The following comes from a Jan. 14 email to Cal Catholic from one of its readers.
Fiscal Year 2014-2015, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development provided a $40,000 grant to the Inland Empire Sponsoring Committee through the archdiocese of Los Angeles,
- The president of sponsoring committee [Rev. Michael Fronk] performs same-sex marriages.
- The president is the pastor of a church that actively pushes the homosexual agenda.
The Vatican’s motu proprio On the Service of Charity went into effect Dec, 2012, which says:
“Nevertheless, to the extent that such activities are promoted by the hierarchy itself, or are explicitly supported by the authority of the Church’s pastors, there is a need to ensure that they are managed in conformity with the demands of the Church’s teaching …..”
“ Art 10 . 3. In particular, the diocesan bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do not receive financial support from groups or institutions that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching.
“Similarly, lest scandal be given to the faithful, the diocesan bishop is to ensure that these charitable agencies do not accept contributions for initiatives whose ends, or the means used to pursue them, are not in conformity with the Church’s teaching.”
“ Art. 11. – The diocesan bishop is obliged, if necessary, to make known to the faithful the fact that the activity of a particular charitable agency is no longer being carried out in conformity with the Church’s teaching, and then to prohibit that agency from using the name “Catholic” and to take the necessary measures should personal responsibilities emerge. “
As we all know the doctrine of the faith can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition (1997) which is part of the Apostolic Constitution.
It is my opinion that any personnel of the USCCB, diocese, or charities that call themselves Catholic – that publically violate the tenets in the CCC should be fired.
According to a Jan. 13 release from the Lepanto Institute:
In 2012, Bishop Soto ended funding for an organization called Francis House, because its director performed same-sex marriages and advocated for so-called abortion rights. Faith Whitmore, the director of Francis House, said “I have never represented any of those positions on behalf of Francis House.” But this did not suffice as a defense for Bishop Soto.
The organization is primarily a funding conduit for various labor unions. If people want to donate money to labor unions, fine by me–but why does the USCCB need to act as a middleman collection agency? Unions can do their own fundraising. Catholics should really ask themselves why the CCHD even needs to exist–there’s plenty of good work the church could be doing elsewhere with these funds.
Are people even still donating to the CCHD? Really??
Why are Catholic parishes members of this organization?
It’s called $63 MILLION dollars in Federal Grants annually (CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS) to work for the Obama Administration,
and drain whatever the USCCB can drain out of our parishes under the guise of helping the poor.
USCCB and their charities needs to get out of the Federal Government Grant BIG business !
Jose, I don’t agree with you on all points. Let me explain. I have been on boards of a large catholic charity. One thing that is evident in all Catholic charities is that the need outstrips the resources. The ideal would be for groups like Catholic Charities to rely 100% on donations from the people in the pews. In truth, that only provides about 10-20% of the money needed. At that point the agency has to go out to foundations for support or seek out government grants to meet the other needs. Take an hour to read the annual reports of several Catholic Charities, and you will see the extent of the problem. At the same time, the governments, local, state and federal, rely on faith based organizations and other agencies to get the work done in the field. It is a lot cheaper to have volunteers do the work, or to have lower paid agency employees do the work. I volunteer once a week at a Loaves and Fishes in a medium size city. They feed about 800 homeless people each day, provide places to take showers, wash clothes, read in the library, find care for their dogs, and get help with job training and finding housing. That takes millions of dollars each year. No government money us used, but they just are skimming the surface of the problem. Lots of other parishes and non-Catholic churches are able to feed families on a regular basis.
But don’t you think this is sort of a vicious circle? Maybe if people had any sense that their plate offerings would actually go toward the work of their own parish or go toward feeding the homeless or other corporal works of mercy, they might be willing to contribute more. For example, on and off we read here of some poor struggling charity that’s trying to help women in crisis pregnancies but they barely have the resources to keep going–receiving absolutely no diocesean funding. Why is that? Wouldn’t this be something the Church as a whole could do to improve its pro-life witness? Perhaps the projects of this particular charity are worthwhile in some people’s eyes, but how do their projects really compare to feeding and housing human beings and caring for the most vulnerable? What does this say about the Church’s priorities?
I think between the billion plus (or whatever number people throw around) Catholics, there would be enough resources to accomplish quite a lot. Yet I think most people believe (consciously or subconsciously) that the Church squanders the vast majority of the money it receives. Today we have the announcement of yet another archdiocese declaring bankruptcy essentially because of mismanagement of priests by various bishops.
Bob One writes, “I volunteer once a week at a Loaves and Fishes in a medium size city. They feed about 800 homeless people each day, provide places to take showers, wash clothes, read in the library, find care for their dogs, and get help with job training and finding housing. ” = What does it profit a man to work once a week at “Loaves and Fishes” when several times a week he “SNICKERS” PLOTS AGAINST and MOCKS the Cardinal who holds fast to the Traditions and adheres to “all” of the teachings of the Producing Author of those “Loaves and Fishes?”….”The priests who venerate me will be *scorned and *opposed by their confreres (other priests). Churches and altars (hidden Tabernacles) will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.” – Church approved ‘Messages of Our Lady of Akita, Japan’
There is nothing new under the sun. Who else in the Gospel feigned concern for the poor while “snickering” and plotting with all of the chief priests and ancients who took counsel against Jesus that they might silence Jesus and put him to death.
Some people wake up in the morning and ask, “How can I lift people up, give them hope, show them charity, increase their faith”, while others seem to wake up and ask “How can I kick people in the shins when they try to do good things and serve the Lord.”
Catherine, WOW!
Catherine, you are way out of line. You are completely out of conformity with the Gospel. It is shameful for you to mock the Holy Scriptures so that you can sin like this.
1. “Some people wake up in the morning and ask, “How can I lift people up, give them hope, show them charity, increase their faith”, while others seem to wake up and ask “How can I kick people in the shins when they try to do good things and serve the Lord.”
2. “Catherine, WOW!”
3. “Catherine, you are way out of line. You are completely out of conformity with the Gospel. It is shameful for you to mock the Holy Scriptures so that you can sin like this.”
= The Triumvirate Team of compromise and conformity with the world.
“Bob One”: “JOSE” is correct; the federal government and the Roman Catholic Church are a terrible connection. The Catholic Church exists only to help in attaining salvation. The federal government has other missions; and, under Obama, those missions are often morally evil.
Your comment disagrees with “JOSE” with no real rationale, except the need is great and the federal government has more money. Is this what Jesus taught? “Sure, if times are difficult forget what I said and do whatever gets you more cash”?
This likely makes no sense to you, and to many big charitable organizations. These non-profits and NGOs do much general good, but often at an enormous cost. Not hard to see that much public money, and private giving, goes to assist abortions, and particularly homosexual rights groups (especially through the notorious CCHD).
“JOSE”: Keep up the good work.
“Bob One” and “Anonymous”: Leave “Catherine” alone, as what she says about your continuously supercilious and anti-Traditional comments is largely correct. It is also nice that she provides Our Lady’s comments to provide context to her positions.
The problem with your Zombie-Liberals is that you do not think, and react negatively to all criticism, without considering if what is said is valid. “Catherine” raises strong points about doing good here and there, but laying waste to the Faith in many other areas. Virtue of doing good for the poor is to be done privately, not to give support for positions argued. Take a look at some of the Sermon on the Mount, “Take heed that you do not your justice before men, to be seen by them . . . Therefore, when thou dost an alms-deed, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men.” Matt. 6:1-2.
Thanks for your comments, “Catherine”.
Watch your back. Abeca Christian used to defend and make excuses for Catherine’s sinful behavior. Now, Abeca can’t post without Catherine lying about her and saying mean things to her.
There have been several people who stopped posting here because Catherine was so mean to them and stalked them with her lies and false witness. She was nice to them at first, then she turned on them. Some just changed their name.
I will pray for you.
“Virtue of doing good for the poor is to be done privately, not to give support for positions argued.”
Thank you St. Christopher for your excellent defense of our Catholic Faith! God bless you!
Bob One, Jesus will give us what we need – to do what HE EXPECTS of each of us to love our Neighbor and help the poor.
Partnering with any government or organization that is not in accord with the Doctrine of the Faith must stop.
(Let the government do its own job.)
The end does not justify the means. (CCC 1759).
No ‘Catholic’ Charity can GIVE or RECEIVE any funds from any government, group or organization which has goals that violate the Doctrine of Faith (pursue ANY ends that are contrary to Church teaching).
PERIOD.
In addition ALL Catholic Charities must spread the Gospel which also violates government requirements.
The Federal Government is very capable of doing their own job to insure that no one starves, is naked, or homeless (unless they want to be) in the USA.
Make the government do their own job.
Never defend any Catholic organization that throws the Doctrine of the Faith under the bus – for MONEY to expand their organization and power base, or goals.
People will live in the USA without these organizations. PRIDE is a capital sin.
As an aside, it would be cheaper for the US taxpayer and more helpful to the poor, if the Government built housing, etc, rather than paying for the existence and costs of all the additional bureaucracies which includes but is not limited to the CCHD, “Catholic Charities” and CRS.
Abp Gomez has to start paying attention to what his Diocese employees and other “Catholics” are doing within his Diocese, for fraternal correction, etc.
Those employees that do not adhere to Church teaching should be fired, and those Charities that call themselves “Catholic” but do not adhere 100% should not be allowed to call themselves ‘Catholic’
The Abp has a strict responsibility to inform all Catholics within the Diocese when a “Catholic” charity strays from the Faith..
It seems much of the Abp’s time is taken up with ILLEGAL ALIENS and support for lack of border enforcement which is the cause of families splitting up, higher gang activity, more sex trafficking, and more drug trafficking.
We want our Bishop back; he does not have time for National and State politics, or those outside the Diocese, as evidenced by his lack of making sure Catholic groups within his Diocese adhere to the CCC in entirety.
The Abp has a Diocese that needs teaching according to Scripture and the CCC, and obviously needs supervision. – This is his primary job.
Based upon the Motu Proprio “ON the SERVICE of CHARITY” which went into effect 2012,
it is DOUBTFUL if the USCCB’s charities – CCHD, “Catholic Charities” and CRS can continue to apply for and accept the $63 MILLION dollars annually in Federal Grants which include signing people up for Obamacare.
(See the quoted paragraphs in the article.)
It is clear that the goals of the Obama Administration are pro-Abortion, pro-Contraception, pro Homosexual marriage, (and at the CA State Level 2014 Democratic Platform – pro-Euthanasia).
ANYTHING to do with OBAMACARE (Affordable Health Care Act) is completely off limits to participation in any manner by any Catholic Charity.
They must stop doing the government’s bidding/job.
This is a link to ABORTION in OBAMACARE for 2015. This link was recommended by pro-life US Rep Chris Smith.
Lack of transparency by the Federal Government and some insurance companies continues to be a problem to perpetrate fraud – so people will not know what they are purchasing.
https://www.obamacareabortion.com/
Get rid of the CCHD, “Catholic Charities”, and CRS. Every year it’s something else that violates the Faith.
Jesus never taught us to work for the government – being employed to take tax dollars (Grants) to do their bidding.
Jesus taught us all to do the best we can as individuals to help the poor.
In fact the Catholic Church teaches ‘SUBSIDIARITY’ # 1885, 1894, 1883, 2209.
and COMMUTATIVE JUSTICE # 2411, 2454.
No ‘Catholic’ Charity can GIVE or RECEIVE any funds from any government, group or organization which has goals that violate the Faith (pursue ANY ends that are contrary to Church teaching.
In addition ALL Catholic Charities must spread the Gospel.
The USCCB as well as individual Bishops must adhere to “On the Service of Charity” in entirety – with no exceptions.
” Art 10 # 3. In particular, the diocesan bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do NOT RECEIVE financial support from groups or institutions
that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching. ”
“ Similarly, lest scandal be given to the faithful, the diocesan BISHOP is to ENSURE that these charitable agencies do not accept contributions for initiatives whose ends, or the means used to pursue them, are NOT in CONFORMITY with the Church’s teaching. ”
1) So what is Abp going to do about this ?
2) And do what to make certain it does not happen again within his Diocese ?
3) Certainly the Obama Administration pursues ends contrary to Church teaching, therefore what is the Abp going to do about Federal Grants ?
4) If the Grant is not withdrawn by the Bishop should it be reported to the ” Pontifical Council Cor Unum” as stated in the Motu Proprio “On the Service of Charity” ?
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/corunum/corunum_en/profilo_en/uffici_en.html
CCC: ” 1759 An evil action cannot be justified by reference to a good intention” (cf. St. Thomas Aquinas, Dec. praec. 6).
The end does not justify the means. “
If the Abp does not care about adhering to the Motu Proprio, why should we care about what he says to us ?
This is a two way street.
The same is true for the USCCB.
Respect must be earned.
Examples must be set including Obedience by Archbishop Gomez.
Well, America’s bishops are willfully negligent, refusing to see the arrogant Liberal bias of the CCHD, and its sloppy efforts to cover-up their evident transgressions against Catholic teaching. The CCHD is what it is, and will never alter its basic character. Here, a significant sum is going, in effect, to further enable homosexual marriage and other homosexual agenda items.
Of course this is deliberate on the part of the CCHD. Why is this? Because the CCHD knows that the majority of American bishops are with them, support them. So what if a few people object? The bishops will merely argue, “asked and answered” and move on, choosing to ignore the obvious.
People: (1) reject the CCHD; do not give them any of your money; (2) find a good Traditional, or Orthodox, Catholic charity, like the Little Sisters of the Poor; give them your cash, or the FSSP; and (3) then, write to your bishop, and to the Vatican, outlining what you did. The bishops think that you are stupid and that you owe it to them to keep them in a cushy, and largely unearned lifestyle.
I think Little Sisters of the Poor are pretty questionable: lots of their money goes to attorneys, pregnant novices….Who knows what exactly is going on there. But otherwise you are correct. Best to give to charities that are local where you really know their work and can at least somewhat monitor their activities.
“Dave N” your comment is slanderous. Certainly the Little Sisters are forced to use attorneys, in that the federal government is requiring them to forego their faith in the governemnt’s pursuit of socialist medicine and making the world safe for abortionists through ObamaCare. The Beckett Fund, however, provides legal services to the Little Sisters on a “pro bono” basis. Their case was argued before the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals on December 8, 2014.
Let’s have some more facts, here, “Dave N.” and please also give us your true agenda? It is certainly not to oppose creepy and anti-Catholic people like the “Inland Empire Sponsoring Committee” which receives grant money from the also anti-Catholic CCHD.
Don’t be naive.
Gee, what a penetrating comment, “Dave N”. In fact, you have no idea about the Little Sisters, particularly of their use of The Beckett Fund and their government-forced litigation to protect the Little Sisters’ Catholic Faith and Mission.
Try to learn something before you comment, “Dave N”. Or, if you know something that we do not, please provide at least some factual background to educate us. The literature about the Little Sisters is extensive, so doing some research will not be difficult. In fact, go to The Becket Fund website to start; here it is: https://www.becketfund.org/ .
Being a loyal subject of the realm of San Diego, I knoweth not exactly where the “Inland Empire” doth begin and end. I had thought it consisted of only San Bernardino and Riverside Counties. I do know that’s not in the LA Archdiocese [unless ABP Gomez had an unpublished annexation to his temporal realm]. So why is a LA organization giving its scarce funds to a ‘out of area’ organization? Surely there are more than enough needy organizations in the LA archdiocese.
Most of it is in the Diocese of San Bernadino, but it also includes Pomona which is in the Archdiocese of LA.
This charity is based in Pomona, which is in LA County–home of the L.A. County Fair.
Pope Francis would say, “Who am I to judge?”
Joel you are taking that out of context. You are no different than when the homosexuals took off with that. This behavior is wrong! If you want to win for Christ and save souls, you must start with the truth and not partial with your own twist. You must be faithful.
I don’t like what is happening in the church but we always have had wicked times, the saints have lived a good example on how we should all behave and to try to follow their great witness. Learn from the saints and fight the good fight without working against its mission.
Abeca, take a gander at this link:
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/scripts/vort-2015-01-14.pdf
Learn from the Saints and fight the good fight without enabling those who wish to destroy the Church. Like those who wish to be silent while cancer spreads. Being faithful is pointing out the truth and the ‘truth’ is that off-the-cuff chats from the Holy Father are unwise. So you may want to take this speech and direct it toward the Vatican.
You yourself have spoken out of turn regarding the Holy Father. Before chastening the comments of others, you should probably rethink yourself or perhaps explain your position when you compared Pope Francis to Archbishop Lefebvre.
Schismatics see things differently from faithful Catholics.
I am sure that you mean well but you are not the same religion we are.
We are not going to conform to your alternative magisterium no matter what goes on at the Vatican or what the Pope says off the cuff.
Abeca is Catholic and if I remember correctly she said she had some trouble understanding why the Pope said some things.
You, on the other hand, were the first person on this website to criticize the Pope and you implied that since the world likes him he isn’t of God.
Abeca can post whatever she wants. We know she is a faithful Catholic and if she is corrected by another faithful Catholic, she will explain her position or if indeed she did wrong she will correct herself.
There is just no comparing what Abeca has written to the multiple errors, compromises, blasphemy and heresy that you have written. That doesn’t even take into account your smart aleck posts that are just “sticking it ” to someone you have it in for. I know you won’t take any advice to be Christian or to be kind, so your posts are an evil that we will have to endure until the Lord sees fit to deliver us.
Amazing there are still suckers among us that support Catholic Charities. I stopped when I learned they sustained ACORN and BHO and Saul Alinski before him.
There are many ways of contributing to our religion: weekly expenses of your parish, in my particular case Una Voce Los Angeles or Ventura County, or simply giving your favorite priest a personal (non-deductible) gift voucher for Christmas. By all means my money should not go to welfare programs for Illegal Aliens or Trade Unions.
Unless you are contributing to a building fund or some other expressly designated fund, the contribution toward the “weekly expenses of your parish” actually go straight to the archdiocese. It’s a shell game that many people are not aware of and they end up supporting things they would never agree to if they knew what was actually happening with their money. Some parishes are sloppy with their designated funds, so even doing that is somewhat iffy.
DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE – – – –
Everyone – Go back to the REQUIRED since 2012 – “ON the SERVICE of CHARITY”
https://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/motu_proprio/documents/hf_ben-xvi_motu-proprio_20121111_caritas_en.html
If you are a “Catholic” organization you MUST comply.
If you do not want to be “Catholic” remove the name “Catholic” from your organization’s advertising and remove yourself from the USCCB and your Diocese,
then you can do whatever the government wants, and obtain all the federal grants complying with their requirements rather than that of the Catholic Church.
You will become merely another Social Services Organization – which if forbidden in the Motu Proprio.
The ends NEVER justifies the means. CCC: 1759.
It is very DISTURBING that some posters are making EXCUSES for
DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE to Doctrine of the Faith,
and a Motu Proprio of Pope Benedict XVI.