Archbishop Cordileone points out connection to aborted fetuses:
“The increased availability of Covid-19 vaccines is already having a welcome effect in reducing the spread of this virus. I encourage everyone to be vaccinated in consultation with their physician.
“The first available vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) have been determined to be morally acceptable. The newer Johnson & Johnson vaccine, however, is more morally compromised in that stem cells from a line deriving from an aborted fetus were used in its manufacture, not only in testing.
“As noted by the chairmen of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Committee on Doctrine and Committee on Pro-Life Activities, ‘The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has judged that “when ethically irreproachable Covid-19 vaccines are not available … it is morally acceptable to receive Covid-19 vaccines that have used cell lines from aborted fetuses in their research and production process.” 1 However, if one can choose among equally safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines, the vaccine with the least connection to abortion-derived cell lines should be chosen. Therefore, if one has the ability to choose a vaccine, Pfizer or Moderna’s vaccines should be chosen over Johnson & Johnson’s.’”
The above comes from a March 4 release from the Archdiocese of San Francisco.
San Diego’s Bishop Robert McElroy statement makes no moral distinctions:
“Because we live in a complicated world, Catholic moral teaching is often highly complex and nuanced in its reasoning about how to navigate the issues of balancing good and evil in confronting ethical choices.
“But on the concrete moral and pastoral question of receiving the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson or Astra-Zeneca vaccines, I want to make clear to the Catholic communities of San Diego and Imperial Counties that in the current pandemic moment, with limited vaccine options available to achieve healing for our nation and our world, it is entirely morally legitimate to receive any of these four vaccines, and to recognize, as Pope Francis has noted, that in receiving them we are truly showing love for our neighbor and our God.”
The above comes from a Diocese of San Diego release.
Codeleone and McElroy need to get on the same page. Or is what is ‘kosher’ in one city not in the other?
Bishop McElroy needs to get on the “same page” as the rest of the US bishops, who issued a statement virtually identical to Archbishop Cordileone’s.
More importantly, Bishop McElroy should conform to all of Catholic moral teaching.
Maybe he is following the German bishops in thinking they can come up with their own “Catholic” moral theology and practice.
Want to engage in adultery or sodomy and still receive Holy Communion, then, maybe it’s okay if you’re in San Diego or Imperial counties (but not in Orange or LA counties)!
This isn’t Catholic Faith. It’s Fiefdom Faith or the new “synodal path” of Cafeteria Catholicism.
You may have to move to commit the sins of your choice.
But, don’t worry, no one will judge you
(unless your sins are on the list of evils as judged by the woke elite).
A good call by the Archbishop. At this time and probably through the spring, those who are vulnerable (and I am a schoolteacher with an 85-year-old father) have to get what they can get. After that, there is less and less justification for using the more morally compromised vaccines.
Bishop McElroy in his Church of What’s Happening Now.
Just like in one diocese divorced and civilly remarried Catholics may receive Communion but across the diocesan border they may not. It’s either right everywhere or it’s wrong everywhere. McElroy is not a nuanced nor sophisticated thinker. He’s a fraud. When will lay Catholics and other bishops have the courage to call McElroy out on his errors?
Why in McElroy’s “complicated world” is “highly complex and nuanced” Catholic moral teaching always a departure from Catholic morality and faith? Hmmm?? He and Fr. Jimmy Martin and others in the same mold always find “nuanced” ways to circumvent Catholic morality. Why? Hmmm??
Because Bishop McElroy’s teaching doesn’t depart from or circumvent Catholic morality and faith.
At worst, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is remote material cooperation with evil, and indeed if you look at the circumstances, is extremely remote. It is distanced in time (by decades) and place (by thousands of miles) from the initial evil act, and in no way condones or promotes further evil acts. Catholic moral teaching is clear that this is permissible when it results in good and alternatives are difficult. When we live in a world with a virus ravaging us, and the life-saving vaccines are in short supply, that is exactly where we are. I think the statement by the Holy Father, by Archbishop Cordileone, and Bishop McElroy are actually all saying the same thing in different ways.
We shouldn’t be guilt tripping people who merely want to save a life or two or two thousand.
Catholic teaching is also clear that same-sex genital acts are always immoral, are intrinsically disordered, and may never be approved. Do you likewise affirm that truth of Catholic doctrine and morality? I’ll take silence or evasion as a no.
What has that got to do with anything we are talking about. Yes or no!
So you chose evasion.
True to form, YFC evades.
It looks to me like comments that were here before are now missing?
My comment was removed. It obviously hit a raw nerve with someone’s attorney.
Just wait until a “morally vaccine” is available. Or another alternative that is being developed. Stay safe
Amen!
Why get vaccinated at all against something with a 98.7% survival rate?
Since “we live in a complicated world, Catholic moral teaching is often highly complex and nuanced in its reasoning about how to navigate the issues of balancing good and evil in confronting ethical choices,” is it okay to discriminate against those of other races, build a border wall, ignore the poor, pay employees substandard wages and expose them to hazardous materials?
If not, Bishop McElroy, why do you apply that “logic” only to matters related to sex (abortion, gay sex, “re-marrying” while still married and receiving Holy Communion, etc.)?
If the Johnson and Johnson vaccines is compromised because of its use in abortion cells, then what else is ‘compromised?’ I mean, is it wrong for me to buy from companies that support lgbt, abortion, make use of exploitation of the poor, etc? Is it now wrong for me to order from Amazon because it supports lgbtism? I don’t get why the vaccine is singled out, when there are SO many ways a catholic can “remotely cooperate” with evil in his daily life, and all of this seems to be ignored or not considered in discussions about cooperation with evil… seriously I need answer quick. I’m thinking about getting the vaccine and I would rather get the J&J one because it only has one dose, and more importantly doesn’t have the myocarditis side effects of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. If it isn’t wrong for me to patronize companies with problematic donation list or which creates sinful items in addition to licit items, it shouldn’t be wrong for me to get the J&J vaccines, even if I have the choice to get Moderna or Pfizer.