In a recent BBC interview, Anthony Fauci reflects on his own “complicated” relationship with the Catholic Church. Fauci and the reporter are strolling the corridors of his new place of work, the Jesuit-run Georgetown University—where his wife studied, the two married, and their children were born.
Passing the chapel where they tied the knot, the reporter admires its beauty. Fauci agrees: “Yeah. It’s really nice.” Does he still go there? “No.” Does he practice the faith? Again, an immediate no. Why not, she wonders? He answers,
“A number of complicated reasons. . . . First of all, I think my own personal ethics in life are I think enough to keep me going on the right path. And I think that there are enough negative aspects about the organizational Church, that you are very well aware of. I’m not against it. I identify myself as a Catholic. I was raised, I was baptized, I was confirmed, I was married in the Church. My children were baptized in the Church. But as far as practicing it, it seems almost like a pro forma thing that I don’t really need to do.”
Fauci is divisive as a public health figure — and his merits in this area are not my concern here — but many, indeed most, baptized Catholics would find this to be a respectable take on religion. Almost half of those raised Catholic leave the Church and never return; yet many in that group are “cultural Catholics” who still identify as Catholic in some way, or “ex-Catholics” who still touch base with the institutional Church on occasion.
And of all those who identify as Catholic — including those who came back, or never left — sizable majorities disagree with or are doubtful of the Church’s moral or theological teachings. Fauci is just one voice in a veritable sea of souls who understand what it means to be Catholic in a similar way.
The problem with this worldview — one evident even to an impartial observer with no skin in the game — is not so much, as practicing Catholics often claim, that such Catholics cannot really be called or counted as “Catholic” in some fundamental sense. There is truth to the old saying: “Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.” In fact, the Code of Canon Law treats all baptized Catholics above the age of reason as bound by the Church’s ecclesiastical laws—that is, as Catholic. The Church remains, as ever, a patient mother, waiting with open arms to welcome her children back home.
No, the problem is that such Catholics, to borrow from Kierkegaard, fail to “become what they are.” They live in a state of what the existentialists called inauthenticity: play-acting as what they are not. This charade runs in both directions: they are Catholic, yet reduce religion to personal ethics and deny any need of the institutional Church; they become worldly, yet keep the Church at their disposal for academic degrees, special occasions, or times of crisis.
They are neither believers nor unbelievers, but passengers; neither wayward prodigal sons in a far country nor loyal elder brothers at home, but aimless middle brothers who come and go as they please. Churches are nice, they admit, but not that nice; they are not against attending them, they aver, but are too busy to do it themselves. They are, in fact, the true pro forma Catholics — too tepid to inhabit their own tradition but also too timid to leave it behind. They want to have their cake but still eat it….







He should be in jail for all the COVID miserly he inflicted on US businesses and injury from the useless “vaccine”.that was not a vaccine. It’s tragic that people are still getting the shots. Lambs to the slaughter.
I read that the new COVID variant is going to cause 40% depopulation in highly vaccinated countries because the vaxxed don’t have the superior immunity that those with natural immunity have.
You can’t believe everything you read.
I, too, had a “complicated” relationship with the Catholic church. I mean, I’m from a Catholic family, but things like politics, power, Jews, my adulterous affair, concentration camps and war complicate things. I think the German bishops would be okay with blessing me for pastoral reasons, as long as it was spontaneous and didn’t look like they were supporting National Socialism. Dr. Fauci would understand. As would the President. I think this is a good semi-final solution.
All the thumb-downers don’t get the joke… look at the name, fellas!!!
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Truth be told, a lot of Catholics have Fauci’s mentality about not practicing the faith anymore because they consider themselves to be good people without having to go to Mass. They consider Catholicism to be superfluous and mostly irrelevant.
Like me, I’m basically a good person. Why go to Mass?
No pastor or bishop has ever talked to me directly about that. So, why bother?
Like Fauci, I was on the “right path,” or so I thought.
Gotta go, it’s getting uncomfortably hot here. I wonder what that’s all about.
“going on the right path” to where? He needs our prayers.
I won’t pray for him. He ruined America, disrupted my life, caused millions of people to be injected with a cancer-boosting agent, and is being paid a hefty salary and retirement. He’s on his own.
That is scapegoating. America is not ruined. I don’t where you live but maybe you should move to somewhere that is not “ruined.”
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Sorry to butt into this thread. Just want to say that while America is not ruined, unfortunately, I am.
The lockdown mandate allowed my tenant not to pay rent during the pandemic, so she did not. Even after the government paid for her arrears, she refused to move out which took another eight months of rent-free living before I could have her evicted by court order, and that was not cheap.
When she finally left, she trashed the apartment so horribly, it became uninhabitable. I am slowly having it repaired so I could get it re-rented, but I’m running out of money.
If it were not for the pandemic, there would not be a lockdown mandate. If it were not for the lockdown, there would not be an eviction moratorium. And if it were not for the eviction moratorium, my deadbeat tenant could have easily been told to move out when she stopped paying rent. On top it all, my country increased my property tax by 100 per cent.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to spill out my horror story, but only to request for your prayers. I am a rare collateral of the war on Covid. I am so destitute, I can’t even afford to move.
I am an 80-year old widow living on a small fixed income, with a special-need son who is my caregiver. I am begging for your prayers. I will be praying for you in return. God will reward you for your spiritual work of mercy. May God bless you in the New Year.
Could Cal Catholic look into this and see if there is a way we could help this widow?
Dear Marietta – May God continue to be your rock and refuge. I will remember you and your son in my daily prayers. God bless you.
Ooh… now this is a bad statement. The Bible exhorts us to pray for our enemies. Dr. Fauci is an enemy of the people, which is why we must pray all the harder for his true conversion. I do not, cannot, and will not celebrate if his soul goes to hell. We do a disservice to God by not praying for him.
Simply put, he has rejected the quite UN-complicated promises of his baptism and confirmation. You either believe what you say or you don’t.
Why are so many famous and powerful people lapsed Catholics?
What he said…it seems like something they don’t need to do.
Maybe because the Catholic faith values simplicity, purity, and above all humility–qualities not likely to be fostered in an atmosphere of fame, riches and power. At some point in their rise to earthly glory, they had to choose whom they would serve, and so we have powerful lapsed Catholics.
I hearken to Machiavelli’s final words: “I desire to go to hell. and not to heaven. In the former, I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles.”
they are not going to encounter much simplicity, purity and humility at a Catholic Church-they should, but they won’t.
Fame, riches and power are burdens.
And to be honest, you will be exploited at a Catholic Church.
That is just honest.
A lapsed Catholic is someone who no longer attends Mass.
Sometimes it is sloth and sometimes it is anger and sometimes it could be pride.
It can be so much else.
Many just got out of the habit of going. Some got mad at God because of a loss. Some got mad at the Church because of the behavior of an individual in the Church, living or historical.
Some have family and friends that undermine any inclination to go to Mass. Some people have to work. Some people are too hungover on a Sunday morning and don’t know there are other Masses.
If you know a lapsed Catholic and you know the issue, you might be able to help. Have a Mass said for their loved one or for them (special intention.) Bring them a bulletin. Send them a link to a sermon or a Mass (short). I thought of you…
There’s an eternal Hibachi of Fauci’s own making warming up for him right now in the next world.
There’s a place waiting for each of us in both Heaven and Hell.
We must not relish those who apparently deservedly are heading to hell (we all deserve hell), but rather must align with our Lord, and pray that they convert, as that’s what our Lord wants.
There are too many folks who identify as Catholic but don’t live like Catholics. They remind me of the old C&W song “Rhinestone Cowboy” or chocolate covered poop.
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Padre. Chocolate covered poop? Ouch. How about we add white’d sepulcher?
Otherwise my sensitivity is sensitive.
Whited sepulchers are the people who do all the outwardly pious things but do not love others.
I did a ministry for returning Catholic and you always hear this: “No one ever came to see why I wasn’t there. No one missed me.”
We had a very active parishioner who stopped coming. Everyone knew her or at least her name. I did not see her in a while so I asked her husband if she was OK. He told me that she left the Church and he told me why. I asked if I could help. He said that it was not going to help but he thanked me because I was the only one who had even noticed she was gone and asked about it.
The purpose for mass is not to be noticed, but to worship God and make Him noticed. I believe we have a human desire to be loved and needed. Being a friend and following up on the “other” can help to fill that need in us at church. Did she follow up with those who felt that way, so they became friends? It’s hard when you do a prayer group or regular bible study with people not to follow up with them on a regular basis. They are the body of Christ, those I plan to see in heaven. We are helping and supporting each other live this life and prepare for heaven. St Paul says we should build up the body of Christ. It’s not perfect, for it’s earth, not heaven.
I’ll pray for her. I could never leave Jesus, because of any other parishioner.
She left because she really did not agree with the Church.
Yeah, a lot of parishes are more like social clubs with cliques and “in people” and then the rest of us Joe Schmoes.
Christ says if you love me you will keep my commandments. Many have trouble with them, even the 1st. Many would rather not.
Although Fauci states he identifies as Catholic, a few sentences later he admits he doesn’t practice the Catholic faith – these two contradictory statements show that he in fact DOES NOT identify as Catholic.
One might give him credit for his honesty, as there are many who identify as Catholic, and even attend Mass, but are theologically Protestant. Those are the truly sad cases – they don’t even understand that even though they go through some of the motions, they, too, have abandoned the Catholic faith. And it’s rare to find a Catholic layman, priest or religious who would dare tell them.
Hopefully, one of the Jesuits or even one of the students will see the interview and engage him in a discussion.
We all should pray for him.
Sorry for the typo.
I meant to say, my county (not country) raised my property tax by 100 percent.
John 10:27-30
My sheep hear my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish. No one can take them out of my hand.
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all,* and no one can take them out of the Father’s hand.
The Father and I are one.
Fauci’s “complicated” relationship with Catholicism most likely began with the four years he spent at Regis High School in Manhattan, a 100% tuition free scholarship school run by the Jesuits.
Jesuits are mostly a corruptive influence on the Church and on their students.