Interview on March 7, 2022, with Luis, who is studying psychology, outside the Campus Center at West Valley College in Saratoga, California.
Do you consider yourself religious?
Do you go to church?
Luis: We used to go to church when we were little. We’re not from here. We are from Venezuela. Back in my country, we used to go to the church of my school. It was a Catholic one. But after that we haven’t done that that much.
Do you consider yourself Catholic?
Luis: Yeah, I guess.
Do you believe in God?
If someone asked you who Jesus is, what would you say?
Luis: Well, He’s the Son of God. That’s how, in my religion, they would explain it to you. So that’s the thing that I know.
Do you think there’s evidence for the existence of God?
Luis: I haven’t thought about it that much. I don’t care if people say that it exists or it doesn’t exist. I just believe because it makes me feel good about it.
Do you think it’s true that there’s a God?
Luis: I think so. Maybe because we exist, I believe that that’s enough. If we exist, something had to happen to make us be here. I don’t know exactly if that’s God or whatever it is, but if I want to call it God I could call that God. So I say that, yeah. I believe in that and I believe that it exists.
Do you believe that an atheist is wrong if he says, “There is no God”?
Luis: I could hear their reasons. You could say that, because of science, maybe there’s a big bang or something called like the particle of God, which is when atoms crash and something happens. There’s many ways you could see that. I choose to see that it exists. Some people could choose that it doesn’t exist and that’s okay as well.
Do you think that if God exists, then the people who think He doesn’t exist are wrong and if God does not exist, then you are wrong? Do you think that somebody has to be wrong?
Luis: No, I don’t think about that. I just choose to believe and if someone wants to believe another thing, that’s okay, as well.
Do you believe in an afterlife?
Luis: Well, I don’t actually know if it’s true or false that there’s an afterlife. I haven’t really thought about it much. But I want to believe there’s something else. I don’t know exactly if you could call it afterlife, but you can choose whatever you want about it and just be happy with it. For me, I guess I want something else to happen after life. I don’t know exactly what, but I guess just let it happen. I would prefer that. If it’s not, well, I guess that’s it. But right now I don’t want to think about it. I’m still very young.
If there is an afterlife, do you think good people will go to one place and bad people go to a place of punishment?
Luis: I don’t know if this works exactly, but I read a myth from many, many years ago that there’s a jury – I’m not sure exactly if that’s the word – that just showed you what you do in your life and you yourself judge if you did wrong or right. Something like that. So if there’s a heaven or hell, maybe you’re the one to judge, if you do the right things or the wrong things. It’s a weird metaphor.
Do you think there are sins and that it’s wrong to commit sins?
Luis: Sins are bad, yeah. There are worse sins than the others. There are things that you shouldn’t do, but I believe that God is a merciful God. So yes, you sometimes commit sins, but that doesn’t mean that you’re like a bad person, maybe you just felt bad about one thing. And if you’re willing to change to better, I believe that God will forgive you, but it’s only if you want to change, because sometimes you could do things that you don’t know that they’re bad, or sometimes you do things that they are good, but you thought that they are bad or whatever. Things are bad, but I believe that the only way that they will like, be super bad, is if you do it on purpose and you don’t regret it.
Do you think abortion is a sin?
Luis: It’s hard to tell, because sometimes there are things that are really bad, like someone raped someone else. I guess that the person that was raped will think that abortion is something that could be a good thing because she didn’t decide to be pregnant. But if you think a little bit about it, you think that you’re like killing a person. There are two positions. So that’s a decision for the person. I really couldn’t tell. It’s a little bit hard because it’s a hard question. I don’t know.
How about for a change of pace you put someone on stakeout at a TLM and ask people coming and going what they think of Vatican II? Questions like:
Do you think the Novus Ordo is a valid Mass?
What do you think of Vatican II? Do you accept it as a legitimate council of the Church?
What is your opinion of Pope Francis?
Is the TLM better than the Novus Ordo Mass?
That would be more interesting for a change than these predictable interviews.
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I took classes at WVC right out of high school as did some of our kids, even when in high school. WVC is quite diverse and one can learn many life lessons there, even when some things in the classroom have an anti-Christian worldview, as does the wider world in which we live and work. And, one attending knows it’s a secular school. It seems healthier and more honest in that sense than when one attends a Catholic school that has lost its faith and morals (as I did at times later). A weak Catholic school is like a vaccine; give students a weak or dead version of the Faith and they build up a resistance to authentic Faith. Our “kids” and I who attended had to deal with some anti-Christian propaganda, students selling drugs, some inappropriate reading material, a few leftist political rants and more. But, we also found some good teachers who taught their subject matter well and it didn’t cost us a lot. It’s a good place to learn and practice apologetics and evangelization as well as love of neighbors, even enemies. When I was there, I attended Viking Christian Fellowship with evangelical brothers and sisters. Sadly, it seems Catholic campus ministries rarely, if ever, exist at community colleges, where many Catholics go to school. I hope that changes. At least some other Christians are serving and gathering there. Pray for Luis and other there. May he come to know Christ and His Church. And, may he soon see our nation as his home (“my country”), a much better place than socialist Venezuela.
It’s simple people will believe and either it works for you or it doesn’t. People will chastise you no matter what you believe. Find your own path don’t be a follower. It’s spirituality on whatever level helps you get through your day your week your your your life your time here on earth then use it to your advantage and find out more about it . be around people that have the same thoughts and beliefs as you do. If you don’t believe it then go be with people who don’t believe it. I just think everyone needs to find their way. And when they do they don’t need to be questioned about it or made to feel wrong about it.
“Find your own path don’t be a follower.” Then what do we do with Jesus asking us to follow Him?
This is pretty common, as a college professor myself. Many former Catholics, most of my classes are former Catholics.