Like many Californians, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone was watching the Supreme Court Wednesday as it heard arguments in a Mississippi case that abortion rights advocates say could lead to the procedure becoming virtually illegal in as many as 26 states.
But unlike 77% of Californians — including 59% of Republicans — Cordileone opposes the landmark 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling that guaranteed the right to an abortion. He wants abortion to be illegal in all cases, in accordance with the church’s teachings.
Take off the masks, go back to normal. Whover gets it gets it. That’s the only way to get herd immunity: forced exposure. No forced vaccines. Just whoever gets it gets it and then with herd immunity it goes away. Easy.
My advice is not to take advice from someone who does not care if you live or die.
It is not the role of a bishop to be in step with the world. No matter how many take the wide road to hell, all disciples of Jesus should be stepping in the other direction, inviting all to join us. The good (arch-)bishop is an outsider as far as powerful political, business and media elites are concerned. Yet, like all of us followers of Jesus, he wants to be inside the wedding banquet of the Lamb of God, Jesus, on the Last Day and bring many others with him. (See Matt. 22:1-14 and 25:1-13.) An outsider today may well be the ultimate insider for all eternity. As Chesterton reminds us, “The Church always seems to be behind the times, when it is really beyond the times; it is waiting till the last fad shall have seen its last summer. It keeps the key of a permanent virtue.” May God continue to bless, strengthen, guide and protect the archbishop.
Well said, Deacon Anderson.
Thank you so much for your words of Catholic fidelity, Deacon Craig.
Bless our good Abp. Cordileone. Today, Dec. 3, there were some interesting articles in LifeSiteNews, one in particular caught my eye. This news story was in regards to a private audience that then-Cdl. Ratzinger held with a couple of priests, in the year 2003, in which he explained, that he considered SSPX founder, Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, “to be the most important bishop of the 20th century, of the universal church.” I will go back and read this interesting article again. Very strange, you couldn’t have two more extremely different popes, one right after the other– than Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis. What a shame, if Pope Francis eventually destroys the Fraternity of St. Peter, and Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest– among the Pope’s other tragic “doings”… in the sadly misguided name of “unity.”
I take strong exception to this commenter’s words “if Pope Francis eventually destroys the FSSP….the Institute….” Please. The beloved FSSP, the beloved Institute of Christ the King, and the other former “Ecclesia Dei” communities will destroy themselves if they do not unite themselves more fully to the Successor of St. Peter and to the rest of the Church. The times we’re living in are not the times to be flirting at the margins/outskirts of the Church. There is a reason why a lot of people are bashing on the Pope these days, and it’s sinister, demonic. This is the “smoke of Satan” of which the saintly Pope Paul VI referred to: doubting the Church, science, among other things. It is the Devil’s aim to scatter the Church and to separate the sheep from the shepherd. Nope, these are the times to be even more in union with the Church, and with the universal Pastor that the Holy Spirit chose. You people just aren’t aware of how detrimental your anti-Francis sentiments are because many here have been dissenting for years. Repent.
No, jon. Different popes have different beliefs on things The next pope may be a true Catholic Pope, with similar beliefs to Pope Benedict, a far better Pope than Pope Francis. And no, the FSSP and Institute of Christ the King were founded under Pope St. John Paul II, for the purpose of saying the beautiful old Tridentine Latin Mass. The 1969 Mass is only one out of many. The Byzantine Eastern Catholic clerics are never required to learn to say the 1969 Novus Ordo Mass– nor the Tridentine Latin Mass. Yet, they are in union with Rome.
“Interesting”, you have to “come down to earth”, and realize that the priests of the beloved Institute of Christ the King, of the beloved FSSP, and of the other Ecclesia Dei communities are all priests of the Roman Rite. And the Roman Rite has one unique expression which is the Mass and other sacramental rites of Paul VI. The priests of the other Catholic Rites do not have to offer the Roman Rite, because, (hello!) they are not priests of the Roman Rite. John Paul II did not approve the Constitution of the beloved FSSP and Institute at the exclusion of the Mass of Paul VI, nor as a way of repudiating the Second Vatican Council..
No, jon. Couldn’t care less, you waste your time.
It is interesting to me that those who propose the TLM as the true Mass show so little in the way of understanding, knowledge, wisdom, fortitude, piety, fear of the Lord and counsel.
I realize that this is a very small, tiny sample of those who attend the TLM so I do not want to generalize onto all who attend.
It is really just phenomenal. I could speculate on why-such as that they are in mortal sin, not from attending the TLM of course but because of something else. Pride blocks grace so maybe it is that. Perhaps trusting in an untrustworthy influence.
It is honestly just stunning.
And “Interesting” it is very unlikely that Pope Benedict would have described Lefebvre–who died excommunicated and therefore is now in perdition–as “the most important bishop of the 20th Century.” That’s laughable.
Sorry, bgs, nobody cares what you think. And nobody here is promoting any form of the Mass. I appreciate all ancient forms of the Mass. And so what? Nobody here, including you, is qualified theologically, on matters of religion.
I read sone interesting news stories today, about some of the top Greek Orthodox clerics as well as priests, who stated that Pope Francis is a “heretic,” and should not come to Greece for an official Papal visit. Instead, he must repent, and embrace the true Faith. Some of them wrote letters expressing their concerns, prior to the Papal visit. One elderly Greek Orthodox priest in the crowd even shouted three times, in Greek, as the Pope entered, that he is a “heretic” and must “repent.” And the police took him away and got him to quiet down.
So “More” didn’t you know that the Orthodox have been calling Catholics including the Pope “heretics” for centuries beginning on the year 1053? And you need not feel jubilant whenever someone disses Pope Francis.
Greek Orthodox clerics have thought Popes were heretics since about the year 1000 AD.
Of course, the Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches had their big split in 1054, and both Pope Francis and Pope St. John Paul II have apologized for any harm done in the past, to the Greek Orthodox. The Greek Orthodox have had a lot of tensions towards the Roman Catholic Church, for centuries. Our two branches of Christendom are similar in some ways, yet very different. But there are too many heresies and scandals in today’s Catholic Church., which the Greek Orthodox object to, also.
Of course, it could just be ignorance, even culpable ignorance. Or it could be immaturity. It can take decades and even then, like Thomas Aquinas said all that he wrote was straw, we do not have a clue about Who God Is.
It could be a spiritual blindness from acedia or just because they never were corrected. It could also be from a inconsistent prayer life.
You should have read the entire Bible, the entire Catechism and have a good prayerbook. You can’t just read them once. You need to make it a habit to read the Word of God regularly. Pray the rosary daily. Make sure you understand the Latin Mass-or as much as you can.
You know the 4 ends of the Mass, right? You have a good examination of conscience?
Everyone has blind spots, heresies, holes in their education- you got to keep at it.
God cares what I think. And he cares how you treat me.
There used to be sedevacantists and sedeprivationists who posted here. They were wrong and they were misled but they knew what they believed and they at least knew the Catholic Faith well enough to support their views. Some of them formed their views before the Internet existed. They were wrong and they were schismatics and God have mercy on them.
People who don’t know the Faith are misled even more easily than these. Please educate yourselves.
You can read the Bible and the Catechism and go to Mass and pray the Rosary and still not really know the Faith. It really takes a lot of work. You will know enough to get through most days and make your life decisions until you don’t.
It happens to everyone-that is why we have confession.
oh, boy– it is important not to lump all commenters together into one overly-simplified group.
We take strong exception with your insufferable pontificating
To “Interesting” and “bohemond”: if you people who only go to the Mass of John XXIII (that’s the TLM for you unchurched out there) had heeded the admonitions of people like me who were warning you people for years about your dissentious attitudes, your irreverence to the Magisterium, and your disobedience, it’s very unlikely that Pope Francis would have written his “Traditionis custodes.” Instead, you people did not listen, but rather mocked and disregarded our words, and so this motu propio was a result of the very attitude that “Interesting” and “bohemond” are displaying here, folks. And if they persist in this divisive attitude against the Church, I fear that the consequence may be dire for people like them. Just remember the words of Our Lord: “What little they have will be taken away from them” (Matt. 13:12). Be warned, people.
jon, nobody cares what Mass you attend. I am involved with all types of Masses. Your views are a total waste of time.
WOW folks: “your views are a waste of time,” writes “Interesting.” If a Catholic is bold enough to unjustly lambast the Pope (any pope) publicly, respect for anyone (especially those he/she disagrees with) and just common decency just go out the window.
And “Interesting”, there are folks who care that there are people like you who denigrate the Holy Father unjustly and publicly. There are folks who care that there are people like you who disseminate falsehoods such as that Pope Benedict praised Lefebvre. “Interesting”, there are folks out there who care to know the truth.
jon were the Faithful who opposed the Arians being “divisive” ? And don’t worry about my consequences I will give you the words of St Joan of Arc. If I am in a state of grace may God keep me in it and if I am not may God lead me to it.
I am not Jon but obviously, the Arians were divisive and they were successful. The faithful joined them in great numbers. The Church-Popes and bishops opposed them. Always stick with the Pope.
We’re not talking about the Arians nor about Athanasius. We’re talking about the disobedient, dissentful Catholics who are falling into the wiles of the Evil One who wish to divide the Church by using the beautiful Mass of John XXIII as a means to register dissent against Vatican II; we’re talking about those who unjustly accuse the Holy Father of “heresy.”
I read this article. I think it may be distorted. Anonymous sources. Taken out of context. No attempt to verify. Pope Benedict XVI has a spokesman that they could contact.
Then instead of leaving it at that-for whatever it is worth-the article descends into Archbishops Schnieder and Vigano’s opinons on the SSPX.
So it is very obviously not an objective piece which makes it important for those who want their opinions echoed. For everyone else, it is just sort of an opinion which is not very well supported.
Is one to assume his rebellion is the reason he is important? It does mention his years in Africa. The Holy Ghost Fathers were very important to the Church in Africa and as such, to the universal Church.
We need a lot more information and fleshing out of what Cardinal Ratzinger said in 2003 and why he said it.
I’ve read this article too. It’s obviously another effort to rehabilitate the excommunicate Lefebvre. It has been a common tactic by the beloved SSPX and their minions out there for decades: put out positive misinformation about Lefebvre and at the same time falsely call Bugnini a Freemason, and Pope Francis a heretic. Pope Paul VI got tired of them, and I honestly believe that Lefebvre and his minions were part of the “smoke of Satan” that he referred to. Lefebvre has sown doubt and mistrust for the Church.
job and bgs, don’t waste time writing useless, ignorant replies to people whom you do not know. Both of you are full of your own egoism and prejudices, and a bunch of nonsense.
Interesting that you changed his name to job. Says it all.
Have a nice peaceful Advent.
The people who are truly full of egoism, prejudice, and nonsense are those who unjustly attack the Pope and his bishops, and who belittle the Sacraments of the Church in the Ordinary Form. I mean how truly egotistical and prideful is that? Thinking oneself more knowledgeable about the faith than the Magisterium.
Nobody is attacking the Pope, jon. People like you mindlessly attack anyone at all, whom you do not know, and never shall meet, for absolutely ridiculous reasons. Nobody is “attacking the pope.”
It is too bad that this got ugly.
There are a lot of constraints on Catholics. Obviously, as humans, we can do whatever we want, but, as Catholics, we don’t. Maybe our reasons are well thought out or maybe we are still at a reactive phase. If you take the 10 Commandments as the list of no-nos, that would still leave a lot of things that you could do. So the Catholic Church spells out sins that fall under the heart of the law as well as the letter of the law.
Then there are the sins that nobody but Catholics thinks are sins and those are the disobedience to the Church or to those in the positions of authority in the Church. These fall under the 4 Marks of the Church. The Church is One. The Church is Holy. The Church is Catholic. The Church is Apostolic. Eating meat on Fridays of Lent is a mortal sin because you are not doing what the Church is doing. You are a member that is not doing what the head is telling you to do. For a bishop to disobey the Pope is extremely grave. We are to be of one mind and heart. Pope Francis is not a heretic. If you are going to a website that undermines your confidence in him, stop. You are going astray. Live the Faith with confidence. Pray over things. Stick with the Church no matter what.
bgs– You forget. When we see horrific sins occuring, and horrific incidents— God calls us to try to do what we can, to “right the
wrongs.” At least, sign an “anti-Planned Parenthood fundraiser” petition. or “anti-Fr. James Martin lecture” petition, on a Catholic college campus. And attend the accompanying rallies. Or whatever is possible, that we can do. Then, we have to let go of it, place it in God’s hands. We have done what we could.
Falsely accusing that the Pope has committed “‘tragic “doings’… in the sadly misguided name of ‘unity'” is definitely not something we should do as Catholics, “Interesting.” Plus, suggesting obliquely that the “next pope may be true Catholic” casts aspersions, if not lodge an attack, on the present one. Both things Catholics are not to do.
Interesting…Wow…that was a pivot.
cd, that was an interesting article. I am not a Lefebvre follower. However, I do think he had something worthwhile to say. After reading his biography and watching a film on his life, many years ago, he seemed to me to be an honest, gentle, devout soul, with a spirituality based on St. Thomas Aquinas, raised in a devout French Catholic family. He became a renowned teacher of the Faith, as a missionary for the Holy Ghost Fathers, in Africa. A participant at Vatican II, Abp. Lefebvre suddenly decided to return to the honest, devout, traditional practice of the Faith of his Fathers of 2,000 years, upon witnessing horrific abuses occurring in the post-Conciliar Church, which worried him greatly.
It is tragic, that many top clerics in the post-Conciliar years– such as Mahony, Marcial Maciel, McCarrick, etc. — have turned out to be extremely corrupt, even criminals– yet, have been highly praised and rewarded, by recent popes. “Wolves in sheep’s clothing.” And it seems so wrong, the poor, authentic, persecuted Chinese Catholics, and Cardinal Zen– strangely abandoned by the Vatican, for the evil Communists, and their fake “church,” in China. We simply do not truly know, what goes on in the Vatican. Perhaps someday, a future pope will apologize for the Lefebvre situation, and clear his name, as in the mistaken case of St. Joan of Arc. Many things are a mystery.
As far as we know, he died in schism, in mortal sin. So for me the lesson is, as it has been in the Catholic Church for 2000 years, anyone can fall. Pray for the Pope, for bishops, for priests. Pray for those in mortal sin.
We are not to judge.
cd, that is the best that any of us can do, pray for everyone, and not judge.
“Interesting,” let me put things in proper perspective for you: Lefebvre died excommunicated. Unless he repented of his grave transgression before he died, his soul is in perdition. He was not, and is not, a model to follow. He was the genuine “wolf in sheep’s clothing,” by leading poor Catholics to the sacraments that are illicitly and unlawfully offered, thereby putting their salvation at risk. What this man Lefebvre has done to thousands of Catholic lay people is therefore an abomination.
No, jon. Don’t waste your time.
if the church erred in its judgment of excommunication then Lefebvre is in heaven even if he died excommunicated/not because it was a wrongful judgment that God would set right in heaven
“If”: how could the Church have erred in the matter of Lefebvre’s excommunication since his disobedience is plain and flagrant and straightforward: he ordained bishops without the Supreme Pontiff’s permission. Even a child knows not to disobey one’s parents. Plus, the continued separation of the beloved SPPX from the Church is due to doctrinal reasons–doctrinal. That means faith and morals. That means their non-adherence to the Council. And the Church does not err on matters of faith and morals.
And “If”, because the Church is guarded by the Holy Spirit from error concerning teachings of faith and morals, Our Lord therefore says to the Apostles and to those who would succeed them: “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven,” meaning, that the judgements of the Church (such as Lefebvre’s excommunication) is also enforced in the next life.
If the Church erred…Canon law states: “A bishop who consecrates some one a bishop without a pontifical mandate and the person who receives the consecration from him incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See.” Canon 1382
He knew that. (And yes, he received the same penalty that someone who procures an abortion receives.)
The Congregation of Bishops and Pope John Paul II declared the ordination of the 4 bishops a schismatic act. They reiterated that all involved were excommunicated.
To state that if it erred in its judgement of excommunication, it is not possible. The law is the law. To state that he is in heaven, why would he be? Even if he had done nothing wrong, you do not have the authority to declare that someone is in Heaven.
You are making serious errors from your lack of understanding. And your wishful thinking. And maybe (?) your bigotry against the Church?
it must have been terrilbe news to jon when the excommunication was lifted by BXVI
“bohemond” is wrong. The excommunication was not lifted by Pope Benedict for Lefebvre. The poor soul remains excommunicated and in perdition. The effort to “rehabilitate” Lefebvre by printing all sorts of fawning stories or features about him is pathetic, honestly. These puff-pieces are propagating lies. Lies. Sometimes, unverified assertions. For example, in one puff-piece I read: that the Church recognizes the beloved SSPX’s sacraments as valid and licit. Wrong. The Pope has only recognized their absolutions as valid, plus they can offer the nuptial Mass (with a priest in union with Rome still required to witness the exchange of vows). This is the typical tactic of the beloved SSPX: they falsely overstate things, especially things that they can misconstrue to their advantage. Pathetic.
bohemond, they are still in mortal sin. They are still suspended.
Jon, Martin Luther was excommunicated also, yet Pope Francis brought into the Vatican a statue of Luther. That is what is so confusing about this pope. Why would he do such a thing since Luther was excommunicated? Luther did not believe in statues either. He was basically an iconoclast. The whole thing is just weird.
I once had a Catholic tell me that they thought Martin Luther was a saint. This is that same kind of error.
Right. For people like Anne TE, the Holy Father’s graciousness and magnanimity will always be confusing. Because of their upside-down thinking, they will alway be confounded by the Catholic Pope’s desire to build bridges.
Anne TE, the Vatican also issued a special stamp, with Martin Luther and his chief theologian on it, to commemorate the 500th Anniversary of the Protestant Reformation. Well, perhaps this is better than the “Pachamama idols” scandal. I think the Reformation Anniversary stamp was inappropriate. Nevertheless, there were devout, brave, dedicated German Lutherans executed by Hitler, during WWII, including Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I loved his books, such as “The Cost Of Discipleship,” and others. No one can possibly say that Christian martyrs like Bonhoeffer are not close to God in Heaven.
The Catholic Church has made many big mistakes since its inception. And we often see the Church later making big apologies for its blunders. A famous case is poor Gallileo, sentenced by the Roman Inquisition to life imprisonment for his scientific findings. Later, the Church cleared his name. I believe Abp. Lefebvre’s name will likewise be cleared someday. Long before Abp. Lefebvre, Cdl. Alfredo Ottaviani, the head of the Holy Office (later re-named the CDF) under Pope St. John XXIII — was opposed to Vatican II, from its inception. Abp. Sheen told some hilarious stories about that. And where will faithless, evil Churchmen like McCarrick, Mahony, etc. end up? God have mercy on their souls! Despite “human errors,” in various situations, historically– Catholic teaching in the Catechism is correct. But not many in the Church today, follow it.
It is a common tactic of folks like “Yes” to belittle the disobedience of Lefebvre and at the same time bring in the faults of McCarrick and Maciel, as if what Lefebvre did is more “forgivable” and his name be cleared in the future. Let me tell you people, especially “Yes”, as heinous as McCarrick’s and Maciel’s sins are, Lefebvre’s sins and disobedience I reckon will be far more difficult to erase and amend in him, because Lefebvre most likely died thinking he was correct and in the right. The pride in that is therefore more profound and stubborn.
It doesn’t matter what “jon” thinks. There are Catholic prelates and priests who have died with erroneous or heretical beliefs, honored by the Church. No doubt, Fr. James Martin, S.J., a papal favorite, will die un-excommunicated, despite spreading daily, erroneous and immoral, dissident LGBT beliefs. Cdl. Mahony will die un-excommunicated, after spreading his erroneous, heretical beliefs regarding the Holy Eucharist– plus, many other evils which he did. That’s just for a start.
The Church has expressed forgiveness, goodwill, and reconciliation in tragic cases of excommunication and execution of historical figures. In 2015, Pope Francis made a big speech during a ceremony in Prague, Czech Republic, seeking forgiveness and reconciliation regarding the tragic excommunication and burning at the stake of Church reforner Jan Hus, in 1415. This does not mean a theological agreement with the historical figure– just seeking of forgiveness and reconciliation. The same could possibly happen someday, regarding the case of Abp. Lefebvre. The excommunications of the four bishops ordained by Lefebvre were lifted in 2009, by Pope Benedict.
Please tell us what Catholic prelates and priests who have died with heretical beliefs have been honored by the Church. Honored how? Also , please link to Fr. Martin’s dissident beliefs and Cdl Mahoney’s heretical beliefs on the Holy Eucharist.
If you can’t find links on Mahoney, please just tell us what his heretical beliefs were.
“Very rarely does someone asymptomatic spread the virus”
I think the opposite it true.
The rule of thumb we use is that you start shedding the virus 24-48 hours after getting it. You may not show symptoms until 5-14 days.
So we do not go around a vulnerable person after 2 days from an event like a wedding or funeral or church or concert and then give it a week unless we have a negative test.
The archbishop rightly says it is not a true vaccine, and that it does not give immunity. He does not mention, in this article, that it is made, or tested on, aborted baby cells.But, he is concerned that poor countries should have better access to it. Wow.
And this apparently represents the strongest opposition to the vaccine from the episcopacy. It is no wonder that the vast majority of catholics in this country can get no backing from bishops on religious exemptions to the abortion tainted “vaccine.”
By promoting the TLM he’s out of step with Vatican II also.
Please cite your sources.
Which specific teachings of Vatican II negate what was venerated as holy and sacred for over 15 centuries?
Carefully read Pope St. Pius V’s papal bull Quo Primum (1570), then consider:
Did Pope Paul VI abuse his authority by failing to hand down to future generations ALL that the Apostles and their successors had bequeathed to him?
No. He did not.
Mr. Bill, Pius V’s “Quo primum” never meant to bind future popes if they were to use the same papal authority that Pius used to reform the Church’s liturgy.
MrBill– you are 100% correct!
He’s right that they aren’t “vaccines”. True vaccines prevent you from getting infected with whatever you’re vaccinated against. None of the jabs do that, so they aren’t vaccines.
We just talked to a health provider who said that they have never lost a patient that has been vaccinated but they have lost a lot of patients who were not vaccinated.
All vaccines work by injecting your body with some form of the virus or bacteria so that your body develops antibodies that can fight off an infection. The virus is in the environment. Vaccines are not an invisible shield.
No vaccine is 100% effective.
As we have noted before, the mRNA vaccines are not made from any human cells. And although at one stage of development they were tested on cells derived from a fetus who died about 40 years ago, that is no longer true. And the testing was done on the same cell
Lines as your blood pressure medicines, your statins, and almost all the prescription and non prescription medicines on the market including ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.
And to the silly notion that they aren’t vaccines because they don’t prevent infection , that is the case of many vaccines. These vaccines significantly reduce serious illness and death from COVID. Who cares, really, what you call them. They work and they save millions of lives.
The Good Abp. Cordileone is not supposed to be a medical advisor. Just follow him on matters pertaining to the Catholic Faith. He needs and deserves our support and prayers.
The San Francisco Chronicle is something i scrape off the bottom of my shoe
Who is the good Archbishop’s medical doctor? Dr. Grimm Reaper? The Archbishop is spreading misinformation about immunity and the vaccines and this is unfortunate for the Catholics in his diocese. I suspect Archbishop Cordileone is looking beyond Pope Francis to the next pope…perhaps betting on a more conservative pope. If Archbishop Cordileone can assert his good pro-life credentials (he refused to take a vaccine “tainted” by testing on aborted stem cells) and his familiarity with the Traditional Latin Mass, perhaps, there will be a red Cardinal’s cap waiting for him. If a more liberal Pope is elected, well Archbishop Cordileone may be stuck in the city by the bay for awhile.
No, Barney. A Catholic cleric
has no medical qualifications. He just tries to do his best on serious medical issues, to help and protect his people from grave illness and death. And Abp. Cordileone is our Catholic Shepherd, very sincere, dedicated to the Lord– not interested in worldly honors, and obtaining the “red hat.” At age 65, he has few years left, as they retire at age 75. He deserves the respect, prayers and support of us all. Just do your best as a layman, on medical issues, and look to your family doctor, not your church. (But you may not agree with your family doctor, either!)
I have not gotten any COVID vaccines for various reasons. My health care provider lets me know when a new vaccine comes up for COVID and how to get it; nevertheless, I have talked to my doctors and NP’s when going for appointments for non COVID issues, and discussed one of the reasons I do not want to take it. I have already had one blood clot and do not want to take the chance of getting another. They have never contradicted me nor forced the issue, so they know there is such a risk. I did get both non abortion related pneumonia vaccinations, though.
The “SF Chronicle” is an extremely demented, degenerate, immoral, radical liberal waste of newsprint. I have refused to read it, for decades. They have no respect for God, morality, decency, nor for any church or religious leader. Makes me sick, their lack of respect, and mistreatment of our good Abp. Cordileone. “Sodom and Gomorrahville” needs a conversion to Christ.
Somebody say something about
the San Francisco Comical?
Well, we are all still fasting and praying for the conversion of Nancy Pelosi. On Dec. 12, the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, with Abp. Cordileone’s “A Rose and A Rosary For Nancy Campaign”– thousands more roses will be sent to Nancy, as more and more people sign up for the Campaign. The Pope sent his messenger, the corrupt, heretical Cdl. Mahony, to warn the USCCB, not to deny Communion to anyone, especially Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. So, despite the good efforts of Abp. Cordileone with the USCCB, for Eucharistic Coherence, sacramental abuses will continue– until God works miracles, with conversions. And 2,363 helpless, innocent American babies will sadly continue to be killed daily, by abortion– for now. Personally, I think Nancy Pelosi needed a stern rebuke, and a letter of excommunication from her Archbishop, several decades ago. And no “roses, fasts, and Rosaries.” Hypocrisy. How many little innocent babies will be killed by abortion, during this Advent and Christmas season?
Regardless of how I feel at times, I do know that our Rosaries, prayers, and fasts– and sending roses to Nancy– really do help, spiritually. God will bless our work with the Good Archbishop, and bring forth good from it, in ways we may never know.
“Different popes have different beliefs on things” was said by a commenter above. That is a very irresponsible statement. There really is no difference in what Pope’s believe. Their prudential judgement can differ. Their means of dealing with an issue can differ. But their beliefs are the same.
The same commenter also said “The next Pope may be a true Catholic Pope” as if Pope Francis is not a Catholic Pope. I think Pope Benedict would strongly dispute this statement.
In the same statement, the commenter misleads by saying that the FSSP and ICK were founded for the purpose of saying the Latin Mass. The FSSP are a group of SSPX priests who chose not to into schism with It leaders. ICK is a completely separate group. ICK became a society of apostolic life of pontifical right after John Paul II was dead,
I also think that the statement of the 1969 Mass being one of many is misleading. The Roman Rite has two forms: the ordinary form which uses the 2002 Missal (not instituted in the US until 2011) and the extraordinary form which uses the 1962 Missal.. There are other rites in the Catholic Church.
I believe that special training and permission is needed for a priest to perform more than one rite. So a Byzantine Rite priests would need special permission (maybe an indult from the Holy See) and training to say a Roman Rite Mass. They are allowed to concelebrate at any Mass in any rite or form with permission from their eparch or bishop but they must wear their own church’s vestments. (This is what I have learned doing internet research. If anyone knows better, please correct.)
No, cton. Different popes really do see things differently. And they do approach things differently, too. Three recent popes– Pope St.
John Paul II, Pope Benedict, and Pope Francis– are all three completely different individuals, in the role of pope. Pope Francis has almost completely undone much of the work of Pope St. John Paul II. And has destroyed the work of Pope Benedict’s “Summorum Pontificum.” And Pope Francis has time and again stated his loathing of “the rules of the Church,” Canon Law– and Catholic Sacred Tradition.
This is from someone who does not understand the papacy. It is a grave sin to bear false witness against the Pope.
No, ctom. Nobody is “bearing false witness against the papacy.” Childish. Calm down.
Then please provide links where Pope Francis has time and again stated his loathing of the rules of the Church, Canon Law and Catholic Sacred Tradition.
You wrote a grave lie against the Pope.
I think your understanding of the Faith is so poor that you may not even comprehend the gravity of the libel that you wrote.
Please don’t be dismissive. That is your go-to when the heat gets too much for you.
If you are an adult, take responsibility for your sins and repent.
cton, stop childishly attacking other good Catholic comnenters, whom you do not know. You need to responsibly read and keep up with the Catholic news so you can see and understand things for yourself.
I do not need to know you. If you are a bishop or a priest or a layperson, what you said about the Pope is sinful. Maybe you are not Catholic, that might mitigate your sin. Maybe you are being held at gunpoint and told to write it, that, too would render you less culpable. While ignorance could lessen your culpability, willful ignorance increases it as does the obstinacy and the lack of charity with which you treat those who are trying to admonish you. It might also indicate that you know full well what you are doing.
cton– You have no manners. A good practicing Catholic sets aside petty judgements and egotism, and listens carefully, and reads carefully, what others have to say. A good practicing Catholic always cares about others, and practices good discipline, oriented to God, not self.
“Popes are different individuals”is accusing the pope of apostasy, and when that is pointed out to her she accuses others of being childish.
Sacred Tradition, along with Sacred Scripture, forms the deposit of faith, so to say he loathes Catholic Sacred Tradition is to say he is an apostate.
Calling the pope an apostate, with no evidence, is indeed bearing false witness. And adults who can’t handle criticism are the ones who are childish.
No. YFC, I am certainly not “accusing the popes of apostasy.” I am just pointing out the fact that different popes do their jobs differently. Each pope is very different than his predecessor. You need to read posts of others more carefully. And do not childishly attack others whom you do not know. You have some very strange views, but nevertheless, receive a great deal of tolerance and acceptance, as each of us are different individuals.
YFC, let us hope you are an honest, faithful Catholic, as you say you are a homosexual– let us then hope, if you are a homosexual, that you also practice Chastity, and serve as a Christian witness to others. All Christians are called to practice Chastity daily, anyway, according to their state in life. Heaven cannot be attained without it.
“Popes are” it is you who say I am a homosexual. And as for reading others’ posts, I think you ought to read your own posts more carefully, as well as ours, and you will see what it is we are saying, and that we are undeserving of your most frequent insult, that of being childish.
No, YFC. Stop wasting your time attacking others for no good reason.
Both “cton” and “Your Fellow” are correct in admonishing “Popes are” for her disrespect, irreverence, and false accusation of the present Pontiff. A person cannot claim to be a “faithful of Christ” (“christifidelis”) if she disrespects Christ’s own vicar on earth. For example, stating that “Pope Francis has undone” the work of the previous two Popes is simply not true and constitutes an “attack” on the reputation of the Pope. Pope Francis has continued John Paul’s teaching on the death penalty for instance; as for “Summorum Pontificum”, well, if Pope Benedict’s gracious intent for writing “Summorum” and for liberalizing the use of the “vetus ordo” is being abused by Catholics who are using that beautiful Mass in order to register their dissent from Vatican II’s documents and thereby divide the Church, then the Pope as guardian of the unity of the Church, must act decisively. And this is precisely what Francis has bravely done. The Pope is getting unjust flack from bad people for doing something to preserve the health of the Church.
Obstinacy in sin is a sin against the Holy Spirit. It needs to be forgiven in Confession (if one ever repents). We will pray for you.
cton– No. If you want yo be a good Catholic, you need to respect others, set aside your childish judgments and prejudices, and carefully read or listen to what others have to say. Good Manners and Self-Discipline are essential for a true Christian.
Catholic morality is being called childish and manners and self-discipline is being elevated to the standards of morality. Those are important virtues but a murderer, an adulterer, an abortionist, someone who covets others good can all have good manners. Self-discipline is a virtue. How many of these bikini models and OnlyFans models have great self-discipline in their eating habits and exercise schedules?
A true Catholic who truly practices their faith, sets aside their petty opinions, prejudices and judgments, daily, when they get up in the morning. They are ready for a day of selfless dedication to God– because they love Him. They care about their neighbors, and all through the day, seek to do good to them. They always practice Self-Discipline, for love of God– not self. They listen to their neighbors carefully, and read carefully, what others have to say. When the day is over, they have done good in their lives, for love of God.
We are to do acts of mercy. Admonishing the sinner-especially a person who commits the grave sin of libel against the Pope- is an act of mercy. However, with every admonishment you reject here, you reject God’s Mercy.
Take this thread of posts (if you are Catholic) to your pastor (If he is Catholic) and have him explain it to you.