, but have to be dealt with compassionately, and I am sure he knows that. That is not about which he and Our Lord Jesus, who said quite plainly that God created them male and female, were and are talking. Neither are we. Common sense has to be used. Almost everyone has a physical defect of some sort or another that is not normal, and saying it is just not being truthful. We need to get passed being so sensitive.
Less than half of American children under the age of 18 live in homes with two married heterosexual parents in their first marriage.
35% of American children live in single parent homes.
Anne T., I hope Archbishop Cordileone, in his heart, knows that he should be compassionate towards trans people. However, I don’t know a single trans person or friend of trans people, who believe that the Archbishop has actually acted compassionately, especially when he was making fun of them in the speech described in the link that Mr. McDermott shared. Making jokes about people and their situation in life, in public, is hardly a show of compassion.
I am a bit shocked at some of the postings on this string. And, I am offended by some others as well. Pope Francis is our Pope. He is the Vicar of Christ on Earth, the leader of our Church. He is also one of the most influential people on earth. We should not call him by his first name, or his last name. We should not be condemning every statement he makes, but we should be trying to figure out what he is saying, why he says it and what it means for our journey to Christ. We should also understand that he comes from a very different perspective than we here in the U.S.. He is a Jesuit, who teach by asking wide open questions for us to ponder to see how we will resolve the issues.
We need, I believe, to recognize that this Pope is out to change the world, and change the Church. You can’t do that by doing the same things as in the past. It would be helpful if we understood as well that he is trying to find ways to teach the faith in different ways. He has been a strong advocate for basic Church teachings on abortion, same sex marriage, etc. He has never faltered. But he is faced with a Curia that is entrenched in their palaces and who don’t want to upset the money cart or their positions of power. It needs a good cleaning out. I believe Pope Francis is a good man trying to good things.
Pope Francis is not anti-capitalist, but he is anti-greed at the expense of the poor and unfettered accumulation of wealth by the few. His views on the environment, his teachings are all in the Bible and the CCC. He needs our prayers, not our bickering.
Wrong Bob One, Francis is an egoist and a South American Marxist, my belief was confirmed the the second he accepted that blasphemous crucifix in the shape of the hammer and sickle from the president of Bolivia. Change, Change, Change,, this is what the Left has always been about, tear down destroy and replace with your own twisted ideas.. Like you Bob One Francis condemns poverty and in the same breath condemns the one system that has lifted millions out of it. He also likes to condemn those who through their own work and industry have managed to avoid it.
There you go again, Canisius! Name one thing the Pope has said that is not right out of the Church’s teachings. You are upset because he doesn’t support an economic system in which only a few gain outrageous wealth at the expense of others. Read this Sunday’s Epistle from St. James:”Come now, you rich, weep and wail over your impending miseries… Behold, the wages you withheld from the workers … their cries have reached the easrs of the Lord of hosts” We are our brother’s keepers or we are not Catholic. Pope Francis has come out against all of the “essentials”. He has torn down nothing!
“…You are upset because he doesn’t support an economic system in which only a few gain outrageous wealth at the expense of others.”
Whatever system you’re describing, Bob One, it isn’t capitalism. As to that, the system you seem to defame is in fact the very one which has allowed for the advancement of more “poor” to the upper echelon of financial success than any other.
Yes, there can be abuses. Any agency comprised of people make that unavoidable. But the pipe dream of Communism and/or Socialist utopias are precisely that – pipe dreams. And there isn’t a nationwide legalization of marijuana – yet. So, sorry, but you’ll have to sell the anti-capitalism screed elsewhere.
Canisius does not accept the Gospel. Ann Malley does not accept the Church.
Bob One your ignorance is staggering I guess you favor a system that has brought such prosperity to places like Cuba and Venezuela It wasn’t welfare that created the middle class.
Pope Francis Doesn’t Understand Economics & Capitalism: Judge Napolitano
https://youtu.be/ByGOhJxn_5Q
Unlike you Bob One I believe in brutal self reliance,, not the welfare state…refuse all help and figure it out yourself.
Anon I do not accept leftist interpretations of the Gospel
That’s right there I go again with facts that Leftist like you do not like.
Even if you are correct, the world will process what he says only in one way: the institution of global socialism as the basis for world government and the elimination of nations. Regardless, the elite will maintain their power and wealth as in every other socialist system in history, and will only oppress a greater number. This of course setting the stage for the rule of antichrist who will rule over every “nation, tongue and creed” per St. John’s Book of Revelation. These forces need to be opposed, not assisted.
Bob One, Bergoglio barely mentioned abortion once by name in any of his speeches while here in the US
Yes Pope Francis comes from ARGENTINA – this is his world view.
The Pope needs to know that his own perspective on economy, politics and science are merely his own opinions.
He needs to separate out Doctrine of the Faith from personal opinions when speaking in public.
NO pope can override the Teachings of Christ. The present pope has vocally denied more than 50 TRUTHS in our Catechism n Tradition. A grp of Spanish priests along w American priests have a website: Denzinger-Bergolio that compares his rhetoric w Tradition. Please go to this website n also read The Prophecy of St. Francis when he was near death so u can understand the time we r in!! And PRAY more than u ever have!!
Archbishop Cordileone was arrested for drunk driving about three years ago, on his way back home from a dinner party in San Diego (with his mom and a German priest in the car).
Cardinal Levada was arrested in Hawaii for drunk driving just a couple of weeks ago, coming back from a restaurant.
HOW CAN YOU PREACH HOLINESS and yet drink and drive???
It can kill people, like that Bishop in Arizona!!
A car can be a dangerous weapon of death, especially in the hands of a drunk driver!!
Okay, Archbishop Cordileone had some wine and then was driving his mother home: but he did NOT kill anyone!!!!
We are not Mormons, and we are not Southern Baptists: we Catholics think alcohol is okay, and we even see it as necessary for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
We are Catholics, and we believe as the Catechism teaches, that to endanger others, by driving while under the influence, is gravely sinful. No one has to be injured or killed for it to be sinful, it just makes the tragedy of the sin all that much greater.
He topped off his sin by lieing to the Press about who was in the car with him.
Dear Fan,
The fact that Archbishop Cordileone did not kill or maim anybody while driving drunk, after “several glasses of wine” (and I’m quoting his mother here, when she spoke to reporters on her front porch), is sheer luck.
He knowingly broke the law, put his mother’s life, and the lives of others, in danger, and thus set a very bad example for our young people.
Anon I’m sure you are a big fan of the sodomite Weakland.
SAN FRANCISCO, September 23, 2015 (ChurchMilitant.com) – Father Jack McClure, a Bay Area priest, has been barred from offering Mass at his parish after participating in a women’s pseudo-ordination event.
Father McClure has been a leader at Most Holy Redeemer parish in San Francisco, a parish popular with dissident, pro-LGBT Catholics. He’s also been in the process of moving to a community of the Precious Blood Fathers in Berkeley.
This past Saturday, Fr. McClure joined three inactive priests — who have been excommunicated, dismissed or forced to resign — on a panel for the Women’s Ordination Worldwide 2015 conference.
Two days later, Fr. McClure found out he won’t be allowed to offer Mass at Most Holy Redeemer after September…
San Francisco’s Abp. Salvatore Cordileone, whose secretary apparently broke the news of his punishment to the pastor of Most Holy Redeemer, gave a statement on Monday night. “I’m very pleased with the pastoral care that Fr. McClure gave to the community at Most Holy Redeemer,” he said, “and also that he has the opportunity to serve his order’s Berkeley Community nearby.”
Nevertheless, Fr. McClure doesn’t seem to have changed his views. He’s opting to play the victim in the whole affair, construing the punishment as an oppressive form of “silencing.”
“I feel bad about this. I feel bad for the parish. I feel bad about this silencing,” he said following the decision. “But I want to make it known I appreciate the…
If you watched the papal Mass yesterday, Archbishop Cordileone was front and center. Saw him more than anyone except Archbishop Kurtz.