Interview on April 10, 2024, with Andrea, who is studying criminal justice, outside Campus Center East at Chaffey College in Rancho Cucamonga.

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Do you consider yourself religious?
Andrea: No. I was raised Catholic, I was taken to church every Sunday, but as I grew up I just started slowly disconnecting from it. Going to church or having those beliefs wasn’t something I wanted to do. And with everything going on in the world, it was hard to keep the belief that there’s Somebody. I stopped going to church in middle school. My parents let me be. They were like, “That’s your decision, we can’t force you to believe something you don’t believe or don’t want to believe.”

Do you believe there is a God?
Andrea: I don’t really know. Sometimes I do believe, sometimes I don’t. I’m really fluctuating.

Do you think there is a life after death?
Andrea: I feel like there is. Maybe that’s just me believing I won’t die and will stay there, but I feel like there is redemption or heaven or hell. Or maybe you’re just about in the world.

You mentioned hell – do you believe in sin and good and evil?
Andrea: People do sin. It’s not something you can argue because even if you’re not religious you see things and are like, “That’s kind of a sin.” There is wrong and right in the world, there is evil and good. So I do believe in sin and sinners – we’re all sinners.

How do you decide if something is wrong?
Andrea: It’s common sense. If you hit someone, that’s wrong. You shouldn’t be hitting someone for no reason. If you hit someone, but maybe they were trying to hit you, or there’s aggression toward you, then you’re in the right, it’s not wrong. But if there’s no aggression and you just do it out of nowhere, just because you want to, then it’s wrong because it’s not something you should have done. It all depends on the situation and what happened to lead up to that point to determine if you did something wrong. So like murder, it all depends if you murder someone out of passion or out of jealousy or you just had a slight moment of confusion or insanity, that’s where you can’t really tell whether something is right or wrong. You really need to think about it. It’s not just logical, I guess. It all depends on the situation.

Do you think killing human beings through abortion is justified?
Andrea: You’ve got to see both points. Yes, it’s going to be a new life but the woman is the one who’s going through it, getting all the symptoms. You don’t know, she might have postpartum depression. That’s one of my fears as a woman is getting pregnant and having a child, not because I don’t want it but because maybe if I get postpartum I might not be the mother that the child deserves. What if I start abusing it just because of my postpartum? Because of my fear, I don’t want to bring a child into this world. Maybe at one point I’d be like, “Oh my God, yes, I’m going to love it and I’m going to be there for it and everything,” but then once I have it and postpartum hits, it’s like, “I don’t want the child anymore” and I just detach myself from it and let someone else deal with it or start giving it a bad life. I wouldn’t want that. So I do think women should have the decision if they want to have their child or not.

What if we just waited to see which mothers experience postpartum depression and then only kill the babies born to those mothers, to prevent their suffering? What would be the difference, for the babies, between before birth and after birth?
Andrea: That is a little bit more difficult because some people might argue that it doesn’t have a heart or it’s not alive, technically, at the stage you’re allowed to get an abortion. You could just kill it to avoid a bad life, but I feel like it’s more difficult because it’s an actual human. It’s already there. You can see it, you can talk to it, interact with it. And who’s going to want to kill an actual baby or child if you can see it? That’s more controversial or a difficult topic. You can visualize it, instead of when it’s in the womb, you kind of don’t know what it looks like. So you don’t have an idea of what you’re killing.

Does that make it okay to kill, simply because you can’t see it?
Andrea: In my head I would be like, “Yeah, it’s okay because I can’t see it, I don’t know what it looks like.” Close my eyes, you know. But in other people’s eyes it’s like, “Yeah, but it’s still there. You know it’s there. You know what it’s going to become.” But I feel like for me, if I can’t see it, I can just turn a blind eye to it.

Are trans women actually women?
Andrea: I feel like to a degree they are women because that’s how they feel. They don’t feel masculinity. They would rather have the role of a woman and act as a woman. They genuinely feel like they aren’t men. But they don’t actually go through what a biologically born woman goes through with a period or getting pregnant, stuff like that. They don’t have a uterus in order to get pregnant. They are women, but only to a certain degree, as in biology. You feel like a woman, in your heart you believe you’re a woman, and you are a woman and I respect that but once you try to disrespect a biological woman like, “Oh, I’m a trans woman, I can get pregnant,” stuff like that, there’s a line when you go into biology.